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    Is is true if you have been in this country for ten or more years, you can file for a green card even if you legal or illegal immigrant.

  • #2
    Is is true if you have been in this country for ten or more years, you can file for a green card even if you legal or illegal immigrant.


    • #3
      I don't think so. There is one provision, that I know of and that is that you must have been here continuesly since before 1972.

      I know of somebody who has been in the country for 22 years, and wasn't able to file because of time.
      “...I may condemn what you say, but I will give my life for that you may say it”! - Voltaire


      • #4
        Someone said that to me. I could not believe it. I doubt it is true. If so, we would not have the illegal immigrant problem we are facing now.


        • #5
          I guess you must be talking about "cancellation of removal" relief.


          • #6
            What appears to be true is that the media has the power to change your status. There was a story last year about a German kid in ohio who was an overstay on a visitor visa for years. Seemed like an open and shut case for deportation.

            The media got a hold of it and painted the kid as, you guessed it, a victim. Seems that a Senator from Ohio (surprisingly, it was during an election year) then was able to change the law so that the kid could stay and get his green card. I am summarizing this to the best of my knowledge if anyone has more accurate information, I welcome any corretions.

            To me the moral of the story seems to be that the law is now being interpreted by the main stream media.

            Kind of hard for this USC not to be cynical about immigration gang.


            • #7
              Private laws, Congress has authority to consider legislation for private relief under certain circumstances.


              • #8
                Special circumstances, gottcha


                • #9
                  I see your point, private laws are some kind of sour topic and factors like election years only make them even more controversial.


                  • #10
                    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Dr. Lavoisier:
                    Is is true if you have been in this country for ten or more years, you can file for a green card even if you legal or illegal immigrant.

                    Dr. Lavoisier, this is for FYI purposes only and no insuinuation on my part that you've ever been deported and reentered. Another poster commented about continuation so that prompted me to post this.

                    July 11, 2006
                    By David G. Savage, Times Staff Writer

                    Supreme Court Upholds Strict Deportation Law

                    An illegal immigrant is subject to a policy pased after his arrival and cannot remain, justices rule, despite a job and family here.

                    WASHINGTON -- Illegal immigrants who return to the United States after being deported are "continous lawbreakers" and are subject to automatic removal from this country, the Supreme Court ruled Thursday, even if they have lived here more than 20 years and have jobs and families.

                    The 8-1 decision upholds a strict 1996 law that adopted a no-leniency policy for those who returned illegally to this country after having been deported.

                    "This is a 'two strikes and you're out' law, said Washington lawyer David Gossett, who challenged its application to illegal immigrants who reentered the country before 1996 when Congress toughened the law. He estimated that Thursday's ruling would apply to "tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands" of immigrants who reentered the country illegally in recent decades.

                    His client, Humberto Fernandez-Vargas, is a 53-year-old citizen of Mxico who, starting in the 1970s entered the United States illegally -- and was subsequently deported -- several times.

                    In 1982, he returned for the last time and settled quietly in Utah. He started a trucking business, fathered a son in 1989 and married the boy's mother in 2001.

                    Based on his marriage to a U.S. citizen, he applied for lawful permanent residence in teh United States. That filing backfired, since it tipped off immigration authorities that he was here illegally. He was taken into custody and deported to Juarez, Mexico two years ago.

                    His wife, Rita, has continued the legal battle on his behalf.

                    The Supreme court took up the case because several lower courts -- including the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, which has jurisdiction in California and eight other Western states -- had adopted a lenient standard for illegal immigrants who had been in the United States for decades. The 9th Circuit judges had ruled that Congress did not mean to apply the new law to illegal immigrants who had reentered the country before 1996.

                    But writing for the majority on the Supreme Court, Justice David H. Souter disagreed saying that Congrress meant the law to apply to every once-deported immigrant who had returned illegally and stayed.

                    Fernandez-Vargas "had an ample warning: of the strict new law in 1996, and "he chose to remain after the new statute became effective." Souter wrote in Fernandez-Vargas vs Gonzales "He claims a right to continue illegal conduct indefinitely under the terms on which it began, an entitlement of legal stasis for those whose lawbreaking is continuous."

                    Souter acknowledged that complying with the law "would have come at a high personal price, for Fernandez-Vargas would have had to leave a business and a family he had established during his illegal residence."

                    But in the end, he is paying for "continously illegal action" over an extended period, Souter wrote.

                    At one point, the court appeared to leave open the possibility that the result could be different for once-deported illegal immigrants who had married U.S. citizens or applied to become legal residents before 1996. Some judges have blocked the deportation of such immigrants, but those are "facts not in play here," Souter said in a footnote.

                    In the past, it was understood that persons who entered the United States illegally after having been deported were subject to being sent home again. However, the immigration laws allowed them to seek a waiver if, for example, that had a job and a family.

                    The no-exceptions rule was adopted shortly after Republicans took control of Congress in the 1994 elections. It appears in the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act and says that "an alien [who] reentered the United States illegally after having been removed" may not seek to have his case "reopened or reviewed. [He] is not eligible and may not apply for any relief... and the alien shall be any time after the reentry."

                    Jennifer Chacon, a law professor at UC Davis, said the ruling highlights an unfairness in the law.

                    "This concerns the people we should be the least concerned about. They are stable people with jobs: grandparents, parents, husbands," she said. "These people are not security threats."

                    This year, Congress and the Bush administration have been debating whether to change immigration laws again. The Senate's bill, but not the House version, would give longtime illegal immigrants a path to seeking legal status in the United States.

                    But immigration experts said it was not altogether clear that the proposed changes in the law, if adopted, would aid those who reentered the country after being deported.

                    The American Civil Liberties Union and several immigrant-rights groups had urged the court not to apply the 1996 law retroactively.

                    "It is a disappointing decision, and it is a further example of the harshness of the 1996 law," said Lucas Guttentag, who heads the ACLU Foundation's Immigrants' Rights Project.

                    Dissenting alone, Justice John Paul Stevens said the court usually did not apply new laws to old cases. Because Fernandez-Vargas had a 15-year record of stable work and a family, he would have been eligible to stay in the United States prior to the passage of the 1996 law. For that reason, it is unfair to apply the law to him now, Stevens said.

                    End of article.

                    Search the web for articles on the Kyl-Cornyn Act which proposed adjustments of status to undocumented immigrants. There are three categories based on number of years the undocumented person has been here. It passed the Senate but not the House. Possibly something akin to it will succeed in the upcoming immigration reforms.


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