Wife and I need some HELP

[PaulTThai]

Hi

My wife is from Thailand, she now a US citizen

Now she would like to bring her son to the US but there is a problem, the father will not sign any papers, because he and her son are very hard to find, he is hiding her son from her.

My question is do we have any legal pull to take her son from the father if we find him?

When I was at the Thai embassy I signed one of the papers saying I would support her son, that was at her interview before she came to the US.

ANY HOPE?

[PaulTThai]

Hi

My wife is from Thailand, she now a US citizen

Now she would like to bring her son to the US but there is a problem, the father will not sign any papers, because he and her son are very hard to find, he is hiding her son from her.

My question is do we have any legal pull to take her son from the father if we find him?

When I was at the Thai embassy I signed one of the papers saying I would support her son, that was at her interview before she came to the US.

ANY HOPE?

[FSN]

You have singed that affidavite say that you will support her son...
There are many questions to your case.....
Please send more details about ...?
How you met your wife...?
Where....? Was she already Divoreced at that time....?
Was you a U.S. Citizen.....?
How old was your son at the time of your marrage....?
Then many of us might be able to help you in this matter...

[unique]

I think you need to think of what’s best for the boy. Not what you want. Clearly if your wife is now a USC, she has spent much time away from her son. This means that the boy has bonded with his Dad. If the Father didn’t love his son, he wouldn’t be hiding from you. The reason he’s hiding is because he knows you’ll be able to take him because you have more money.

You have 2 choices. 1. Do what’s best for the boy, and let it be. 2. Think of yourself, and offer $10,000 USD to the Thai police to take the boy from his Father. 10k will get the Father killed, and the boy in your hands. The boy will be devastated without his Dad.

Clearly, Davdah has not spent much time in Thailand.

[unique]

That won't happen because his wife is Thai.

[ProudUSC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
The father is the father and has the absolute right to deny his child from being taken out of the country. May not like it. If the tables were turned and your wife left you, would you care for it being legal for anyone to say they will support the kid and that be all that was required to suspend your parental position?

The only way it will happen is either court order in Thailand or voluntarily given. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree with this. The father has rights too. She is the one who left the country, so she will need serious proof that she would be the better custodial parent.

[Aroha]

Ordinarily if one parent won't grant permission, you need to go to court and apply for full custody and the right to take the child to live permanently outside of the country. In this case, it would be very difficult since your wife hasn't been in her sons life for a very long period of time. That is, of course, unless Unique is correct and the Thai system is really that corrupt. The only comfort on that is paying the police to remove the child won't matter - it's USCIS that require parental consent for any child under the age of 16.

[PaulTThai]

Hi All

I just wanted to say THANK YOU for the information

[federale86]

If the father and son are in Thailand, then it is just an issue for Thai law. This has nothing to do with American immigration law. Given that Thailand is a beautiful patriachal culture, I would suggest that there is not much you can do without the consent of the father, and obviously custodial parent.

[PaulTThai]

davdah

If we were to try geting a court order, would we need to go through Homeland Security by filing the I-130 form here in the States or try an Immigration Lawer?

[federale86]

The Thai justice system has jurisdiction and any attempt to smuggle the child in violation of Thai soveriegnty will also make you liable for an international kidnapping. Don't file anything with DHS until you get custody and permission to remove the child. Your best bet is to make a large payment to the father.

[FSN]

You wife was Divorced in Thailand,
Who had the custody of Child...?
How old was her child at the time of your marriage to her....?
As far as I know the Thai laws are still the same which were in 200/02
Child custody are mainy reanted to mother in Thailand...
When the former spouse come to know that she is getting married to some one they always try to kidnap the child or take a child for few days and he is never returned to mother...
You need to pass on complete information on this case..
Any one with the Consular expirence who had worked at that or other U.S. Embassy/Consulate can give you more information.

[PaulTThai]

You have singed that affidavite say that you will support her son...
There are many questions to your case.....
Please send more details about ...?
How you met your wife...?
Where....? Was she already Divoreced at that time....?
Was you a U.S. Citizen.....?
How old was your son at the time of your marrage....?
Then many of us might be able to help you in this matter...


Hi FSN

To anwser your Questions

1 we meet in Bangkok through a friend
2 she was not married to the father
3 I'm a USC from birth
4 Her son was 4 years of age at time of marrige
he is now 10 years of age.


The father took her son from my wife at 2 years of age and has been in hiding, she wants to give her son a better life
We went to HOMELAND SECURITY office in Bangkok last month they told use to fill out the I-130 form here at home and it
would go from there, we know nothing.

[FSN]

It very funny to see that father had taken a way his/her son at the age of 2. they do not want to have the responsiblities of any child and they sign the affidavit in the Thai Court of their right....I have done 7 cases of this nature.
You were told to file I-130, I hope you have his Thai Birth Certificate which give some information if father had also signed the affidavit before the Registrart at the time of registration of birth.
That will come up throught your I-130...to look for his where about in thailand...
some time it takes time to locate the persons
Wish you best of Luck...?...

[PaulTThai]

Hi FSN

The father didn't sign the affidavit. I signed it at the time of my wifes interview before she came to America

We do have her sons birth certificate