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  • #16
    One more thing OLD geezer Man.

    Since you are splitting hairs with my post.

    "What the private service does is go and stand in line for you."

    ....if you don't know, shut it. This private expedite companies are registered with the State Dept. and DON'T have to stand in line as YOU put it. They have special handling procedures that applies to them ONLY (not the generall public who stand in line)

    Have a good day. Remember, you are the ignorant soul who undermined my post. In the future, respond with some respect. If not, you'll get negative responses towards you Mr. Old Man


    • #17
      Goodness you are consuming way too many blue pills.

      "So when questioned coming through Customs, I'll just say, "The law is irrelevant;"

      If you read carefull, I mentioned she/he might have trouble getting back in the USA. My original posting referred to her/he leaveing the USA on their foreign passport and then I said "the problem might be getting back in the USA without proper documentation."

      With all due respect, you seem to look pretty foolish at this point. Later.


      • #18
        WHOA! I didn't mean to start a riot! Now you both have me confused. I have just found the following info on the US State Depart. website which clarifies things to a degree.

        Dual Nationality
        The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a citizen of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own citizenship laws based on its own policy.Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. citizen parents may be both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the country of birth.
        A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.

        Intent can be shown by the person's statements or conduct.The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance.

        However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there.Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. citizenship.Most countries permit a person to renounce or otherwise lose citizenship.

        Information on losing foreign citizenship can be obtained from the foreign country's embassy and consulates in the United States. Americans can renounce U.S. citizenship in the proper form at U.S. embassies and consulates abroad.

        Now the answers to my questions are as clear as mud!


        • #19

          Sorry for the digression.

          When you naturalized as a US citizen, you gave up your former citizenship. You have all of the rights and responsibilities of a US citizen... both in and outside of the US.

          However, if another country effectually says, "That's OK, you can still keep our citizenship." the US government can't do anything about it.

          The end result is that you have three choices ahead of you.
          1. Delay your oath ceremony until after your trip. You can travel on your UK passport. Be aware of residence and physical presence requirements that may affect your naturalization.
          2. Delay you trip. A regular US passport application takes 6-8 weeks.
          3. Get an expedited passport. In your situation you would need to use a private service. You will still be cutting the timeframe very close.


          • #20
            Old Man:

            One question, I am Uruguayan, hopefully in a couple of years will be a naturalized USC. Uruguay does allow dual citizenship and I will not lose my citizenship by becoming USC, now what would happen if 9 years down the road I apply for another citizenship, Brazilian for example, by applying for another citizenship I would lose immediately the USC citizenship right? but if marrying a brazilian grants me brazilian citizenship automatically rather than me applying for it, I could have the 3 citizenships concurrently ?


            • #21
              That's pretty much it, although a lot can happen over the next 9 years.

              INA 349 covers expatriation. The key words in section 349 are, "perform certain acts voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship." Since 1998 the State Department has presumed most Americans wish to retain, not relinquish, US citizenship. So, you may not loose US citizenship even by taking another country's citizenship. It all depends on your intent and circumstances


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