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  • #16
    It's not about envy of others necessarily. I think many of the illegals have no choice in terms of either:

    a) stay in Mexico and starve to death or
    b) cross into the USA to find work to survive.

    Faced with that scenario, which would you do? That's the moral issue.
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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    • #17
      Mexicans do not have the choice of coming to America or starving in Mexico. That is a well establish lie. Mexico's percapita income is $10K, many times that of most of the third world. Research has shown that Mexicans who come to the U.S. leave a job there and are not unemployed in Mexico. Their choice is for a better life, not escaping penury or starvation.

      The solution is a real, double 2,000 mile fence and E-Verify. Notice that Obama and Jorge Bush refused to do either. Bush with only 400 miles of single fencing and no E-Verify nationwide mandate, and Obama doing neither.

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      • #18
        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by calicowest:
        So, what you think?

        Maybe this can become a wave across this country.

        http://www.examiner.com/x-1031...l-Anchor-Baby-births </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
        It would not pass Constitutional muster. This will go down the same slippery path as Prop 187.
        "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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        • #19
          Will be a waste of time, money and effort to attempt to repeal the 14th Amendment amid this economic turmoil by a populace that's barely trying to survive their daily existence.

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          • #20
            The real reason why illegal immigration has dropped. Not directly because of increased border security but of increased cost charged by the coyotes:

            Following the money: What's really behind the slowdown in Mexican border arrests?

            In the past year, the U.S. government took strong measures to seal the border with Mexico, deploying 6,000 National Guard troops, sharply increasing the size of the Border Patrol, and installing new detection equipment and barriers.

            Around the time these measures were being implemented, the number of arrests at the border began to fall. The U.S. Border Patrol reported this year that arrests are down 10 percent from last year.

            Advocates of tougher enforcement point to these facts and say the policy is working, that the crackdown is deterring would-be illegals. But Dawn McLaren, research economist at the W. P. Carey School of Business and a specialist in border issues, has another explanation. The increased presence of security has pushed up the cost of getting assistance in crossing the border. Then labor economics come into play. With the economy on the U.S. side softening, the prospects are declining that workers will find jobs that pay enough to justify the higher price of sneaking across.

            And note federale86:

            McDowell agrees that economic conditions in the United States are a factor in illegal immigration. The key variable, according to McDowell, is the difference in wages in Mexico and the United States. "The bigger the wage differential, the greater the incentive to migrate," he said. Said McLaren, "They can make more here. We are pulling them here because of the wage differential."

            What I was saying. 1st world country (high wages) alongside a 3rd world country (low wages) is the draw. Pure economics. You'll always have an illegal immigration problem here.

            wpcarey.asu.edu
            "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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            • #21
              Away from such poor analogies, the problem is so huge that it needs to be addressed from economic, humanitarian, and legalistic vantage points. Enforcing a dysfunctional system just reinforces further the dysfunction – an exercise in futility!

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              • #22
                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rough Neighbor:
                Away from such poor analogies, the problem is so huge that it needs to be addressed from economic, humanitarian, and legalistic vantage points. Enforcing a dysfunctional system just reinforces further the dysfunction – an exercise in futility! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                LMAO!!! When did you learn my code???? LOL!!!
                USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who y

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                • #23
                  Whose economics? Mostly USA's. When the US needs something from others, it's according to her terms - when others need something from the US, still, it's according to her terms. That immigrants are a drain to the economy is baloney. It's the opposite that's statistically proven.

                  Whose humanitarian interest? USCs, LPRs, etc., and all immigrants. Since time immemorial, say even before the 1700s, whose family members need to be re-unified and re-united?

                  Anyone, I repeat, anyone who can't see anything amiss with the current immigration system that definitely and desperately needs comprehensive reform, has the narrowest personal interest, not of the common good and of the whole country in mind. O yes, that's plain un-American.

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