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  • #16
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by federale86:
    See 8 USC 1325(a) and 18 USC 1001 which cover the most common manner of entry of illegals, entry without inspection and false statements at entry. Again, a crime was committed, but whether or not the United States Attorney's Office decided to prosecute, a crime was still committed. And the previous post covers the citiations requested for overstays. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
    Again, I USC 1325(a) and 18 USC 1001 are not crminal offsnes. Neither is 26 USC 6665 or 6666. They are administrative, read CIVIL offenses.

    I now nominate you for the Bonehead Award, soon followed by the Darwin Award
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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    • #17
      I think federale86 has an agenda.
      "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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      • #18
        Have you tried reading the respective parts of Title 18 and Title 8? You will find they are criminal. I have testified in Federal District Court in such cases, I have obtained arrest warrants for such cases, I have testified to federal Grand Juries in such cases. Facts, indeed, are stubborn things. You should try some oneday.

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        • #19
          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by federale86:
          Have you tried reading the respective parts of Title 18 and Title 8? You will find they are criminal. I have testified in Federal District Court in such cases, I have obtained arrest warrants for such cases, I have testified to federal Grand Juries in such cases. Facts, indeed, are stubborn things. You should try some oneday. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

          I think everyone on this thread has read those respective parts of the sections and gave you an answer, that is why you keep parroting the same agenda blindly and obstinately attached to some opinion and intolerant toward others. By the way you are throwing your experience as a witness to gain credibility is not unnoticed and it is a fallacy of Argumentum Ad Verecundiam ... Yes, facts are stubborn things with the exception that YOU DON'T HAVE THEM. Maybe you should try to build this 8 yr old case back up again collecting the facts first.
          SEMPER VIPER / Army Strong!

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          • #20
            Just because you have testified federale86, it doesn't mean you were right. Did you win your arguments in court?
            "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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            • #21
              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brit4064:
              Just because you have testified federale86, it doesn't mean you were right. Did you win your arguments in court? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

              A federal agent spouting intolerance and bad mouthing the President Elect on the internet, how professional and credible is that? Of course he "won" all his arguments... The right question is, has he ever obtained an arrest warrant, has he ever testified to federal grand jury, has he ever testified in Federal District Court IN THIS CASE? So far he seems to fail to apply logic to the case in this thread, which never even went to a district court? Our agent does NOT know the law.
              SEMPER VIPER / Army Strong!

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              • #22
                Bushmaster: It is an adminstrative action, I will go home and look up my notes, my case somehow was similar I will try to get an answer asap if you still needed. And please do not pay attention to federale, what a waste of time.

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                • #23
                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bsanchez:
                  Bushmaster: It is an adminstrative action, I will go home and look up my notes, my case somehow was similar I will try to get an answer asap if you still needed. And please do not pay attention to federale, what a waste of time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  I appreciate it bsanchez. I have found some info of course but I can always use whatever you may have for my files. As of this morning, I am granted clearance on an interim basis, after this point it should not be a big deal.
                  SEMPER VIPER / Army Strong!

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                  • #24
                    Bushmaster,

                    You were in violation of administrative violations only, not cirminal. There is no discussing that other than your source is not familiar with immigration law.

                    I know you better divulge anything regarding any infraction, (have my 3rd TS by the way) because it can only come around to bit you in the tailfin. Good luck, Fly Fight and Win!

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                    • #25
                      Also you can read, INA 8 U.S.C. § 1182, and INA § 212. Your case never went to court, nor were you served a Notice to Appear?

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                      • #26
                        Of course, arrested, indicted, pled, convicted, sentenced. Facts are hard things, like breaking rocks in prison. I doubt if any of those who supposedly countered my facts have acutally any experience in both the criminal and administrative aspects of immigration law.

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                        • #27
                          And that doesn't count the number of times that USAO declined because they were too busy, etc. Nor does it include the hundreds of times they went through deportation/exclusion/expited removal/removal proceedings. These facts led to aliens being both convicted of crimes and removed.

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                          • #28
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by federale86:
                            Of course, arrested, indicted, pled, convicted, sentenced. Facts are hard things, like breaking rocks in prison. I doubt if any of those who supposedly countered my facts have acutally any experience in both the criminal and administrative aspects of immigration law. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            The only hard thing here is your thick head that refuses to listen. The case mentioned (my case in the OP) you conveniently and continuously dismiss due to your lack of knowledge in the applicable law never had an indictment, never had a plea, not a conviction nor a sentence. Wake up from trolling and smell the coffee. Since you can't argue these facts you keep yapping your mouth about irrelevant criminal alienage...
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> And that doesn't count the number of times that USAO declined because they were too busy, etc. Nor does it include the hundreds of times they went through deportation/exclusion/expited removal/removal proceedings. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            I'd love to see you back that nonsense up. I only dealt with INS DA, and they didn't seem very busy to me. Though your accusal towards a branch of a Republican government needs some backing up. Next, learn a thing or two about relief from removal proceedings, and most important, as a "federal" officer, learn how to spell.
                            SEMPER VIPER / Army Strong!

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                            • #29
                              I think he sees all illegals as criminals Bushmaster
                              "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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                              • #30
                                Well, you broke the law and luckily avoided prosecution. It is an embarrassment that people like you are allowed into the Armed Forces.

                                And, by the way, all illegals are criminals. Just there are so many of you that the criminal justice system cannot prosecute you all, so we have the deportation system for you.

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