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  • #46
    As to what poster "rdgddfds" says,

    Commandments Monument Backers File Suit

    By MARK NIESSE, Associated Press Writer

    MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Supporters asked a federal court Monday to block the removal of a Ten Commandments monument from the Alabama Judicial Building while the judge who put the marker there said he's up against those who "are offended at looking at God's words."

    The lawsuit to block the monument's removal was filed in federal court in Mobile on behalf of a Christian radio talk show host and a pastor. It says a forced removal would violate the constitutional guarantee of freedom of religion. U.S. District Judge William Steele set a hearing for Wednesday. Chief Justice Roy Moore installed the monument in the building's rotunda two years ago, and was suspended by a state judicial ethics panel last week for disobeying a federal court order to remove the 5,300-pound granite marker. In a brief speech Monday, Moore told a cheering crowd he would fight to return to his elected position and said the case against him is based not on something he did wrong but because "I've kept my oath." The federal courts have held that the monument violates the Constitution's ban on government promotion of a religious doctrine.

    Patrick Mahoney, director of the Christian Defense Coalition, disputed that. "We see the First Amendment to protect religious liberty, not crush religious liberty," he told a crowd of more than 100 protesters. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said the lawsuit filed in Mobile is without merit. "Over and over again Moore's supporters have offered up outlandish legal arguments to defend the justice's blatant promotion of religion in the state's judicial building," said Lynn, whose group has sought to remove the monument.

    Minutes after the lawsuit was announced, police blocked off the front of the building with metal barricades. Building superintendent Graham George said they were erected to prevent protesters from leaning dangerously against the large windows and glass doors, where they have gathered for the last week. The monument is expected to be removed this week, though at least one company refused the job. Clark Memorial, a Birmingham company that built and moved the monument into the building, declined for business and personal reasons, vice president Charles Tourney said.


    • #47
      No matter what you guys may say I for one believe the Christian religion in America is not as important as Mohammedanism in Islamic countries.


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        • #49
          I think it's all evident by now that these threads are maintained by the same person who seems to have some issues with his own surpressed homosexuality.

          I don't understand what she or he is doing here when has such grievances with America. FYI, homosexuality will never be seen as normal in America! And yes, g a y s spread the deadly HIV/AIDS disease, so we don't want them here! Don't fret your frustration with your "not-worked-out-immigration-dreams" to this beautifull, GREAT country! It's embarrissingly obvious!


          • #50
            Alabama Ten Commandments Monument Removed

            By KYLE WINGFIELD
            Associated Press Writer

            MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) -- A 2 1/2-ton granite monument of the Ten Commandments that became a lightning rod in a legal storm over church and state was wheeled from the rotunda of the Alabama Supreme Court building Wednesday as protesters knelt, prayed and chanted, "Put it back!" Suspended Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, who installed the engraved set of tablets two years ago and risked his career to keep it there after a federal judge ordered it removed, said he would take his fight to the U.S. Supreme Court. "It is a sad day in our country when the moral foundation of our laws and the acknowledgment of God has to be hidden from public view to appease a federal judge," he said.

            To the dismay of scores of supporters who had held a weeklong vigil outside the front doors, the 5,280-pound monument was jacked up by a work crew and taken away to a back room with a heavy-duty hydraulic hand truck. Building officials did not immediately say where the monument would be stored or whether the public would ever be allowed to see it. U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson of Montgomery had ruled last year that the monument violates the Constitution's ban on government endorsement of a religious doctrine.

            "This is a tremendous victory for the rule of law and respect for religious diversity," said the Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State. "Perhaps Roy Moore will soon leave the bench and move into the pulpit, which he seems better suited for." As the monument left public view, a federal judge in Mobile dismissed a lawsuit that had been filed this week in a last-ditch effort to block its removal. The long-running dispute has galvanized evangelical Christians and conservatives in this Bible Belt state and around the country.

            Asked about President Bush's view of the controversy, White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said: "It is important that we respect our laws and our courts. In some instances the courts have ruled that the posting of Ten Commandments is OK. In other circumstances they have ruled that it's not OK. In either case, there is always opportunity for appeal of courts' decisions." Outside the Alabama courthouse, demonstrators lay face-down on the pavement, knelt in prayer on the steps, and recited the Pledge of Allegiance and the Lord's Prayer. Four men linked arms and chanted, "Put it back!" Hundreds took part in the vigil, and organizers said the protest would not end with the monument's removal.

            "They can move it out of view, but they can't move it out of our hearts," said Rick Moser, 47, of Woodstock, Ga. Protest organizer Patrick Mahoney, director of the Christian Defense Coalition, said it is critical for the supporters to remain after the monument's removal to "stand with Christ and against judicial tyranny." Moore was suspended by a judicial ethics panel for defying Thompson's order to move the monument. The federal judge had threatened to impose $5,000 daily fines on the state, and Moore's eight fellow justices on the Supreme Court overruled Moore and ordered the monument taken away. Alabama Attorney General Bill Pryor, a Republican, defended the court-ordered removal of the monument and is overseeing the prosecution of Moore on the ethics charge, which will be heard before the seven-member Court of the Judiciary. It has the power to discipline and remove judges.

            Moore contends the federal judge has no authority to tell Alabama's chief justice to remove the monument. Republican Gov. Bob Riley said in a statement that he hopes the monument's removal is "brief and temporary," with the U.S. Supreme Court ordering it moved back. He said he will file court papers supporting Moore. In neighboring Mississippi, Democratic Gov. Ronnie Musgrove and Republican gubernatorial candidate Haley Barbour said they want the monument if Alabama does not. Musgrove said he would display it in the Capitol for a week, and hoped other states would do the same. Barbour said he'd like to have it for the governor's mansion.



            • #51
              Here's another "event" here



              • #52
                I guess g a y marriage will be discussed for the next couple of years at least before actually deciding what to do...


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