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    That's right. Let me see which governor, when asked about illegal immigrants, said they will immediately order massive deportations, internment camps, round ups, and/or door-to-door raids???
    Bustamante? No.
    Huffington? No.
    Arnold? No.
    Camejo? No.
    McClintock? Close, but no.

    Now lets see who was in favor of helping illegal immigrants, and who believed that are an important part of society

    Bustamante? Yes.
    Huffington? Yes.
    Camejo? Passionate Yes.
    Arnold? No on licenses, yes on illegal immigrant children healthcare.
    McClintock? No.

    McClintock was the only one spewing the same tired old illegal immigrant rhetoric about "rewarding" them. Yet, much like you acelaw, he pointed out his opinion and an issue. Super, but wait don't stop there?? What is he going to do about them then?? If he is against licenses, healthcare, and such, how is he going to deal with them then??

    In any case, I heard much more SUPPORT for illegal immigrants than anything..............could it be that I was right!!??

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    That's right. Let me see which governor, when asked about illegal immigrants, said they will immediately order massive deportations, internment camps, round ups, and/or door-to-door raids???
    Bustamante? No.
    Huffington? No.
    Arnold? No.
    Camejo? No.
    McClintock? Close, but no.

    Now lets see who was in favor of helping illegal immigrants, and who believed that are an important part of society

    Bustamante? Yes.
    Huffington? Yes.
    Camejo? Passionate Yes.
    Arnold? No on licenses, yes on illegal immigrant children healthcare.
    McClintock? No.

    McClintock was the only one spewing the same tired old illegal immigrant rhetoric about "rewarding" them. Yet, much like you acelaw, he pointed out his opinion and an issue. Super, but wait don't stop there?? What is he going to do about them then?? If he is against licenses, healthcare, and such, how is he going to deal with them then??

    In any case, I heard much more SUPPORT for illegal immigrants than anything..............could it be that I was right!!??

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    • #3
      I truely salute you SKS.

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      • #4
        I watched the debate last night and SKS you are absolutely right!!!!!

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        • #5
          SHOOTS I MISSED IT... I CANT BELIEVE IT..BUT IM GLAD SOME THINGS ARE TURNING AROUND... IMMIGRANTS DO NEED SUPPORT...THEY PROBABLY WORK HARDER THAN ANY OF THE LAZY USC WHO LIVE OFF OTHER PEOPLES TAXES DONT YOU THINK. ITS ONLY FAIR THAT THEY GET THE APPRICIATION THEY DESERVE.

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          • #6
            Thanks for the summary, SKS. I had to work so I missed it. Nice to know that most of the potential governers are not against "illegal" immigrants. They are an important part of this state, not only economically, but culturally and socially as well.

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            • #7
              McClintock has stated he will try to bring back Prop. 187. That is the only thing I can find about dealing with those already here. I have emailed him (or his office) so I'll see what they say.

              In any case, it is a moot point for two reasons.
              1. McClintock isn't even predicted to win.

              if he does

              2. Denying services to illegal immigrants may affect those living here, but that is only going to make things worse; And no matter what happens, they will still stay............

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              • #8
                This is what's bothering us. even you guatemalean! you've been here most of your life as I saw in some of your other posts and yet you will turn around , stabbing in the back and call us l***y! Thats what we're tired of, if you're so in touch with your raza then go where you'll be happy!

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                • #9
                  Dream on SKS,have been a little busy with illegal ride and other matters in congress right now, but my other self has been posting fine for me thank you to the "other" acelaw.

                  VICTORY MILESTONE-------Number of co-sponsors
                  of CLEAR Act hits 100! H.R. 2671
                  ======================================================

                  Rep. Norwood's office (R-GA) just notified us of the great news that
                  they had signed up No. 99 and No. 100 on H.R. 2671, Clear Law Enforcement
                  for Criminal Alien Removal Act of 2003 (the CLEAR Act of 2003).

                  This is the bill that would bankroll and in many ways assist any local
                  law enforcement agency that want to end illegal immigration in its
                  community. It essentially mandates the federal government to pick up every
                  illegal alien apprehended by local authorities, and it pays local
                  police and sheriff's departments for detaining the illegal aliens. This
                  legislation would not only stop the illegal population in the U.S. from
                  growing above its present estimated 10-million level but also begin slowly
                  and steadily reducing the illegal population.

                  This bill was just introduced this summer and has caught on like
                  wildfire. The pro-illegal-alien lobby is scared to death and going through
                  the country persuading many local governments that already encourage
                  illegal immigration to pass ordinances denouncing this bill.

                  Nothing currently proposed would more frighten illegal aliens into
                  buying a ticket back home than passage of the CLEAR Act.

                  You all have been burning up the fax lines in pushing more and more
                  Members to sign onto this bi-partisan bill.

                  The very last signers may not yet be on the official list, but here is
                  the list of co-sponsors:

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                  • #10
                    If you think politicians say what they'll do later, you must be dreamin'. Just looking at these posts it shows the bait is obviously working

                    Remember "Read my lips!" ?

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                    • #11
                      California candidates should face the big issue
                      By Phyllis Schlafly

                      Copley News Service

                      The California recall will probably dominate national news until the Oct. 7

                      election, but the dog that hasn't barked yet is how the candidates are going to deal with the big problem they are pretending not to notice. That is the cost imposed by illegal aliens on the state budget, hospitals, schools and prisons.

                      The massive numbers are changing the demographics and the economy in profound ways. Over the last decade, 1 million people have illegally entered California from Mexico, while 2 million Americans have fled California to nearby Western states in search of lower taxes, less regulation of business, better schools, less crowded highways and safer communities.

                      California's problem was caused by the federal government's failure to

                      enforce our immigration laws plus the pandering to the illegals by California Gov.

                      Gray Davis and his administration. Californians tried to protect themselves from this federal default in 1994, when nearly 60 percent of the voters passed Proposition 187 to deny most state-funded services to illegal aliens.

                      A single federal judge appointed by President Carter overturned the vote of the people, sitting on the case until Davis became governor, who then kept Prop. 187 permanently inoperative by refusing to appeal this judicial outrage.

                      Despite a decade-long smear campaign by the people who profit from open borders, surveys show that Prop. 187 would easily pass again if it were re-submitted to the voters.

                      Two authors have just presented a wealth of documentation about the high price Californians are paying for accepting this flood of low-cost labor from south of the border. A groundbreaking investigation by Fred ****ey of the Los Angeles Times shows how illegal aliens are "creating a Third World chaos in the California economy," and the new book "Mexifornia" by Hoover Institution fellow and California State University Fresno professor Victor Davis Hanson sets forth the disastrous economic and moral results of our open-borders policies.

                      The Los Angeles Times reports that 950,000 illegals live in the five counties comprising the greater Los Angeles area. Their economic activity is mostly underground, which means the employers pay low cash wages, no overtime, no benefits and no taxes.

                      Businessmen who don't go along with this under-the-table racket are at a 20 percent disadvantage with their competitors. Los Angeles talk-radio host Terry Anderson, an African-American, says the same auto repair jobs that blacks used to hold at $25 an hour are now worked by illegals at $8.

                      John Chiang of the State Board of Equalization, California's tax oversight agency, estimates that the state loses $7 billion a year in unpaid taxes because of the underground sector. The U.S. Census Bureau reports that 30.6 percent of Hispanics receive means-tested government benefits compared to 9 percent of whites. Tax revenues simply can't keep pace with the rising demand for government services.

                      Of course, the illegal aliens don't have health insurance, so when hospitals, which are forbidden to ask about citizenship, accept them as patients, the costs are loaded onto the backs of local taxpayers and patients who do pay their bills. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said the cost of medical care provided to illegal aliens in California last year was $980 million.

                      California schools are an academic and financial disaster. Even though California spends $2.2 billion to educate children who are illegally in this country, nearly half of Hispanic adults have not graduated from high school.

                      "Mexifornia" describes how a de facto alliance of the "corporate/libertarian right" and the "multicultural left" has unwittingly reduced the standard of living for workers of all races and spawned a virulent and separatist race industry. The book shows that the illegal Mexicans refrain from assimilating like Italian, Jewish and Polish immigrants of earlier times, but instead congregate in impoverished communities where only Spanish is spoken.

                      This cheap-labor separatism creates a two-tiered economic and social structure. The illegals have no hope of rising into the middle class and become increasingly resentful of the system in which they remain forever doing menial jobs to maintain Americans in a lifestyle that, by Mexican standards, appears to be one of ostentatious luxury.

                      Almost 25 percent of all inmates in California prisons are from Mexico.

                      Hanson describes the young illegal aliens who vandalize, steal and deal drugs, as having this anti-U.S. attitude: "It's our land anyway, not yours."

                      Hanson makes the moral argument that current policies have undermined our common culture and harmed the very people the politicians claim to help. He calls for "sweeping restrictions on immigration," an end to the "separatist

                      ideology" and a "stronger mandate for assimilation" emphasizing American culture and language.

                      Phyllis Schlafly is a lawyer, conservative political analyst and the author of "Feminist Fantasies." She can be contacted by e-mail at phyllis@eagleforum.org.

                      © Copley News Service

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                      • #12
                        acelaw, what does that have to do with my thread??

                        The title of your good-for-nothing article says it all...................... They SHOULD face the big issue.

                        But will they.......

                        All I did was ask you a simple question, I still don't know if you saw the debate or not?? Why cut and paste an article that doesn't mean anything??

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