The Immigration Debate: SuperNews!

[BoardWizard]

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THIS WEEK, millions of Americans will buy gifts and goods they don’t need and never really wanted. A new piano looks pretty fine at half-price. That’s the beauty of Black Friday, our post-Thanksgiving credit card workout. Supported by a marketing campaign that links shopping to the Pilgrims, Black Friday urges us to buy because it’s the American thing to do. But many will wake up Saturday with a lot of remorse. Read more here

[BoardWizard]

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THIS WEEK, millions of Americans will buy gifts and goods they don’t need and never really wanted. A new piano looks pretty fine at half-price. That’s the beauty of Black Friday, our post-Thanksgiving credit card workout. Supported by a marketing campaign that links shopping to the Pilgrims, Black Friday urges us to buy because it’s the American thing to do. But many will wake up Saturday with a lot of remorse. Read more here

[davdah]

The gifts bought are supposed to be for others, not yourself. If a person is remorseful the day after buying something for another person, theirs is a sad lot. They must be democrats since they used their own money.

[Brit4064]

So according to davdah, Republicans use other peoples money to buy presents for their loved ones. Nice one davadah

[Someone12]

I know....let's all chip in and buy one way airline tickets...one for each lowlife illegal alien....and ship them first class back to their own country for the holidays(and more!)....Merry Xmas and adios....

[kunduriver]

Did not serve n*****s means ,self service.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brit4064:
So according to davdah, Republicans use other peoples money to buy presents for their loved ones. Nice one davadah </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[davdah]

Brit, when will you learn to read? Try again. Point was, Dems are only happy spending other people's money. When it's their own, that's when excuses and remorse kicks in. Reps, as a matter of fact, are documented as being the most generous, with their OWN money. Check donation statistics.

See, S12 is ok with letting illegals go back home first class. Now, how's that for holiday spirit.

[kunduriver]

What about conditional residents??
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THIS WEEK, millions of Americans will buy gifts and goods they don’t need and never really wanted. A new piano looks pretty fine at half-price. That’s the beauty of Black Friday, our post-Thanksgiving credit card workout. Supported by a marketing campaign that links shopping to the Pilgrims, Black Friday urges us to buy because it’s the American thing to do. But many will wake up Saturday with a lot of remorse. Read more here </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Brit4064]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Reps, as a matter of fact, are documented as being the most generous, with their OWN money. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes davdah. On the face of it that appears to be correct HOWEVER you conveniently forget to mention that many charitable Republicans are likely giving to churches and religious organizations which may or may not be helping those in need, ie. money for building a new megachurch and lining the pockets of TV evangelists. Take out the religious factor and its more even.

[davdah]

Brit, the 'mega churchs' as you put it account for less than 1/10 of 1%. Not only that, the usual path to their instantaneous size are large single donations. The cost of upkeep and ongoing costs are minimal since most who work in a church do it as voluntary service.

Most charitable organizations have a religious tone to them because it's part and parcel the faith and those involved are acting on it. Something your average godless heathen democrat wouldn't understand but that's how it works.

Ipers, it's time to step out of wonder land into reality.

[Brit4064]

Oh yes and one other thing about donations..they are often tax deductible. Republicans love giving and making money off donations

[davdah]

If you paid any taxes you might realize that you get a reduction based on what's contributed. It's nowhere near the amount gifted. If you donate 10k you may realize a tax reduction of about 1k. Hardly a way to make money. Have you thought about why it's a tax deduction? It's an incentive to give. I know, something else the dems are ignorant of, giving of themselves and not plundering another person's money.

[Brit4064]

Yes davdah, I do pay taxes and I do contribute to charity from time to time. How presumptuous of you to think otherwise. That said, it doesn't mean I would like to see healthcare for the poor and for those who insurance companies won't cover for example being a charitable-only cause the way some in the Republican party would like. We've moved on a bit since the 1950s.

[davdah]

So, you're in the upper 50% of income earners? If not, then you have a net zero tax burden.

Beside that, there already exists state and federal run programs to cater to those insurance companies won't take or that can't afford insurance.

We don't need the government to step in and take over the entire sector. That will be a disaster of monumental scale. What needs to be done is force the freeloading countries who've dumped their medical liabilities on our doorstep to foot their own expenses. When you make things artificially cheap for one, the cost is taken up by another. The overall price can't be lowered. That is fixed. R&D isn't free and companies won't take the risk of spending millions developing life saving medicines to recoup nothing. If government steps in and assimilates that, no one will be motivated to do anything beyond the minimum to keep their government job and progress will cease.

The problem isn't that there isn't enough government over site. The problems that exist are rooted in and the result of government intervention.

[Brit4064]

Same old davdah. I'd like to see how I have a "net zero tax burden" LOL That implies I pay no taxes. Wrong. The only lot that pay little to no taxes are the top 1%. The rest of us 99ers pay their taxes for them or at least that's how the "progressive" far-Right Repubs would like (for progressive read regressive).

As for your outburst on the "freeloading countries", you are completely nuts. We've been through this before. Your view is an extreme one and I've yet to find somebody else that shares it. You must be related to Sharron "run from my own press conference" Angle LOL