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    Interesting note: Application for Employment in my State does not ask for immigration/citizenship status and giving your SS# is optional!

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    Interesting note: Application for Employment in my State does not ask for immigration/citizenship status and giving your SS# is optional!

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    • #3
      The I-9 does ask for both however.

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      • #4
        But the application for a state job asks about your race and the African Americans or Hispanics most likely get the job rather than Whites as a part of racial injustice in US.
        This explains while most of low level state jobs are taken by African Americans.
        Do not even think about a state job for instance as a social worker if you do not know Spanish.

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        • #5
          The law requires every employer to fill I-9 for every employee. That includes US citizens as well.
          See http://uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/i-9.htm

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          • #6
            This is a good state job with decent pay - no spanish requested - interesting that the small stores in the area request that information on their applications. Also the question about race is optional. One would think they would ask before they went through the hassle of hiring someone.

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            • #7
              In my state: they do use the social security number as the identifier, I haven't checked into that any further.. however race and s ex are optional questions. We have 2 people who speak semi fluent Spanish, very FEW minorities in our office. By the way, my office is full of social workers... we also have other state jobs in our building, few minorities in those positions either. We all have easy access to interpreters via the phone.

              Maria quote:
              "But the application for a state job asks about your race and the African Americans or Hispanics most likely get the job rather than Whites as a part of racial injustice in US.
              This explains while most of low level state jobs are taken by African Americans.
              Do not even think about a state job for instance as a social worker if you do not know Spanish."

              Please don't post things as FACTS when they aren't.

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              • #8
                Still learning,

                Affirmative action IS a fact and it is legal to hire an African American over a White. Your response to Maria seems to inciate that you have a problem with this part of the law.

                If so, just wait a few months. Once Samuel Alito is confirmed and the Supreme Court moves to the right Affirmative Action will cease to exist.

                It was almost extinquished in the Univ of Michigan case that came before the court 2 years ago

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                • #9
                  This is the paragraph on our state application regarding affirmative action. "The following information is for Equal Employment Opportunity/Affirmative Action purposes only. To assist the State of *** in its commitment to equal employment opportunity, applicants are asked to provide voluntarily the following information. The State of *** is authorized under federal law to retain this information for research and statistical reasons. This information will not be used in an employment decision and refusal to provide this information will not affect an applicants employment opportunities. Information requested is to be completed on a voluntary basis. Data will be held confidential and only used in accordance with applicable federal law."

                  I did not complete that portion of the application, I don't know anyone that has.

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                  • #10
                    The reasoning behind "affirmative action is profound. It is positive discrimination.
                    I suggest everyone read the Supreme Court rulings before saying all the bad things about it.

                    However, this being said, with years of records available, one needs to look whether these programs served the stated in Supreme Court rulings cause (Supreme Court in its' opinion stated that America could one day achieve the dream of "One Nation" only if it did provide better options for those historically disadvantaged minorities to catch up with the rest and compete for greatest contribution to the welfare of entire society).

                    If "Affirmative Action" "(not to be confused with "equal protection") produced contrary results, or produces more negativity and recentment in Society in whole , instead of doing much good for those minorities and serving Best Interests of the Entire Nation, then certainly "Affirmative Action"
                    can once again be looked at by Supreme Court and repelled, if said Court finds it nesessary and in the best interests of the Nation.

                    Best Regards,
                    IE

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                    • #11
                      I didn't say bad things about affirmative action. I disagreed with a post.

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                      • #12
                        Affirmative Action is a requirement of Federal contractors and subcontractors to ensure that all individuals have an equal opportunity for employment, irrespective of race, color, religion, gender, national origin, disability or status as a Vietnam era or special disabled veteran.
                        The above is simply an opinion. Your mileage may vary. For immigration issues, please consult an immigration attorney.

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                        • #13
                          Sl,
                          I didn't say you did.
                          Someone else did.

                          sappyconifer,
                          "Affirmative Action" is not an "Equal Protection", but is a "Positive Discrimination".

                          ____________

                          1. Affirmative action (U.S. English), or positive discrimination (British English), is a policy or a program promoting the representation in various systems of people of a group who have traditionally been discriminated against, with the aim of creating a more egalitarian society. This typically focuses on education, employment, health care, or social welfare.

                          In employment, affirmative action may also be known as employment equity or preferential hiring. In this context affirmative action requires that institutions increase hiring and promotion of candidates of mandated groups.

                          There is much debate concerning claims that the practice is itself racialist, that it fails to achieve its desired goal, and that it has unintended and undesirable side-effects.

                          2. Equal opportunity practices that are race-blind or gender-blind may be distinguished from practices that involve or require affirmative action or reverse discrimination. The United States federal government and various state and local governments require affirmative action in terms of governmental hiring and contracting; many other countries make such action illegal.

                          The method of providing equal opportunity is often a subject of controversy, as is the means by which to measure the success or failure of equal opportunity policies. Opportunity itself is often difficult - if not impossible - to accurately measure. Thus, in practice, equal opportunity is said to exist when people with similar abilities reach similar results after doing a similar amount of work.

                          From online source.

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                          • #14
                            My comment addressed Sugarpuff's statement that Affirmative Action is law (implied in all sectors). Not true. Also to Maria's post about state hiring policies. I don't support the concept of AA, myself for the very reason that, in fact, what occurs often is quite the opposite to the premise.
                            The above is simply an opinion. Your mileage may vary. For immigration issues, please consult an immigration attorney.

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                            • #15
                              uh, sappy, the thread began talking about employment in state agencies. Therefore the only implication you should derive from my response is that it was referring to state agenices, where indeed affirmative action is the law.

                              Either pay attention or don't respond. Purposely confusing the discussion with irreleant refrences is not appreciated.

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