House-Senate Immigration Rumour

[Antifascist1]

The one who is bluffing here is you, Jean, not Sesenbrenner in House
Latter is very powerful Congressman, known to get his way whenever he wished so.

Regards,
IE

[jean2005]

sensenbrenner might be a tought negotiator, but is he willing to do so at the perils on his fellow incumbent republicans WHO will face tought re election bids???...Now, sensenbrenner might not care, but would Hastert, and even Bohener allow him to proceed and not accepting tought enforcement + guest worker when they know that if the bill passes congress, then G.O.P members are most likely to be re elected because republicans will claim the credit??..

this is the questions that should be asked...the answer to that is that no party should let one person hold a gun to their head, and this is what sensenbrenner will attempt to do...my prediction is, that they will be so much pressure to get something pass before election that the majority of GOP members will let sensnebrenner know to let it go and let the president get the credit for the legislature.i believe that bush has more support then hastert, even at his low ratings and could easily get those members behind him.

THE REASON WHY SO MANY HOUSE GOP RISK LOSING THEIR SEAT IN NOVEMEBER IS BECAUSE OF THE PRESIDENT LOW APPROAVAL RATINGS, AND IMMIGRATION COULD BRING THE NUMBER UP, THUS HELPING THEM GET RE ELECTED.

[Antifascist1]

Actually, knowing the stand of Rep. Sesenbrenner constituencies, you should be aware that Sesenbrenner and other strong backers of HR4437 in the House have more to gain if they pass nothing, than if they concede to the Senate and allow for passage of what they call an "amnesty" bill.

Again, you either don't know anything about House and Districts that elect Representatives and the entire legislative process/forces, or else you are trying to mislead your readers.

IE

[Talisker]

There is so much more to this Bill....
How do you think will the Latino population react when the Bill would fail or even worse there would be enforcement only.
Do you remember the riots in LA in the 90's?

Also, the big companies are not interested in being hassled.

Don't get to excited about the rumours and newspapers. It only fills columns and airtime.

[jean2005]

Again, polls after polls have shown that the american public are willing to accept the legaliztion part, as long as the border are shut and keeps future amnesty seekers from entering and wait for upcoming amnesty...polls after polls...and i believe that this theory is true..if you give the american public a very strong enoforcement bill(which i think the senate has reached and still improving it), then add a guest worker to it, the public will take it for the fact that enforcment only is just inhuman..you might hate latinoes, but would you pass a bill to treats them like dogs? and ignore the fact that some of them have families and kids that are Citizens?..for this facts alone, the american public supports the senate version on a landslide against the house approch...also, you cant deport 12 million people or starve them to death by nutrition like tancredo is advocating.

if you havent noticed, tancredoes and others no longer advocate mass deportation, but advocate starvation and hoping that they leave on their own lol, very laughable...SO IF MASS DEPORTATION IS INHUMAN AND THE WORLD WILL COME HARD ON THE UNITED STATES , WHAT WILL THE WORLD THINK ABOUT A LESGISLATURE THAT IS WRITTEN TO STARVE HUMAN BY TAKING AWAY THEIR JOB AND SHUTTING SCHOOLS TO NON CITIZEN KIDS?? NEVER WILL HAPPEN.

[jean2005]

Sensenbrenner constutuency might be anti-latino, but would the republican party allow sensenbrenner constituency, to dictate in what direction the party goes? and disregard the latinoe bloc? which is the fastest growing bloc in american history?

[Antifascist1]

I don't understand what is your goal in misleading.

Latinos aren't very likely to come and read what you write on this site.
So, who are you trying to mislead here?

Polls DO show that more than half of Americans support Guest Worker program, but House Representatives are not elected in direct proportion to what polls say.

Each Representative is elected by certain District, and Districts are pretty safe for most of the incumbents, no matter how much the rest of the country disagrees with them, as long as the individual Representative does what his District voters want him/her to do.

And this is just ONE aspect to mention..


IE

[jean2005]

Hve you been watching the news lately?? are you aware that the house GOP members are predicted to lose enought seats to swing the balance of power to the democrats??..karl rove, who i would think knows much more then you, has stated that immigration legislature will help incumbents get re elected in compare to nothing being done..and he's the guy in charge in analyzing those stuff so you would think he knows much more then you.

Karl rove understand that legislature will help them keep the house and you dont know nothing..you are just a anti immigrant guy.

[Antifascist1]

you are just a anti immigrant guy.

I am just as much anti-immigrant as you are pro-immigrant

[jean2005]

While the immigration debate has divided Republican members of Congress, a majority of the public supports Bush's approach. A Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll last month showed 63 percent of U.S. adults support proposals to give legal status to undocumented workers and legislation that combines tougher enforcement of immigration laws with new temporary-worker programs. Among Republican voters, 64 percent support such a proposal, the April 8-11 poll found.