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  • OldE
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brit4064:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Plus, many countries have set up mandated price fixing to ensure their citizens do not pay their share of the cost of producing the drugs in the first place. That leaves just this one to make up the difference. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Sounds like your advocating socialism davdah. Spreading the cost across the many. Make your mind up! LOL </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Quite contrary to that and most obviously, he implied that "socialism" elsewhere causes good ole consumer here pay the inflated bill.

    When you disagree with davdah, at least you know there is a man unafraid to speak his mind straightforwardly that you disagree with.

    It is the she-males like Brit, with fainted pretense of not calling blacks negroes when no one hears , that are most difficult to bear without the sterilizing mask on this board.

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  • Brit4064
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Plus, many countries have set up mandated price fixing to ensure their citizens do not pay their share of the cost of producing the drugs in the first place. That leaves just this one to make up the difference. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Sounds like your advocating socialism davdah. Spreading the cost across the many. Make your mind up! LOL

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  • Brit4064
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    The best healthcare system in the world? Better make sure the instruments are clean!

    Doctor Alleges Dirty Instruments At Columbia Hospital

    Testimony Says Hospital Cut Infection Control In Favor Of Building Construction

    Last fall, 12 News revealed that cuts to Columbia Hospital's Infection Control Program may have resulted in dirty surgical instruments and an increase in staph infections.

    Thursday, a surgeon-turned-whistleblower spoke out for the first time.

    The allegations date back to 2008, when Dr. James Stoll alleged that budget cuts were resulting in an increase of bacterial infections in the old Columbia Hospital.

    WISN.com

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  • davdah
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    Quite a few reasons. The left will blame the pharmaceutical industry for being greedy. They'll say you can get the same drugs in another country for less. Well, that might be true but there are reasons why it's so much more here.

    In what country does any professional have to buy insurance at around 250k a year just as protection from blood thirsty lawyers?

    In what country can you turn the TV on at any time after 10:00 PM and see commercials from law firms trolling for class members to take down some major drug manufacturer? None, save one. This one.

    Add in the outrageous costs to set up a sterile factory environment imposed by Osha and the rest of the nanny state government agencies who's only function is to levy fines and sanctions.

    Plus, many countries have set up mandated price fixing to ensure their citizens do not pay their share of the cost of producing the drugs in the first place. That leaves just this one to make up the difference.

    Someone has to pay for all that krapola. It's us, the U.S. consumer.

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  • OldE
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    It's probably hackable no less than credit card database, only you can't sell it like plastic so the motivation to hack is much weaker.
    Typical hacker may live half globe across the world , and who is he or she going to sell your med records to?

    The centralized electronic database, i would assume, exists since there is some way insurance companies get access to that information, and it affects your coverage if you have pre-existing condition

    I don't know what Obamacare is (the last i heard it had thousands of pages, with millions of regulations buried in it).

    If it provides coverage to those who can't be insured under current regulations, then i would support it. I believe there should be some boundaries set to jungle laws when applied to human society, and while i know that we are animals i don't think that by itself justifies willful stooping to the level of more primitive in the evolutionary ladder.

    But the biggest problem is the COST of health insurance EVEN if you are in EXCELLENT SHAPE AND HAVE NO RECORDED ILLNESSES.

    Why does it take $900 out of family of fours' paycheck to get 80% of coverage , which ends up making you pay $800-$900 for a routine hospital check, on top of paying monthly premiums of the same amount?

    If average income for majority of Americans is around $30k , then how one is supposed to live with what remains after health care deductions?

    Why the cost of insurance is so staggeringly high? It wasn't so just 10-15 years ago. It was VERY affordable, used to cost mere 20 bucks of deductions per week to get a full coverage with zero to $20 deductions.

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  • davdah
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    The reason it's not freely accessible is because of privacy. If a need exists, the record can be accessed in a short amount of time. To open all records to unchecked browsing by any supposed doctor would be an unacceptable invasion.

    Most hack jobs are caused by a careless user or malicious employee. It's very rare that someone is able to get into an even semi-secure system from the outside without being invited via a clicked on virus in an e-mail or something where a user on this side of the firewall doesn't do something stupid.

    The more open it is, like having any doctor be able to pull up any record, the more likely it is to be compromised. If nhs runs like that, it might as well be freely available to anyone who wants to take a peek. Then again, it probably is since meaningful privacy doesn't exist over there.

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  • Brit4064
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    We do already have electronic records but not in the form that the NHS does, ie. a national database accessible by any doctor or hospital who needs them.

    That privacy you talk about doesn't really exist. What's to stop somebody hacking your local doctor or hospital records? What happens when you open a bank account or credit card? Your financial information is held electronically and is hackable. Does that stop you from applying?

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  • davdah
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    We have electronic records as you must be aware. Most of it is stored digitally and is accessible but, there are restrictions to that access. What Obama wants to do is remove more of our privacy using this as a lame excuse. It's not the paper work in the way of better care. It's the lack of doctors which is a direct result of the limitation on the number admitted to med school.

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  • Brit4064
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    The NHS has had electronic records for some time and it works. What would you prefer? Paper records held by individual doctors and hospitals as we have here? Slow to retrieve when needed quickly potentially delaying life-saving treatment?

    NHS electronic records protect patients

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  • davdah
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    The truth, which the article also stated, was that it didn't matter whether you had insurance or not. What, is the obama-care card going to endow special head of the line privileges?

    So, abama-care is going to force the allotment of med school admissions to increase? That's what's needed to get more patients seen, not creating a bigger paperwork jungle. No, it won't. They'll do what government does best. Create a giant un-navigable expensive bureaucracy that produces minimal results.

    They might be labeled efficient in one regard. Expediting the demise of medically desperate patients.

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  • Brit4064
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    A benefit of "Obamacare" the likes of fedNUT and davdah don't want you to have (since they oppose it), electronic records will help prevent this situation from happening...

    For New Cancer Patients, It's Hard To Get Treatment
    Study finds many barriers to seeing an oncologist

    "Among reasons for denial of appointments or inability to schedule was demand for medical records, not being able to reach appropriate schedulers, and referral requirements."

    Consumeraffairs.com

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  • jennasalya
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    Its good example to know about free Healthcare System In massechusetts Still A Failure.

    Good idea to get to know to others about this.

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  • NO AMNESTY!!!
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    hey, primitive, smelly, ignorant, towel head 'brit', do you people have a health system in that $hithole where you come from? Tell us all about it so that we can have a good laugh.

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  • Brit4064
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    Another example of those kind, caring pharmaceutical drug companies which the likes of davdah and fedNUT naively believe have your best interests at heart, not their bottom line...

    FDA Pulls Diabetes Drug Avandia from Retail Sales
    The "blockbuster" drug has been linked with increased heart attack risk

    The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is putting new restrictions on the sale of the diabetes drug Avandia (rosiglitazone), used to treat Type 2 diabetes in millions of Americans, after years of consumer complaints, petitions and public appeals that it take action against the drug which many consumers say made their conditions worse rather than better.

    "During its use there was chest pain, shortness in breathing, itching, muscular weakness, fatigue and yellow color of skin and bone pain," said Sharma of Foley, Ala., who said the drug amounted to "[waste] of money to buy an early death." David of Ft. Myers, Fla., said he had a stress test after he stopped taking the drug and "the doctor pointed out had I still been on the drug I would have died! Wonderful eh?"

    Cover-up?

    In an article published in April 2010, The New York Times said it had obtained documents that show SmithKlineBeecham -- the firm's name in 1999 -- buried a disastrous study that suggested Avandia posed greater heart risks than a competing drug.

    As evidence of a smoking gun, the Times points to this 2001 email from Dr. Martin I. Freed, a GSK executive: "This was done for the U.S. business, way under the radar. Per Sr. Mgmt request, these data should not see the light of day to anyone outside of GSK," the email states.

    The Times report said the documents it uncovered demonstrated the company was sitting on incriminating data that surfaced soon after Avandia's introduction. In one document cited by the newspaper, GSK tried to add up the lost sales that would result if Avandia's heart safety risk became established. The document put the cost at $600 million over a two-year period.

    Consumeraffairs.com

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  • federale86
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    And how much of that went to immigrants? Alot.

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