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    Mayor: Hate Fueling Immigration Debate

    POSTED: 12:12 pm MST January 7, 2008
    UPDATED: 3:07 pm MST January 7, 2008

    PHOENIX -- Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon says the debate over illegal immigration is turning racist and hateful and something needs to be done before the situation gets out of control.

    ``People are calling this a game. It's not a game. It's becoming life and death for a lot of people," Gordon said, speaking exclusively to News/Talk 92-3 KTAR. ``This has got to stop and it has to stop now."

    Gordon said extremists have seized control of the immigration issue and believe they have authority to say who belongs in the country and who doesn't.

    ``It's outrageous conduct on the part of these individuals who have proclaimed themselves self-judges of who belongs in our country and who doesn't belong in our country," the mayor said. ``What's going on now is the worst of the worst things individuals turn to, out of fear. They're starting to hate."

    Gordon's comments brought a strong reaction from Rick Galeener, one of the demonstrators who gathered at a north Phoenix day labor center for the 10th straight day on Monday.

    ``This is ridiculous," Galeener said. ``Our mayor should be ashamed of himself for standing up for illegal activity and calling American citizens racist. This is ricidulous."

    He added, ``Mayor Gordon, get off your butt and do something. Otherwise, we need to change the system of government we have in this city."

    Some of the opponents of illegal immigration have ties to dangerous hate groups, Gordon said.

    ``If you check the websites of some of these individual groups and individuals who are involved right here in our city, you'll see the ties to neo-nazis, you'll see the ties to skinheads, you'll see the ties to racist hate groups."

    There's no easy solution to the problem, but a comprehensive immigration reform package needs to be done now, Gordon said. ``Not wait two years, not wait until after the presidential elections are over, but start working on it now. It needs enforceable borders, it needs a work force vista that can be tracked for the millions of people who are here legally."

    Immigration reform must include a process that leads to citizenship by immigrants going to the back of the line, not the front, the mayor said.

    Galeener said his group would continue its protests outside the day labor center until it closed permanently.

    Salvador Reza, who operates the center near 25th Street and Bell Road, vowed it would not be shut down.

    Both sides complained that innocent people have been caught in the crossfire of the heated debate at the center.

    Gordon said he has tried to mediate disputes.

    ``I pled with both sides, for the leaders to come in and let's work through this. They both put unreasonable demands, impossible demands on me before they would come in. These extremists that are leading some of these protects, they don't want a solution, they want problems."

    Late last year, Gordon named a four-member panel to study changes in Phoenix Police policy which currently bans officers from questioning people they stop about their citizenship status. He is still waiting for recommendations.

    A similar question has come up in Mesa, where Police Chief George Gascon has come under fire for his policy that officers will not ask about immigration status at all stops. Mesa has been called a sanctuary city because of the policy, but City Councilman Tom Rawles said that is not so.

    Rawles, speaking on the Jay Lawrence Show, said he does not know and does not care what Gascon's personal views are. ``They policy is being set by the council and not the chief."

    Rawles said the city does turn over illegal aliens to federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents and that have officers ask about immigration status would add 40 minutes of police work to every stop.

  • #2
    Hate Crimes: The New Politics of Racism

    Americans are proud that we are people with different backgrounds, faiths, viewpoints, and personal characteristics. However, there is a recent rise in hate crimes that contradicts the American identity as a caring, diverse and inclusive society. Since 9/11, an increasingly strident message of xenophobia has seeped into both fringe and mainstream political movements. A new climate of exclusion has formed as a result of this country's heightened anxiety against racial, ethnic, and religious minorities. In this climate, violence toward those who are deemed outsiders because of their sexual orientation, gender, or disability may be less visible, but it is no less threatening.

    Outside of the public view, the number of hate crimes taking place in the US is on the rise. This new climate of hate taking place in neighborhoods, educational institutions, and workplaces has made African Americans, Latinas/os, Asian/Pacific Americans, immigrants, gender and sexual orientation bias, and disabled or because of a combination of these attributes particular targets. Hate crimes driven by racist and other discriminatory animus, are no less serious and no less pervasive, adding to everyday injustice a new constant of fear for those under threat.

    Intolerance Is In
    Has hatred has become hip? Whether or not intended as such, we are in the midst of a growing culture of hate. Bias crimes may be motivated by racist or religious hatred, or by discrimination because of a person's gender, sexual orientation, or disability or some combination of these factors. Graffiti is also used to intimidate and terrorize individuals and communities. On Aug. 19, in Campbell, CA, the United Church of Christ was vandalized with hateful epithets spray-painted on both sides of a church sign with the words "Fags Go to Hell" and "God's Rule." Although this kind of hate crime does not receive the same amount of attention as high profile attacks, the fact is, these types of hate crime can have a more devastating effect than other crimes because of the psychological impact it has on both the victim and the victim's community - the perpetrators is indistinguishable from the ordinary mainstream populace.

    In the same way that some young men get together on a Saturday night to hang out, certain hatemongers gather to destroy property or to bash people based on their race, religion, sexual orientation, ethnicity, national origin, or disability. They look merely to have some fun at someone else's expense. This was the case in Antioch, CA. Recently, two teenagers were arrested for a hate crime after they allegedly taunted a group of deaf people at a party and later attacked them. Phillip Hale, 18, and a 17-year-old boy whose name was not released attacked the 23-year-old deaf man because of his disability. The victim and witnesses told police the two teenagers approached the group in a garage and began "taunting and mimicking them, making exaggerated sign language gestures." The pair was asked to leave but later returned with a stick, a hoe and a concrete brick, and a fight broke out.

    There has been a disturbing increase recently in the use of negative stereotyping to characterize various minority groups in the United States. Due to the nature of the crime, hate crimes engender a particularly high level of psychological stress, fear, and anxiety. There is no way for potential victims to protect themselves since it is difficult or undesirable to disguise their inherent identities. Hate crimes and the resulting climate of fear and intimidation can blight all aspects of life while also disrupting the larger society. Such as the case that occurred at the University of Maryland when somebody decided to hang a noose outside the school's black cultural center. The noose was found on the campus hanging from a tree outside UM's Nyumburu Cultural Center, which houses the Black Faculty and Staff Association, the Black Explosion newspaper and other organizations. Just recently, it was reported that campus police believe the small noose had been hanging for about two weeks before it was found. Given the historical injustices symbolized by the noose, it not only outraged students, but it has united the students of color on campus to "fight for racial equality."

    We commit our full solidarity with the students of color on this campus in their fight for racial equality. We call on students to support affirmative action programs and the African-American studies department, all of which continue to challenge racism by identifying, developing and amplifying the voices of black students and faculty.

    We call on student groups and the university as a whole to support any and all actions taken by the campus community against the hate crime within the upcoming weeks.

    It is hard to deny the glaring fact that there is a chilling connection between this incident and the case of the Jena 6 in Jena, LA. There seems to be a resurgence of nooses following the situation facing the Jena 6. In Warrenville, IL, it was reported that nooses, racist graffiti and other items were found inside the human resources director's desk of Navistar International, a company that builds trucks and buses. In another incident, somebody hung a noose with an African attached to it in director's office of the Massachusetts Rehabilitation Commission in New Bedford, MA. The investigation is continuing.

    Last month, three stage workers were fired from the Germantown Performing Arts Centre for hanging nooses from the stage riggings in Germantown, TN. The investigation into this case revealed that an employee had asked two of his co-workers if they could demonstrate to him how to tie a noose, even though, he admittedly knew this particular knot is rarely used in the theater industry. It was also discovered, after the employees placed the ropes on the stage riggings, jokes were being made in reference to a "hangman's noose" as one of the employees placed his head through one of the nooses.

    The United States is a dangerous place to live for racial/ethnic minority citizens. Hate crimes pose a serious social problem in many ways, more threatening to civil society than other types of crimes. When threats go from random to constant, the likelihood of a blow becoming a beating is high, because a beating then can become a stabbing or a shooting or even worse murder. When it come to race or gender, there is a tendency for hate crimes to be excessively brutal.

    Recently, in Chicago, Du Doan, a 62 year old Vietnamese man, was apparently pushed into Lake Michigan and subsequently drowned. According the forum on Chicagoland Finishing, Du was fishing alone off Chicago's Montrose Harbor when a group of individuals, 4 males and 1 female, walked up to the Du and pushed him into the water and then turned around and started laughing as they walked away. Du, who couldn't swim, quickly drowned.

    This was the third incident since late July in which fishermen who appeared to be Asian were targeted in the area. The Chicago Police do have the some suspects in custody after 3 of them turned themselves in. John Haley, 31, is charged with the murder of Du Doan and is also charged with aggravated battery for a similar incident on July 31 in which he shoved another man at the same location. His friends, told police that Haley was laughing and bragging about pushing the man into the harbor. Shortly before the group approached Doan, another fisherman of Asian descent was confronted by the same group. A former marine, the fisherman stood his ground, and the group left him alone after spitting at his feet.

    Prior to that day, on July 31, Haley was drinking with friends when he asked a fisherman for a lighter. After the two men had a conversation with the fishermen, Haley stuck him in the back of the head and pushed him into the water. The man was able to swim to safety.

    Investigators have said they found no evidence to indicate the murder was racially motivated even though each victim happened to be Asian. Police told reporters that Haley did not use racial "epithets during the event", which is evidence this was a "senseless" murder.

    It is not surprising that crime was changed from a hate crime to a random act of "senseless" and "out-of-control" murder, since Asian Americans are the most proportionally under-represented racial/ethnic group in American politics and media. Nevertheless, the horrific crime is no less alarming to hear that the victims were of Asian decent or had Asian features.

    Racism in America is a cancer that has feasted on the very soul of this country. For all the alleged gains in equity, racism has finally reared its ugly head again. Attacks motivated by gender bias instill a fear in their intended victims that not only threatens their lives, but also can restrict where they work, study, travel, and live. Such crimes are particularly insidious because they target individuals for who they are and thus put victims at risk at all times and in any situation.

    On Monday, I was informed of an article in the San Francisco Gate about of the continuing and growing epidemic of hate crimes against women. In Charleston, West Virginia, six people are under arrest after an African American woman was lured to a home over the Internet and was she was savagery beaten, sexually abused, and humiliated at the hands of her white abductors for a week.

    Megan Williams, 23, was freed Saturday after cops responded to the home of Frankie Brewster for a "welfare check on a female that was reportedly being held against her will." When cops arrived, Brewster claimed she was the only one home, but then the victim limped to the door with her arms stretched out and said, "Help me." According to the criminal complaints, Megan, had been stabbed four times in her left leg, her were bruised, and had been repeatedly sexually assaulted and humiliated. (Warning: the text contains graphic detail of the heinous crime)

    According to the criminal complaint, Megan stated that she was forced to "**** the toes, vagina and **** cavity" of one of the female abductors, Frankie. She also stated that Frankie threatened to kill her if she was to stop. Megan also stated that Brewster's son Bobby had forced her to eat rat and dog feces, **** up blood, and drink from the toilet Megan also stated that it was Danny Combs who held her at knifepoint as she was forced to perform **** ***, and he also had raped her at knifepoint. Megan also had been choked with a cable cord and her hair cut by Karen Burton, another female abductor. During her ordeal, as Karen cut Megan's ankle with a knife she told her, "This what we do to N* around here." In one of the criminal complaint, it stated she doused with "hot water while being sexually assaulted."

    The six accused, ranging in age from 20 to 49, are facing a long list of charges, including kidnapping, *** assault, and battery. Two others are still being sought. According to the New York Times, authorities are still deciding whether to file additional charges, of hate crimes.

    Reason Why New Hate Crime Bill Should be Pass
    At the root of hate are radical ideologies, radical religious beliefs and pent-up anger and frustration, all of which can lead to violent acts ranging from hate crimes to terrorism. As much as we like to belief extremists live beyond America's shores, the truth is, some of those dangers originate within our own borders, and multitudes of homegrown haters exist with beliefs that are equally dangerous.

    What makes individuals hate, and what makes some act on that hate while others would not? Why is hate of the other so often denied by those who practice it, but justified in the next breath as love of self? In the political world, hate only seems to come up when a leader says something embarrassing, or one party or the other is accused of playing the "race card." The truth is, hate crimes function to maintain the status quo; they protect the people in charge, the men and women who are responsible for making important decisions at the highest levels of society. Blame tends to move away from the top, minimizing the possibility that profound changes could ever occur.

    The winds of race hatred are blowing toward those who desire a more just, multi-political America. What we are witnessing today is the out of control and barbaric behaviors of whole societies that have been infected with ideologies that encourage and demand dysfunctional behaviors. By design, these behaviors are meant to intimidate and threaten.

    Threats and violence against ordinary people who stand out as being different from their neighbors only serves to divide Americans against each other and cause immeasurable harm to whole societies. These are indeed extraordinary times. We must continue struggle. As people of color - Asians, Latinos, African Americans and Native Americans we must continue to challenge the traditional power structure for jobs, status, and power. As our numbers grow, it is only natural to demand our fair share in the wealth of the nation. In our postindustrial society, there is likely to be growing conflict between groups for scarce economic resources. We must collaborate with progressive forces and demand that our leaders be responsive to the needs of the masses.


    • #3
      If you want to silence other ideas, the easiest way is to call it "hate speech" and that justifies censorship


      • #4
        Originally posted by SonofMichael:
        If you want to silence other ideas, the easiest way is to call it "hate speech" and that justifies censorship
        That and call them racists and xenophobes .. .

        Profound Words of wisdom SOM
        Wolves Travel In Packs


        • #5
          Speaking of Hateful . . . Pot meet kettle

          Sweetness & Light

          Clinton Hires La Raza Racist For Her Campaign
          From a delighted Associated Press:

          Clinton Names Activist to Campaign Post

          NEW YORK (AP) - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton announced Thursday that Raul Yzaguirre, a prominent Hispanic activist and former president of the National Council of La Raza, would co-chair her presidential campaign and lead its outreach to Hispanic voters.

          "Hillary Clinton has spent more than three decades advocating on behalf of those who are invisible in America," Yzaguirre said in a statement. "Not only is she the most experienced and qualified candidate to be president, Senator Clinton has the ability to bring people together to get results and move this country forward." ...

          As always, our watchdog media leaves out any bothersome details.

          Mr. Yzaguirre was the Director of the National Council of La Raza. La Raza (which means "race"), which is one of the most racist organizations in the country.

          But that is no surprise, as Mr. Yzaguirre is a racist himself.

          Even Wikipedia admits it:

          As President [of La Raza], Yzaguirre often engaged in hyperbole and sensationalism to promote his racial / raza agenda. In the 1990s Yzaguirre said, "US English is to Hispanics as the Ku Klux Klan is to blacks." He was referring to US English the nation's oldest, largest citizens' action group dedicated to preserving the unifying role of the English language in the United States.

          And that is just the tip of the iceberg. But it's apparently fine for Democrats to hire racists.

          In fact, it's mandatory.

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          LaRaza is a race-based hate organization that sponsored the marches and the waiving of Mexican flags in our country. It also receives millions of our tax dollars annually.

          Wolves Travel In Packs


          • #6
            Americans should be first in all considerations involving our rights, our economy, our health and our education...first....all others go WAY back to the end of the line....(like back across our borders)..the US of A does not owe the planet a living.....


            • #7
              Originally posted by Someone12:
              Americans should be first in all considerations involving our rights, our economy, our health and our education...first....all others go WAY back to the end of the line....(like back across our borders)..the US of A does not owe the planet a living.....
              Can you yell that last part so that EVERY ILLEGAL ALIEN AND VISITOR IN THE US ON the planet understands that. LEGAL IMMIGRATION and AMERICAN CITZENSHIP IS A PRIVILEGE NOT A RIGHT.

              Back when America had a backbone and before all the whiney PC, BS became a reason to allow law breakers run amok in the US you had to have a skillset that no US citizen possessed in order to come here on a visa to work and as a legitimate reason to be eligible for US citizenship. The delusional demands and expectations and criminal actions of foreigners in this country illegally today were totally unheard of and definitely not tolerated.
              Wolves Travel In Packs


              • #8
                Monkey a s s where are you?????? hello?????
                I have your big banana all for you!!!!!!
                Come and get it


                • #9
                  Once upon a time in a country far far away a government tried to make a certain group of people to leave the country. Everything they did was to make life harder and harder for this group of people they wanted to leave. Then this government got much more earnest in their efforts. They started passing more and more repressive laws which made life even harder for this certain group of people that they waqnted to get rid of. The repressive laws only made life much harder on this group of people but they adapted by doing what they had to do even if was breaking more laws. The repression still didn't work. No, this is not Missouri. This was Germany in the 1930's which resulted in Crystal Night otherwise known as The Nite Of Broken Glass which resulted in the worst genoside the world has ever known. We kept saying it couldn't happen here and then it happened to us.


                  • #10
                    Proud, it is obvious that Beverly, SOM and Davdah did not read the article u posted in entirety.


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by davdah:
                      Oh I read it but I refuse to be told that my disagreement with allowing illegals to stay is somehow racist. It isn't. If you read posts by SOM and S12 in the past they attacked people from all walks of life concerning their actions and violations. Not where they came from.

                      The whole idea of trying to label someone a hater because they disagree is in itself hate speech. After all, isn't calling someone a racist a personal attack. Isn't it hateful? Trying to embarrass their mouths shut by calling them a racist is opposition at any cost.

                      That is what makes the supporter's argument empty. Resorting to baseless accusations when cornered shows the desperation.
                      Davdah - you seem to have the feeling this thread was opened in your honor? It was not. I posted these articles merely to raise awareness on the issue. I did not single anyone out. You need to stop being so paranoid - lol.


                      • #12
                        If you want to stop the hate stop the fraud !


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