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  • Details of Immigration bill in senate...........

    Who can give me details of three categorey people who will be benefited from the Bill? and what are all those waiver available?

    Thanks

    zozo

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    Who can give me details of three categorey people who will be benefited from the Bill? and what are all those waiver available?

    Thanks

    zozo

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    • #3
      The is a wide range of people who will benefit from the Senate version of immigration bill:
      1. All people in the world
      2. Americans
      3. Mexicans
      4. American employers
      5. Illegal immigrants:
      a. those who have been in the country for more than 5 years from April, 2001 will get green cards
      b. those who have been in the country from 2 to 5 years will get guest worker status and will have to deport and reenter the US.

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      • #4
        This bill has zero chance of becoming law. Therefore, the winners will be the American people...whose views will prevail on this issue.

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        • #5
          Don't forget that this bill was created by American people and will be approved by American Senate....

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          • #6
            The U.S. Senate is only one chamber of the Congress. The House of Representatives is intent on passing an enforcement-only bill...and rejects the Senate's amnesty proposal and its pandering to illegal aliens.

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            • #7
              If no immigration reform is passed this year, then the American people nor the undocumented will benefit.

              Who knows when Congress will again have the guts to bring immigration to the floor.

              In the mean time, everything goes back like it has been for the past 20 years or so.

              My .02 cents.

              Freedom1

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              • #8
                Freedom1


                says:

                "If no immigration reform is passed this year, then the American people nor the undocumented will benefit."

                Oh Please do tell and enlighten all of us as to how the american people will benefit.

                and it sounds like you think that if everything REMAINS status quo that it is something bad????
                (u say goes back to )

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                • #9
                  This bill was not "crafted" by or for the American people. It was designed specifically for corporate interests who will have unlimited numbers of "guest workers", as well as amnesty for having violated our employment laws. The best bill money can buy.

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                  • #10
                    If we maintain the status quo:

                    We don't get millions of newly legalized illegal aliens, who would then be entitled to bring millions more family members.

                    We don't get newly legalized illegal aliens who, as working poor, would be eligible for even more social services and welfare benefits.

                    We don't get a massive new "guest worker" program and yet more competition for jobs, driving down wages and household incomes even more.

                    We don't get an amnesty which attracts even more illegal aliens, who think they're going to get in on it.

                    We don't get border and interior enforcement, but then, do we really believe we'd get that anyway, no matter what's in this bill?!

                    Employers, on the other hand, get to keep and abuse their illegal aliens, which I'm sure the employers would prefer, over the possibility that enforcement provisions in this bill would actually be enforced.

                    We consumers get to keep getting all those cheap goods and services illegal immigration advocates claim we get.

                    Neither political party has to shoulder the responsibility for the passage of it, which is likely to alienate more voters than the failure will. A failed bill and its provisions will fade from memory quickly. One that's passed will stay in the news and public consciousness through the elections.

                    Now, what BENEFITS do AMERICANS in general get from passage of the bill as is?

                    Security? But then, you'd have to admit that at least some illegal aliens likely ARE terrorists. Not to mention the impracticality of doing background and security checks on maybe as many as 20 million people.

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                    • #11
                      The truth is that this bill will help few, if anybody, and will cause more headaches than anything else. The Kyl amendment says it all when it comes to the true spirit of the bill.
                      We will go back to the times when prejudice and unfounded accusations were used against people, the times before the statutes of limitations, federal rules of evidence and the opinion in Marion.
                      Under this bill, anybody can be accused of a "serious crime" by confidential information. In other words, the individual will never get to see any evidence of the alleged crimes but trust the government, the evidence is there. Also, anything can be a "serious crime", even speeding is a serious crime if there's one person who believes the alien has a tendency to engage in "high speed flight" or whatever other theory they may come up with. There's no definition of a "serious crime", no parameters, nothing to go by. Even a judge in family court will instruct a minor that "any crime is serious" so you go figure.
                      In the criminal system, the more "serious" crimes are categorized as felonies because they're punished by longer sentences and usually include statutory minimums. But this is clearly NOT what the amendment says. If there's already a bar to all who commit a felony, why the "serious crime" ground? Clearly, this new ground is related to misdemeanors, otherwise it would make no sense to include it.
                      Also, no restrictions for misdemeanors either, all misdemeanors will weight the same when it comes to ineligibility. Three traffic tickets and you're ineligible.
                      This will create a system based on prejudice, not justice; a system that ignores the principals of common law when it comes to criminal activity.

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                      • #12
                        The truth is that this bill will help few, if anybody, and will cause more headaches than anything else.
                        This guy sounds like a hack for those who oppose Comprehensive Immigration Reform

                        But don't worry, Houston, Guest Worker program won't pass this year, thanks to efforst of those who share your intentions.

                        Instead huge ,full amnesty will - few years from now.

                        Regards,
                        IE

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                        • #13
                          You can call me whatever you want, but the fact remains. If the bill is intended to HELP people then why this riduculous and reduntant provision?
                          I would like to see real reform, not some bill that will help very few individuals, one based on prejudice, one that ignores judicial history.

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                          • #14
                            If the bill is intended to HELP people then why this riduculous and reduntant provision?
                            Even AS IS, the Senate Bill is already facing very stiff opposition in the House and is likely to be radically modified or killed (either stripped of Guest Worker provisions for undocumented workers during House-Senate conference or else thrown aside for the next couple of years).

                            Now how on Earth would you expect the Senate Bill to be better accepted by current House and survive, if it was just as you claim you wish it was?

                            As bi-partisan Senate Bill stands now, the House is in position to reject very rational and "middle ground" Bill with as much compromise as conceivable at present time.

                            It would be so much easier for the House to argue against Senate Bill and reject it (with much broader public support) IF Senate Bill was exactly what Senator Kennedy wanted it to be.


                            Regards,

                            IE

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                            • #15
                              So the argument is, since the House passed a mean-spirited, legally flawed bill the Senate should also come up with a poor alternative, but somewhat less mediocre so it can be passed? And here I thought that the concern was not to pass anything, but to pass a bill a that is effective and one that makes sense.
                              We're talking a system that will regard 3 traffic tickets as a bar to adjustment. This is not "comprehensive" when the talk relates to finding a "realistic" approach based on "compassion" and the "rule of law". The rule of law? Ignoring the federal rules of evidence, statute of limitations, the common-law presumption of innocence and the constitutional right to a jury trial to adjudicate guilt is following the "rule of law"? Even the definition of a conviction under INA only considers judicial adjudications of guilt but not an approach based on some "confidential" evidence the alien can't rebut, not an approach that establishes no clear standard to limit the application of a statute. Compassion? Separating a family because of a few traffic citations? The alien was not wearing the seatbelt, he or she is a threat to society... Is this "comprehensive"?

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