Federale's Immigrant Of The Day: Francis Hernandez of Guatamala

[abercrombie_toronto]

This is God earth its no one property, people have the freedom to move wherever they wish on one clear condition, be peaceful, let people live in peace and mind up your f.............in god dammmm business, u aint our god on earth, those people are seeking better place to call home because they are suffering from ppl like you and they have no power to defend themselves but to go to somehere where they can survive, those ppl could be your or mine relative so dont u have sympathy opr heart to anyone who cant feed his or her family in where they live and lets face it, do u think they can live with your country immigration lawwwww, look @ me, 8 years and i dont even know if i will get my f....in green card and yet another 2 to three years to know so, although i know i am strong 1st because i am not desperate to be close to ppl like u, 2nd, 10 years back in canada, i knew I would be meeting assssssssssssssssss holes losssssssssers like u so i stocked up my investment with 2 masters degree, one year on the run for a phd degree, 7 years of work exp in engineering, full time job and beyond all and plz watch me wariting this and stick it up your ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS' CANADIAN CITIZEN' and i am not even 30 years old yet.... U seeeee u Son of A *****HhHhHhHh Great weekend *****HhHhhHhHhH



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Someone12:
wow...what a coherent posting from some syrian camel "rider"....and to RoughNeighbor....if you are so supportive of illegal aliens or unwilling to voice any position or too FN scared to swim against the tide, well, show your true support for these dooshbags by taking a few into YOUR house, feed and clothe them, let them use YOUR car, and anything you think they 'deserve.' But like all illegal alien supporters, you lack the courage to stand behind your words.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Someone12]

Note that the 14th amendment does NOT give any illegal alien the RIGHT to be in MY country....period. Read it again and again, until your peanut-sized brain can understand that simple concept....(why do we have visa laws????)

[abercrombie_toronto]

u really cant be human.................... this is all i can say' u are worse than this evil usama bin laden'


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Someone12:
Note that the 14th amendment does NOT give any illegal alien the RIGHT to be in MY country....period. Read it again and again, until your peanut-sized brain can understand that simple concept....(why do we have visa laws????) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Rough Neighbor]

But not anywhere in the Constitution does it say either for the government not to act rationally to address or solve the problem. 12M and counting doesn't look to me to be a logical number in the 21st century America. Nitpicking on checkpoints here and there and raiding employers here and there don't look anywhere near rational.

[abercrombie_toronto]

he is just selfish and he doesnt wish the good for anyone but him and his brothers, i met lots of ppl like this nature and all u can do is treat them by the language they understand, just show them u can nail them down and show them what success is so let them see how losers they are'



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rough Neighbor:
But not anywhere in the Constitution does it say either for the government not to act rationally to address or solve the problem. 12M and counting doesn't look to me to be a logical number in the 21st century America. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Rough Neighbor]

As expected, when given his due beating, he'd chicken out. Where have the courage and ill-placed patriotism gone? Hey c'mon show me what you've got please, bedpan-cleaning douchebag!

[Someone12]

Once again, you are dodging the very argument you tried to make....please point out in the Constitution where it says that anyone can just saunter across our borders without permission and live and work legally.....while ole abercrumbly picks dates out of his rear end.

[Rough Neighbor]

A douchebag is a douchebag is a douchebag, really, and the original dodge artist on the side. After failing to justify his 'reform proposals' (translation: dodging simple and direct challenges to his oft-bruited about refrain, which I won't call idiotic until provoked, I promise) the next best thing to do is to hide behind a logical fallacy with a false dilemma trimming.

Oh, but what to expect from SOMEONE whose day job is to clean bedpans and cavort with a cow's behind on weekends as favorite pastime?

Okay, so there's no any explanation about the legal mechanics (the original premise of this discussion) on how to carry out his proposals namely: an end to all waivers, to AOS, to visa extensions, and to alien and USC marriages, but with extra-legal deportations in all cases?

My patience is getting thin, but I'm giving him the chance to answer with even just a modicum of sense. I know it's somewhat of a stretch but I'm hoping against hope just in case...

[Rough Neighbor]

As for his request: "....please point out in the Constitution where it says that anyone can just saunter across our borders without permission and live and work legally....."

That's easy.

It's embodied in Article 1 - The Legislative Branch, Section 8 - Powers of Congress of the US Constitution that states in part, thus: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization...

It's within the power (and innate duty) of the Legislative Branch to bestow upon "any person" with guaranteed due process and equal protection rights (See Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments) to enjoy the benefits of a uniform rule of naturalization.

It was done through various acts of the US Congress, the most notable among them were the Naturalization Act of 1790 and Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986.

But the fact that the legislature isn't doing it now while it's long overdue is tantamount to them reneging on their constitutional mandate.

That brings us back to what I said in one of my previous posts that the government is failing to take on its responsibility. They've done it before, why the h e c k should they not do it now? What's taking them so long? It's inevitable and long overdue.

[Brit4064]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">That brings us back to what I said in one of my previous posts that the government is failing to take on its responsibility . They've done it before, why the h e c k should they not do it now? What's taking them so long? It's inevitable and long overdue. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

See Unique's story he posted elsewhere. 1-0 to RN

Originally white man came and took over Indian land and claimed it as theirs. Was white man illegally entering Indian country?

[Someone12]

Sorry RN, aka Biggest Doofus in History, but the example you cited does NOT bestow any right upon any non USC to cross the borders of our soveriegn nation nor take up residence in this country....read it again...and BTW, you owe me royalties on your pathetic inability to think up your insulting comments....you had to borrow most of the terms I use....

[Rough Neighbor]

Dodge, dodge, and dodge the issue, douchebag. Borrowing your terms or giving back to you what you can use ONLY to helpless immigrants? It must be working well. You're hurting. And your 20 IQ has just been exhibited. Now I'm still awaiting, without holding my breath though, your sensible response of any kind. Prove me wrong, Super Doofus.

[Someone12]

You STILL have not found ONE WORD in the Constitution that supports your silly position...and I challenge you to scour the Constitution to find the words that support your **** view....NO ONE who is not an American Citizen nor LPR has the RIGHT to cross the borders of MY country (it is not yours, because you have zero idea of what it means to be an American) and live happily ever after....come one....let's see you find those elusive words....(that scratching sound is you running a fingernail across your scalp, wondering what to do next....and try to think of some insults that are original.....

[Rough Neighbor]

ilw.com update: Someone12 exposed.

After all, there's nothing but an empty head behind that big immigrant bashing. He looks brave and knowledgeable only to those of you who are hapless and helpless.

Why escape from the real issue of this debate by forcing me to a corner with the idea that's not even a legitimate premise? Well, it's worth a try but no way Jose.

Yeah, use false logic and get mad. Translation: chickening away from the real issue because you can't justify your 'original' proposals.

At least move a little bit out of your trailer park intellect by countering my Constitutional interpretation about the question that you're asking.

I have mine, you have none.

[Someone12]

Dear NR the Simpleton: All I asked of you was to point out any reference in my Constitution that states that anyone,other than an American citizen or legal permanent resident, that bestows the RIGHT to any dooshbag to cross the borders of my country and live and work without permission...of course, by now you have realized that your interpretation is pure baloney...and that is why you have yet to even cut and paste anything from the Constitution that supports your empty argument....I've seen dried dog tu.rds on the street that are smarter than you.