ILW Stimulus Package - Contest

[a9b3h5]

1. Put an END to bailout. No more bailout. Let the company die.
2. Allow illegals to have a chance for permanent residence. Each illegal who wants to participate in the program shall pay $10K to enroll in the program. Upon receiving the money, he/she will get a temporary residency that will allow to work but cannot claim unemployment or any other benefits. They will be allowed to stay in the USA and travel abroad; however, their priority will be based on their country of origin and the date they paid $10K (A separate category will be established for this and only 1MM permanent visas granted under this program). Think about it if you have 30MM illegals and of which 15MM opt for this program, you will now have $ 150,000,000,000.00, yes 150 trillion that Government can pump back into the economy and here we go on a great economic start.
3. Provide tax breaks to corporations that are not outsourcing. Provide incentives for keeping jobs within USA.
4. Impose high tariff on goods imported in the country. This will start balancing trade deficit.
5. Eliminate personal income tax for next 5-years (dependent on #2), keep corporate and sales tax. After 5-year period, the personal income tax shall be 10% flat with no deduction and loopholes.
6. Eliminate H1B visa program.
7. Put a cap on medical malpractice awards. This will drive the medical cost down and make insurance more affordable.
8. Put a temporary halt of 1-year on foreclosures but allow banks to collect interest.
9. Remove our bases from all over the world except keep the presence close to Muslim states that are threat.
10. Stop providing aid to other countries. No more spending outside USA.
11. Eliminate all Government welfare programs. Make people accountable for their own actions. No more baby sitting or freebies.
12. Kill VAWA and IMBRA
13. Legalize usage of drugs. Charge 40% tax on it. Government is losing huge revenue on this and drug lords are making huge money. Put controls on it so it is not abused.
14. Legalize prostitution. It is over a billion dollar industry. Charge some where from 20% - 40% tax.
15. Eliminate Social Security. Eliminate Social Security Tax.
16. Eliminate varying state laws and adapt universal state law. This way lawyers are not ripping their clients. It is more simplified and innocent citizens are not jailed because what was legal in one state could be illegal in other.
17. Start manufacturing products in prison and make prisoner work. Pay them $1/hour.

[SonofMichael]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by a9b3h5:
12. Kill VAWA and IMBRA </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


This is the number one priority. The economy tanked right after Bush signed IMBRA.

REPEAL IMBRA !!!

[SonofMichael]

IMBRA

[SonofMichael]

I agree with legalizing drugs. It would not increase crime. Lower costs drugs would reduce crime. Corporations should not be taxed at all. Its double taxation for shareholders.

Government should be limited to protecting people's fundamentals right to liberty and that is all. It doesnt even seem capable of doing that.

[a9b3h5]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
There would need to be a powerful motivator to compel 15m people to cough up 10k a piece. Throw in mandatory e-verify to include existing workers. Have e-verify add photo id verification. The pictures could be uploaded by each state's DMV. This would eliminate any issues with minor errors in names or misspellings. No need to run back forth to the SS offices.


I disagree with drug use being legalized. Even if you tax it. You would be taxing stolen money for the most part. Druggies are not productive nor a good basis for tax revenue.

The tax code should include the normal corp deductions. Don't fall for the dem chatter that its welfare. It provides incentives for growth and expansion. If the business spends it a job is created. If the government takes it. They will fund more abortions. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure we can add elements that will motivate them. Like, passing a legislation that will not give illegals any constitutional rights, no court proceedings only swift and direct deportation. Any person/corporation hires an illegal will be fined $1MM or 5-year jail term.

[SonofMichael]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by a9b3h5:Sure we can add elements that will motivate them. Like, passing a legislation that will not give illegals any constitutional rights, no court proceedings only swift and direct deportation. Any person/corporation hires an illegal will be fined $1MM or 5-year jail term. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unless they are hot young females of course

[4now]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Someone12:
We keep hearing about tax relief...well, why not bring back deductions for interest paid on credit cards and car loans????? At the stroke of a pen, we could have those deductions, and those would help most of the USA. When Congress decided to end those deductions, people started taking out home equity loans to pay for cars, not just college, and soon, that's what encouraged so many people to play around in real estate, and not pay attention to their spending habits. Bring back those deductions...that would help the middle class.
Second, end any advantages that so-called American companies might have by sending boxes of raw material overseas to be put together (or manufactured from scratch) by Chinese prisoners (WalMart clothing) or children (most everything else)...if there is an American brand name on the product, it needs to be made in AMERICA, not effing China. Any object with an American brand name that was made overseas should be tariffed up the wazoo.


Restore American manufacturing jobs in all industries.
End outsourcing.
End H1Bs until the unemployment rate returns to around 4%. End ALL employment-based immigrant visas in the skilled worker category until the unemployment rate goes back to around 4%. We don't need to add to our problems by importing cheap labor.
Those are my ideas (oh yes, while we're at it, deport all illegal aliens, since they are still draining our resources, crowding our schools and stealing healthcare from Americans. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


These are the key elements that directly are teh reason that no amount of money in a stimulus will solve the problems unless the manufacturing jobs are restored in usa. This is the first step in effectively insuring that usa jobs will not be taken.

Factories have been hemorrhaging jobs for years; manufacturing employment is now 12.9 million, down from 17.2 million at the end of 2000.

The fleecing of america has been going on since as early as 1980's and including reagonomics. Some of the practices that started included the "new trend" of firing the employee and rehiring the same employee back as a contractor. The employment taxes now became a burden of the contractor. You let it happen folks. Then next came the rise of the temporary agencies who quickly got contracts with employers to provide them with workers at a price on a temporary basis for a determined amount of time and pay. No longer could a person walk in and apply for a job at the actual establishment. Once the worker was temped out, they possibly could become permanent at a low pay scale of course. then the H-1/h2 programs were expanded ,and now they are trying to expand it more. Since when did usa need to import foreign help to work in restaurants


TPS is another area that has to be looked at. When the tempoary status is no longer needed, these people need to return to their homeland . It was temporary.. follow thru.

Qvisa is out of control which helps contribute to illegal immigration because none of these people ever return because they have soc sec numbers. Then the amnesty came and opened the flood gates for illegal labor to not only take jobs in the ag, but expand their horizons to restaurants and construction jobs. Another amnesty came in 2001, more illegals came and are still coming in hopes of another amnesty. 20 million illegals getting amnesty now would finish the economy.
Of course the trade agreements really was the giant suc.king sound that Ross Perot spoke about.

corporations picked up lock stock and barrel and moved to be based out of places like scotland, ireland,(who have no coporate tax) and others chose the cheap labor pool of china india and a host of more.

Education in the usa starting taking the downturn.... funding became based on test scores instead of making sure students were properly educated and could compete in the real world and markets. Mercantilsim is not preached in usa. (big mistake) so now usa just passes students to the next grade and they graduate and many cannot even read. Just for the money...

Feel free to add to the causes of job loss. Once you have all the causes and conditions that changed the playing field, you can then make a solution to what needs to be done and what needs to be stopped to get the economy right again.

One more thing.. We need to stop sending all that money to israel daily and invest that money into our own . 2nd, look at how israel has managed to prudently invest what was given to them and follow that lead. The result is a prosperous, educated , highly technical and advanced country.


Now one of the things that has to happen is for the government help the employer to emply legal workers. Yes things like rewarding the employer for not laying off an employee by lowering his payroll taxes or temporary suspending them if he does not lay off workers. Stop making up stupidness of saying the worker doesnt have to pay soc sec. tax. If you want a job supplied, them help the people who supply jobs.

[4now]

<span class="ev_code_RED">Now , a better choice for donating the money would be start a private fund of donations to help businesses start manufacturing companies or research companies that will employ american workers. </span>


Question posed by reader:

"If I wanted to donate money to pay down the deficit, how would I go about it? To whom would I send it and how could I be assured the money would be used for that purpose? "
— Norma R., Warrenton, Va.


<span class="ev_code_RED">ANSWER</span>
You can’t do anything to shrink the deficit — the difference between what Congress spends every year and what the Treasury collects in taxes each year.

You can, however, help your Uncle Sam pay down the $10 trillion national debt, which is the accumulation of all the deficits the government runs every year.

You can send them cash. Or you can buy one of their Treasury securities, give it back to them, and let thme know they don’t need to pay you back. Or you can leave them money in your will.

You can also send the Treasury “real and personal property, made only on the condition that the property be sold and the proceeds used to reduce debt held by the public,” according to the Treasury’s Web site. So if you’re cleaning old junk out of the attic and can’t be bothered with selling it on Craigslist, consider sending it along to your Uncle Sam.

Or they’ll take a check. Make it out to the Bureau of the Public Debt, and in the memo section, let them know it’s a “Gift to reduce the Debt Held by the Public.” Send it to:

Attn Dept G
Bureau Of the Public Debt
P. O. Box 2188
Parkersburg, WV 26106-2188

You can be pretty sure it’ll be used according to your wishes. While Congress can be pretty careless with our tax dollars, the Treasury keeps very good track of where it all goes. (They’re actually pretty fussy about accounting; everything is tracked to the last penny.)

Last year, for example, charitably minded folks like you donated $2,189,358.89 in gifts specifically for the purpose of paying down the national debt. (That's $2.2 million.) That reduced the overall debt by about 0.00002060321 percent.

But hey, every little bit helps.


<span class="ev_code_RED">Real and personal property eh... They already take that by illegal seizure in most cases</span>

[SonofMichael]

Bush was so bad it was funny.

Obama is so bad it is scary.

[MakeItRight!]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
Add to that; instead of jail time would become indentured concubines. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ooh!!! I wanna be the probation officer!!

[4now]

<span class="ev_code_RED">Good Job Senators.. Keep up the good work. Now it is up to the rest of us to keep the pressure on to get it accomplished! You have a voice, use it.</span>



Bill seeks limits on hiring foreign bank workers
By RITA BEAMISH and FRANK BASS, AP

-Two senators on Wednesday proposed requiring bailed-out banks to hire only Americans for one year, after an investigation by The Associated Press showed that banks receiving the most federal aid had requested visas for thousands of foreign workers even as they laid off employees amid the economic collapse.
The legislation by Sens. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, would apply to more than 200 banks that have accepted the government's aid. They would be barred from hiring foreigners who hold special visas that are reserved for certain skilled and advanced-degree jobs. Both senators are longtime critics of abuses they see in the visa program.

"It is obscene and vulgar for these huge banks getting taxpayer bailouts to use the bailouts to throw American workers on the street and bring in foreign workers," Sanders said.
The proposal was certain to inflame all sides of an already contentious issue that has attracted new passion amid soaring U.S. unemployment rates. An immigration lawyers group earlier this week warned of renewed criticism of the H1-B visa program due to the country's lousy economic conditions and rallied its members in an e-mail to be prepared to "set the record straight!"

The president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association, Charles Kuck, whose members represent employers and foreign nationals, said the Senate proposal would hinder any economic recovery.
"You're telling banks, we want you to be successful, we'll loan you money to stay in business but we're not going to allow you to hire people to make that happen if they happen to be foreign nationals," Kuck told the AP. "Is this not the ultimate in protectionism?"

Sanders said banks accepting U.S. government bailout money should first attempt to hire the many laid-off American banking workers, although other industries may need the visa program for shortages in specific skilled positions.
Prospects for the legislation's passage were not immediately clear. The proposal was being filed as an amendment to the stimulus bill under consideration in the Senate as part of President Barack Obama's plan to reinvigorate the economy.

Sanders said the legislation was proposed in response to an AP investigation showing that the dozen banks now receiving the biggest rescue packages, totaling more than $150 billion, requested visas for more than 21,800 foreign workers over the past six years for high-paying jobs.
Even as the economic collapse worsened last year — with huge numbers of U.S. bank employees laid off — the numbers of visas sought by the dozen banks in AP's analysis increased by nearly one-third, from 3,258 in the 2007 budget year to 4,163 in fiscal 2008.

The AP reviewed visa applications the banks filed with the Labor Department under the H-1B visa program, which allows temporary employment of foreign workers in specialized-skill and advanced-degree positions. Such visas are most often associated with high-tech workers.
It is unclear how many foreign workers the banks hired; the government does not release those details. The government limits to 85,000 the H-1B visas each year among all U.S. employers.

The banks also hire uncounted foreign workers through contract companies and those visa numbers don't show up in the banks' applications to the government.