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  • marmaduk
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    OMG....amnesty because they're afraid of china's population? Turn them into US army???
    ???

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  • jean2005
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    you are very low in brain cell immortale..I wish you know the power that drives amnesty...you dont know anything..Im not talking about small busnisess, im talking about the people that runs the unions, the chambers etc etc.im talking about the ones that are at the head of the largest righ companies in the U.S and elsewhere..Bush and vicentee fox made a deal years ago, and the elites are in for the deal..the elites will not lose and amnesty will pass.

    ALSO, REMEBER WHAT IM ABOUT TO SAY,

    BY 2010 CANADA, MEXICO AND THE U.S WILL BE ONE COUNTRY JUST LIKE THEY HAVE IT IN EUROPE WHERE EVERY EUROPEAN CITIZEN CAN WORK ANYWHERE INSIDE EUROPE...AMNESTY IS JUST A SMALL FRAGMENT OF WHATS TO COME.

    At the end of the day, i think amnesty will pass, either this year or next year.

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  • Antifascist1
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    the chamber, unions and religious groups are the elites that runs this country and in this case, they are all align fighting on the same side. Big bisnesses are behind this push to legalize those people and i doubt that they will accept enforcent only because it will killed their money flow and cause their businesses to go banrupt..Bush represent big bunisess with $$$$ you should know that...those guys run the U.S and if those guys want amnesty, then they will get amnesty.
    WHO DO YOU THINK ARE YOU FOOLING HERE?
    ME?
    I am not a fool.

    Since when the average Joe who wets his b a l l s working on roof (or running a small restaurant , owning a little shop or other busineess that relies on cheap labor), since then these guys became a BIG BUSINESS or ELITES????????????

    At least, when you make up a lie, have some respect for intelligence of your readers.

    Regards,
    IE

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  • jean2005
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    the chamber, unions and religious groups are the elites that runs this country and in this case, they are all align fighting on the same side. Big bisnesses are behind this push to legalize those people and i doubt that they will accept enforcement only because it will kill their money flow and cause their businesses to go bankrupt..Bush represent big busnisess with $$$$ you should know that...those guys run the U.S and if those guys want amnesty, then they will get amnesty.

    It is also a little dirty american secrets that says that the ELITES are the ones making sure that an amnesty passes congress once every 10 years because they are afraid of china population and huge army and they want to to pull as much people inside the US then turn them into citizen, then enact some kind of military draft that will mandate military services to all american citizens..This is because of the large chinese army and the diminish american army size

    You need to realaized that a lot of those lawmakers are being pressured by america's elite to defect tancredo's anti immigraTION stance because it will killed their money flow and money is whats matter to them, not the american's public sentiment...

    A lot of money was put into the big rallies that you are seeing nation wide, and do you really beleive that its ordinary people pushing for those rallies? the answer is no, there are very powerfull people involve in this debate and they see this as a big issue to them.

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  • Antifascist1
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    BTW, I don't beleive a MYTH that it's ELITES vs. American Public issue.

    ELITES have nothing to gain from illegal immigrants.
    ELITES run multibillion corporations, hire highly skilled workers (if they happen to be in US), or simply move to Asia if they need a cheap labor for production of goods.

    It is in FACT NOT ELITES who need illegals most of all, but it is a small business owners and average Joes (roofing contractors, store owners, service employers, restaurant owners) who need and rely on cheap labor most of all.

    It is just ironic, as well as a testament to Noblility and Wisdom of ELITES that they support the interests - not of their own - but that of average people.

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  • Antifascist1
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    Aliba,
    write your Reps and suggest that they build brick ovens instead of felonizing Good Samaritans.
    Just turn the flesh of those unworthy illegals into something more useful, like heat. Or soap, at least.

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  • jean2005
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    One thing that i will say is the elites in this country will not allow enforcement-only to ever pass because they know it will destroy it..The elites are the ones that run this country, not the american public's sentiment, so even if you have american public wanting enforcement only, the elites will never agree to it because they have facts that the american public might not have.

    I would also state that those elite member are the one behind the huge rallies and others stuff..in other word, if those guys think that amnesty is what is to occur, then amnesty will occur.

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  • AliBA
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    Except their largest and most fervent constituency is illegal aliens, Jean, which is precisely why they want them legalized. You've never heard the term, "silent majority", have you? That's what wins elections. The parties with vested interests always scream loudest precisely because they have so much to lose, but there are a lot of people out there watching these marches on TV or reading about them in the paper or on the internet, and where they didn't care before, they are now, and are offended by the display of people who are illegally here demanding "rights" when they haven't even the right to be here. I wonder how that picture of the Mexican flag being flown over an upside down American flag at a school in California is going down for denizens of the internet?

    There is nothing that says that felony provisions for some could not be negotiated back into the reconciliation bill. It depends on what people are willing to trade.

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  • Antifascist1
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    antifascits, why dont you zip your mouth with your carp$ about field force...

    Why are you angry with me?
    For stating facts?
    I support sensible, comprehensive immigration reform, but it doesn't mean that I have to lie and say it will pass through House this or even next year, while I personally beleive that it won't.

    Regards,
    IE

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  • jean2005
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    antifascits, why dont you zip your mouth with your carp$ about field force...This is not about all of those ****$ you are talking about...This is about numbers and it will always be about numbers.....Right now, they are strong support for the pro immigration groups with the religious group pushing very hard to make sure their large constituency understand what an enforcement-only bill means.

    All the millions of people that demonstrated against the House'S bill, has officially killed it..Everyone agrees that the large rallies was a huge blow to H.R4437, so how can you still continue to run off your mouth about enforcement only being enacted when you have the d-a-m-a house republican leader saying he's willing to make compromises?

    I predict a comprehensive bill before july or after the election, when no one will have to worry about re election bids...Remember the lawmakers that are worried about people voting against them because they voted for comprehensive bill, will also have to worry about voting for enforcement-only and risk the chance of the unions, chambers and the largest growing block(hispanic) stopping all cash flow to their re elections bids.

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  • Antifascist1
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    Cornyn-Kyl version seems reasonable, with very narrow exceptions offered under Sens. Brownback and Specter.

    That kind of "Guest Worker" program has enough support (in terms of NUMBERS) in the House.
    But, again, it's all about "FIELD IN THE AIR", and not just a matter of numbers.
    Meaning, I don't envision a possibility of ANY Guest-Worker program making past the House this or even the next year.

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  • AliBA
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    Ah, but what "guest worker" program would these guys vote for, AF? That is the question. There is no one guest worker program. That could be anything from the McCain-Kennedy amnesty to Cornyn-Kyl, or something that isn't even on the table yet. When POLLING you need to be sure that you give the respondents a common frame of reference. Guest worker program means different things to different people.

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  • Antifascist1
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    I said number of times that this is not a matter of NUMBERS , but of perceived force, FIELD behind one or another cause.

    If you look strictly at numbers, then consider this:

    1. Most Democrats (out of 36) were pushed to vote for Sesenbrenner against their will, by their Democratic leaders , so that their votes on HR4437 wouldn't be used against them during November in most contentious districts.

    2. A lot more than 17 Republican Reps. (including those who voted for Sesenbrenner Bill) admitted that they would vote for Guest Worker program if it was part of HR4437.

    Strictly speaking , there are enough, more than half House Reps to pass the Guest Worker program, but the "FIELD IN THE AIR" is what carries the day.

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  • jean2005
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    marmaduck, are you aware that pelosi and other house democratic leader told a handfull of house democrat to go ahead and vote for the bill since it had no chance of passing the senate?? this is a fact, and if you want, ill look for the d-a-m-n article for you.

    Believe me when i say this, the democrats are laughitng are the republicans because there is a deep split among their base when it comes to immigration..You have the president , who's a republican, telling republican to vote for the guest worker program, whyle you have tancredo who's also a republican, telling his base to vote against it...Democrats doesnt have such issues and all they have to do is just sit down and watch them arguing whyle they laught.

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  • marmaduk
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    There're 36 Democrat Reps that support the Sensenbrenner's bill and 17 Republican Reps that oppose it.
    Who's having what problem now??

    Just wait and see what'll happen. Its all that everyone in here can do...unless there's a congress member among us??

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