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    Working for the Gov't is actually less risky than working at any place more accessible for illegals. No one would even suspect that you don't have a work permit, etc. And of course, got to know the right people, prove that you're the best for the position, and have luck, too. When it came out that I don't have the permit, they offered me help instead of fireing me.

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    How did you work for the Gov's without a work permit ?????????????????????/
    that's a biggggggg risk

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    Sorry about being straight here but you probably did not even read the first postings on this topic. We're not talking about latin Americans working at the air ports here with false documents, flipping burgers or something. Me (and presumably WorkerTx) came here legally and have good jobs (I work for the Gov't), it's just that we don't have work permits and have overstayed visas. I don't want to say that I am better or something, but there are many illegals here who are educated and are smart enough to get nice jobs without fake papers or lying. Of course, here one would say: 'go back home then!' But what if it is dirt poor at home and unemployment ***** bad? Would one rather risk here and take a chance, and see what happens?? I am glad that I stayed after my visa expired, my patience has paid off now, got my papers filed, etc.

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    Federal authorities charged 25 O'Hare and Midway workers and de-activated the access badges of more than 500 others Tuesday as part of Operation Tarmac--a national crackdown on people who gained airport security clearance with fake IDs.

    The 25 were charged with fraudulently obtaining badges allowing them into restricted areas of the two airports. They include ramp agents, truck drivers, cleaning crew employees, food service workers, a baggage handler and an airline cabin service attendant. None is a city employee.

    6 of the 25 were charged with lying about criminal convictions -- 4 for drug-related offenses, 1 for burglary and 1 for robbery -- that would have barred them under federal regulations from holding such airport jobs.

    16 were charged with using a fake Social Security number. 3 others were charged with illegally re-entering the country after being deported.

    In addition to the arrests in Chicago, the access badges of 553 workers at O'Hare and Midway have been de-activated as the INS and FBI investigate potential fraud violations.

    U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald said there is no evidence any of those charged had terrorist ties.

    "What we are telling you is we can't have an airport -- 2 of the busiest airports in the world-- sitting in our city, and have literally hundreds of people in the airport we don't know who they are and what they're up to and then just throw our hands up," he said.

    "If you're lying about who you are and taking on someone else's identification, particularly if you have a prior conviction, and getting access to a secure area, that's a crime in itself."

    Ignacio Guerrero, 37, was among those busted for using an allegedly fake Social Security number. He still was imprisoned late Tuesday, and his family feared he would be deported. "He bought it from people that sell them, but he didn't know they weren't licensed," said his 11-year-old son, translating for his mother.

    The national investigation began after the Sept. 11 attacks. More than 800 workers at airports in more than eight major U.S. cities have been arrested and charged with gaining security clearance in bogus ways.

    Chicago -- which owns and operates O'Hare and Midway -- is responsible for conducting criminal background checks on people who work for the city, airlines and contractors at the airfields.

    The checks, which involve fingerprinting, were required for certain workers at O'Hare, Midway and other major airports after December 2000. After the terrorist attacks, all airport employees who work in secure zones had to undergo the checks, which only now are wrapping up. Recently, a federal directive ordered that workers not in secure areas--but who have limited access beyond passenger checkpoints--also undergo fingerprint reviews.

    City officials were defensive about the situation Tuesday, saying they had no way to know the workers were displaying bogus ID and Social Security numbers. The background checks don't work that way, they said.

    In the last several weeks, however, the city has bought and begun using computer equipment from Intelli-Check Inc. that can verify a driver's license or passport as valid, First Deputy Chicago Aviation Commissioner John Harris said.

    Tuesday's announcement comes eights months after a Chicago Sun-Times report that found 167 O'Hare and Midway workers had been red-flagged and had their badges stripped, at least temporarily, pending an explanation of their criminal histories.

    As of Tuesday, 94 workers were in the same predicament, Harris said.

    The Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights and the Office of the Mexican Consul General of Chicago blasted Tuesday's actions, saying most of those charged are Hispanic.

    "This operation only further criminalizes immigrants who work hard and pay taxes, and are only trying to make a living and support themselves and their families," the coalition said.

    The federal probe "looks more like politics than really improving the security of the two airports," Mexican Consulate spokesman Cesar Romero said.

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    He knows how gullible you Americans are, there is not one thread of truth to his story. Sorry, I guess you have to be British to know that. Cheers!

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    Well, some aliens are afraid to work without proper work authorization, but some others are not.

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    Take A Look Here:

    http://discuss.ilw.com/eve/forums?q=...7616081741&p=1

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    That's the point, if you fell out of status you do not have anymore authorization to work, and you should not work. We all know what alien's justifications are, the problem is they just don't hold up...

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    Thanks for all the info. Also, I have NO fake docs as all mine are LEGAL docs and I came here LEGALLY as well. Just fell out of status.

    Once again, thanks all.

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    Three years ago I reported to the INS an acquaintance of mine who was illegally in the U.S. while working illegally for a company. He submitted fake SSN and Drivers License and the company accepted him for employment. The INS conducted an investigation and after a couple of months he was issued a "Notice To Appear" before the Immigration Court to attend deportation proceedings, as he was charged with deportability and providing false documentation to gain employment. This person was able to figure out that it was me who reported him to the INS and he took revenge by stalking me a couple of times and in one particular occasion hitting me. I suffered a nosebleed and reported the incident to the police. The police charged my alien friend with felony battery - the court finally sentenced him to 3 months in county jail -- with all these events happening while the deportation proceedings were under way. Finally the INS deported him back to his home country AFTER he served 3-months for the battery charge. Point is: if some aliens sticks to laws, like the case has been with me, why some others should be allowed to get away with illegal things - no, they should suffer the consequences of their actions!

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    You say that your wife does NOT work, and you still submitted an Affidavit of Support:
    1.Did you have any co-sponsor (i.e from her family) or did you file only YOUR income (that means that you should have enclosed your tax returns for the last 3 tax years + present employment evidence)
    2.Did you meet the 125% of the poverty guidelines by yourself?
    3.Did you receive a receipt notice from INS? If yes, that means that they have accepted your application and you do not have anything to worry about for now.

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    USE OF FALSE DOCUMENTS / FALSE STATEMENTS ON THE EMPLOYMENT ELIGIBILITY VERIFICATION FORM I-9 FORM NOT A CRIME INVOLVING MORAL TURPITUDE

    The false use of false documents and knowingly signing a Form I-9 containing false information is not "false testimony" under section 101(f)(6) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. Furthermore, such actions are not representations under section 212(a)(6)(c)(i) of the INA.

    Section 101(f)(b) of the INA sets forth that a finding of "good moral character" is precluded for "one who has given false testimony for the purpose of obtaining any benefits under this chapter". The Supreme Court has held that section 101(f)(6) of INA does not impose a materiality requirement for false testimony, but noted that such testimony is limited to oral statements made under oath...with the subjective intent of obtaining immigration benefits.

    If false statements are given orally and under oath, they have been held to constitute false testimony within the meaning of the section 101(f)(6) of the INA. But in the case we are discussing the person would not have been giving false testimony for the purpose of obtaining any immigration benefits. In fact, even convictions for falsely representing oneself as citizen of the U.S. have been found not to involve moral turpitude.

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    http://discuss.ilw.com/eve/forums?a=...651#5926010651

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    When you are married to an USC it doesn't matter if you've worked illegally for a certain employer. Many people lie on their applications and especially when they complete the I-9 Form requiring a valid SSN, a Drivers' Licence Number as well an A# (green card.) Other people say they are outright American Citizens. These illegal aliens buy a set of these three types of documents -- a fake green card, a fake SSN and a fake Drivers License (or a fraudelent American birth certificate via which they get an SSN) and fraudulently fill out the spaces of the form I-9 requiring these numbers. It is a crime to do this, but many employers do not bother to report their workers to INS even if they decide to terminate their illegally employed illegal alien employees.

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    I almost forgot, When you go to pick up EAD make sure there will not be any deportation against you. otherwise you will be detained, instead of issuing EAD.(Zero tolerance).


    How can she make sure of that Mohan ????

    THANK OU

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