Anti-immigration sentiment is rising in America?

[dmartmar]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">...this is the reason why Phd holders should not bother talking to some people. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you only knew that the ex-wife I ended up playing street smarts on for getting her deported WAS a PhD herself.

Same line of reasoning as yours.

Only goes to show that not all smart people are intelligent and not all intelligent people are smart.

[K_Solomon]

Reading this entire thread, it is clear to see the IQ level of the average person out there. That of all wazobia said, noone could come up with a constructive response. Instead sentiments, personal beliefs and experiences were used to distort his post. Lol... this is the reason why Phd holders should not bother talking to some people.

[dmartmar]

If they can get something for free, then it's simply good sense to take it. And if they have to lie or cheat to obtain more and more security for themselves and their children, then they will do it.

The truth is, most Mexicans I've known and I do mean an overwhelming majority, are fully deserving of this rising anti-immigration sentiment. Not only do they deserve it, they are the unwitting manufacturers of it.

Having gone through your same pain, albeit with an Argentinian female, I echo your sentiment. The only thing I can be proud of is that before my ex-wife got anything out of me, I was able to send her fraudulent butt back home empty handed: no GC.

What I basically wanted to add is that after situations such as ours (a Mexican in your case, Argentinian in mine), anti-immigration sentiments can only grow stronger and include immigrants from all countries as well.

[chardju]

My husband was in jail for dui and was suppose to be release 9/23/06. but never was because he return to africa in 2001. which i understand its a ins law but i am married to him and i just had his son 9/29/06. but then instead of keeping him in the same place they had sent him to jail in new mexico which we live in massachusetts where i can't even send him pictures of his son. and sent him there without an trial. i just don't understand why they sent him so far away especially from his family. and I am trying to send in papers for him because i don't want him deported at all which i shouldn't think he would especially being married to us citizen we were also together 3 years before we gotr married. and he had a lawyer a free one but when he was moved to new mexico they couldn't help him in anyway.

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[WilliamTheUnwise]

It is and it should be.

I was a typical liberal a decade ago and to this very day I still can't stand to hear some bigot shooting off at the mouth. I do believe there are a great many whose anti-immigrant sentiments are based on irrational prejudices and plain old stupidity, but having been involved with Mexican immigrants, not only in my marriage and family life but in the work place, for the past ten years, I am afraid I must draw certain conclusions which are as unavoidable as they are unappealing and unsettling.

My wife was illegal, as was as her entire family, apart from one or two, when I married her in 1996. I was aware from the very beginning that something was not quite right, but I was very much in love and eventually decided that I was happier when I was with my wife than when I was not. We had broken up many times over issues resulting from the fact that she never loved me and that I was painfully aware of it, even though I was only told the truth very recently, a matter of months before my wife finally obtained her citizenship.

To make a long story short, my wife and I will be getting a divorce, largely because we have become strangers to ona another. My wife's behavior changed dramatically once she no long needed me, and she even let it slip at one point, saying these very words to me, "Once I become a citizen, no-one can touch me."

She now goes out by herself, frequents bars, drinks, spends all of her time on the phone, has many male friends, and even had one special friend initial's tattooed on her back. She spends as little time with me as possible, and though she was never passionate sexually with me, it is now impossible for me to even kiss her because she draws away from me and hides her contempt for me less and less. She got what she needed from me and now she wants to move on. She is extremely cold and has absolutely no concern for the pain she has caused me. She gets this trait, I believe, from her father, who she says never once, as far as she can remember, even so much as hugged or kissed his children, or ever told them he loved them. Despite this my wife is virtually enslaved to him to this day. She is the obedient daughter,and takes care of all of his business for him as his P.O.A., since he is not supposed to be in the country. He was deported but returned a week later, and my wife was upset because I would not let him hide out with us upon his return. Recently, my wife's brother was arrested for selling narcotics and is serving his sentence in prison. My wife has always looked up to her brother and revered him to extremes, even though he boasts about hitting his wife and brags that he will strike any woman who talks back to him. This is the kind of man my wife respects. She was angry when I refused to write a letter pleading clemency to the officiating judge at her brother's trial. Just as I angered her for not wanting to assist in harboring (and therefore condoning the actions of) her father while he was shamelessly breaking the law and selfishly imposing himself on his own daughter's life and family. Apparently, my wife's father has also done prison time in Mexico for being an accomplice to the illegal sale of drugs. There is another male family member who is in prison for sexual congress with a very young girl.

But it isn't just my experiences with my wife and her family which colors my feeling towards Mexican immigrants, legal or illegal. I have known only one Mexican person who admitted that she felt it was wrong for Mexicans to speak nothing but Spanish when in the company of people who only spoke English. She was always well-mannered and if she was among a group of Mexicans in the workplace and there was so much as one non-Mexican, she would speak English, in deference to the fact that she was in the United States, and more importantly, as a highly unusual display of kindness and good manners.

The truth is simple and it is in evidence everywhere: Mexicans, by and large, have little or no desire to assimilate. Some flatly refuse to try and speak English; what is much worse than this, however, is that a great many Mexicans feel that they should teach their American-born children Spanish as well as English, and see absolutely no reason why English should take any priority whatsoever. My own wife, in a questionnaire filled out for a school here in Arizona which our two boys attend, complained that there should be Spanish-speaking teachers for the kids who only spoke Spanish, Spanish text-books, Spanish cirriculum, what have you. The reason she advocates this is because most Spanish speaking parents will take no trouble whatsoever to make sure their kids learn English adequately enough to have a good head start once they reach Kindergarten. Rather than place any kind of extra burden on the shoulders of Mexican parents, people like my wife feel that a burden ought to be firmly placed onto the shoulders of the taxpayers at large. Still other Mexicans have nothing but spite for Mexican parents whose children cannot speak Spanish. They feel this is a travesty. But a child, in America no less, who cannot speak English by the time he or she reaches school, is perfectly acceptable to them. Not only acceptable, they feel it should be the School's job to bring those children up to speed, to make up for the lazy and selfish apathy of their parents.

There is a great deal more to say, and I could literally go on for pages and pages. I have heard the United States slighted and slurred by my own wife. There are people who come here because they wish to make a better life for themselves, and yet they DO NOT wish to give anything back. Quite the contrary. I know a great many "wives" of Mexican men who earn upwards of 50K per year in construction and dry-wall who are proud to go on the dole. My wife's sister in law, whose husband was making excellent money hanging dry-wall, once gave my wife several large cans of Enfamil which she had gotten from some program or other. She was happy to unload some to my wife because she had too much. It's wrong, folks.

It's not really a racial thing, it's a cultural thing. A lot of these people grew up with nothing and have a sense of frugality which a lot of Americans wouldn't be able to hold a candle to. If they can get something for free, then it's simply good sense to take it. And if they have to lie or cheat to obtain more and more security for themselves and their children, then they will do it.

The truth is, most Mexicans I've known, and I do mean, the overwhelming majority, are fully deserving of this rising anti-immigration sentiment. Not only do they deserve it, they are the unwitting manufacturers of it.

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[IMPENETRABLE]

It's a complex question.

[rastafari]

Agreed I person. This site moderator is probably just a
d u m b a s s n e o - n a z i
anyway!
Let's see if he moderates my message out of his forum ;-)

[Engaged]

I agree with some of you when you say that immigrants should try to assimilate into american culture. I mean after all, This is america and we speak english and we live a certain way and we shouldnt have to change that. However, being from a family of immigrants I disagree with those of you who think that immigrants hold back the country and should all be sent back. there was a comment that said something about them not paying their taxes and so on, well let me tell you something, most illegals work with a fake social, under which they pay taxes however they do no tax return, so...the government keeps millions and millions of dollars from these illegals who never claim them. Also, immigrants are not taking jobs from americans. Americans who are unemployed are unemployed because they want to be. NO ONE IS GOING TO PAY YOU 10 DOLLARS THE HOUR FOR PICKING TOMATOES. and no american is willing to work for what they pay the poor people in the fields.

[Flyergy]

Illegal immigration is not simply wrong, but is also criminal--hence the term "illegal". Anti-immigration sentiment against all immigrants (legal and illegal) has increased because Americans are sick of people who are unwanted (read "illegals") coming across the border. These people we've seen on the news protesting legislation that would turn what is already a criminal offense into a felony, are merely highlighting the problem that has prompted such legislation to be considered in the first place. These demonstrators have, in effect, 'demonstrated' exactly which side of the border they belong on--and it's not the U.S side.

Plus I'm sorry but how can the average American not view with contempt, people stupid enough to flee to a country who does not want them, and who then expect to have rights once they get here. Illegals have no rights other than the right not to be gunned down in the streets, and they most certainly should never be allowed to obtain citizenship in a country in which their very first act upon arriving is the violation of one of our laws. Come here legally, or expect no mercy.

[lena kelly]

She is speake English and is learning American history and civics. She knows what it means the work Illegal and criminal.

You need some English classes as well, she speaks English would be correcto.

[lena kelly]

There was always anti immigrant sentiment, just remember"Irish no need to apply?", then it was italians etc.

[feruncg]

For all of you remember one very basic principle the only real North Americans are the Indians and the rest came along from other cultures and countries so USA soil is what it is thanks to the to immigrants and if you don't have North American Indian ruts within your family YOU COME FROM AN INMIGRANT FAMILY ! Next time before you open your big mouth make sure you remember that.

[wake1up]

A lot can be said about illegal Immigration, the fact is Illegal immigration is wrong, it undermind the intregrity of our Country, to allow it to continue is to suggest that our laws mean nothing, There is an argument that America need Illegal immigrants to do the work that American want do, that is a bunch of bull.Another argument is that Mexicans are only taking back what belongs to them. American belongs to Americans, and Mexico belongs to Mexicans. The time is coming when Americans of all races will unite, and do what ever is necessary to correct this injustice.
When an illegal alien have her babies here in the United States she and all of her Children should be deported. Citizen group are now planning to make this a reality. I think that any illegal alien should be arrested, her property confiscated and sold, the money used to fund his or her return to where ever they came from.If an illegal alien received state aid, it should be charged back to them. no longer should any legal person living in the U.S. pay for any illegal alien. Americans who truly want immigration reform must focus on ideas like these. Write you law makers demand a change in current policy. Get involved with "unite to fight", or Wake up America", or the minute man project. I am not against immigration, but I am against illegal immigration; which is an illegal invasion. If you are from a hispanic decent or from mexico or some other latin america country you might as well get it through your head. The United States is not your Country, and you would probably lose what you do have trying to take the U.S.( block busting is exposed)...