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    Millions of illegals here and crops rotting in the field. So much for filling the "jobs Americans supposedly will not do."

    I have a sneaking suspicion they make more on welfare. They come pregnant, go to the nearest county health office, automatically get free medical, free HUD housing, free WIC, free AFDC, a Lone Star card, and welfare money for that anchor baby.

    Let's see now----there are now maybe ten million,maybe twenty million(or more) illegal aliens for slave labor in The United States of America and the poor farmers(like the poor folks who run the lethal, E.coli spinach operation---these poor down down-trodden,dirt poor farmers live in a shanty(LOL) in very upscale Carmel, California) want more Mexican slaves because the illegal aliens who are in the U.S.A. are taking jobs away from middle class America---WHERE DOES THIS INVASION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA END????? This President and seventy-one U.S. Senators by their actions are hell bent on destroying middle class America. Can they be stopped---or---will middle class America feel a boot heel on the back of their neck,,,,just like the destitute,desperate Mexican slaves are now feeling. (You poor down-trodden,dirt farmers in your Carmel mansions!!!!)

    This is yet another example of what happens when the laws aren't strictly enforced across the board. Those who have become dependent upon the violations are now playing "VICTIM?". Just how insane are these people. Americans are very tired of paying the billions and billions of dollars simply because they don't want to raise wages and hire Americans at a liveable wage. It is costing this nation a huge amount of money, so they can be cheap and think they got one over on the government, the taxpaying US citizens etc. It would be different if these people went home after the growing seasons were over like they used to, but they don't. They just disappear into the sea of other illegals. When there are 20 - 30 million people or more we know nothing about, wandering around our nation it seems like the last thing we need is a few more of them.

    When it comes to expenses, look at the study done by the nonprofit Institute for Health and Socio-Economic Policy for the California Nurses Association. They have a list of the 100 most expensive hospitals in the nation. I was checking out the rates for the areas with the most illegals and will give information for Las Vegas, simply because 40% of behind the scenes people working in the casino industries are illegals. People come here get drunk, get arrested a lot, get in accidents and I am certain they never check on what their health insurance will cover in places they travel to and whether the trip to Vegas will cost them more than just what they lose in the one armed bandits.

    LV hospitals billed patients and insurers as much as 5 times their actual costs. Nevada ranked 6th in the nation for the markup charged for medical care with the average markup being 278%. The national average, by the way is 232%. Nevada ranked 3rd among the states for its operating room markup, and California and Florida ranked first and second. California and Florida are two of the most important agricultural states in our nation. Nevada ranked 3rd for its pharmaceutical markups. In Nevada, hospitals are required by state law to offer a 30% discount to uninsured patients, but many are not able to pay the amount out of pocket.

    Costs are going up because of illegals using the emergency departments like their own walk-in free clinics, but lets just import a few more illegals so the rest of us are charged more and more to cover the costs of THEIR procedures--not just ours. Harry Reid, minority leader of the democratic party, has been an open borders proponent and has wanted every HB visa plan that has been presented in his entire career. It is so called leaders like him that we have to watch out for because the are selling us all down the river of increased taxes and increased charges.

    Agriculture is doing the same when they keep the need for cheap labor coming into this country. Many of them hire coyotes of their own to get their employees or go to Third World countries to hand pick them. Personally, I don't want these people with any ability to touch our food sources. They have not had the health screenings they need and there are a lot of very contagious parasitic diseases that have no testing systems established. It is so foolish to not consider that the end result of this stupidity is death and it won't be death to the growers who just can't raise wages. It is death to their customers and that makes no sense to me to risk killing off your customers. The e-coli spinach fiasco more than proved that there is a problem in the agricultural system. Maybe US citizens need to stop buying wine, if it is so difficult for this industry to get their grapes picked by Americans. Maybe we should just show them what its like to have their grapes die on the vine. After all, when they don't hire legal American agricultural workers, that is what they are doing to them. Turn about is fair play.

    Also, you know what thing I try to figure out is how they can let these unskilled people work on building our houses and office buildings? I thought you had to be bonded for consturction work to cover screwups? Somehow I don't think illegal aliens can get bonded. The next time I have a house build it will be in my contract that only legal labor can be used. If they want my business they will agree to it and I'll be out there everyday during building to verify it.


    Infuriated,

    Still Trash
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    Millions of illegals here and crops rotting in the field. So much for filling the "jobs Americans supposedly will not do."

    I have a sneaking suspicion they make more on welfare. They come pregnant, go to the nearest county health office, automatically get free medical, free HUD housing, free WIC, free AFDC, a Lone Star card, and welfare money for that anchor baby.

    Let's see now----there are now maybe ten million,maybe twenty million(or more) illegal aliens for slave labor in The United States of America and the poor farmers(like the poor folks who run the lethal, E.coli spinach operation---these poor down down-trodden,dirt poor farmers live in a shanty(LOL) in very upscale Carmel, California) want more Mexican slaves because the illegal aliens who are in the U.S.A. are taking jobs away from middle class America---WHERE DOES THIS INVASION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA END????? This President and seventy-one U.S. Senators by their actions are hell bent on destroying middle class America. Can they be stopped---or---will middle class America feel a boot heel on the back of their neck,,,,just like the destitute,desperate Mexican slaves are now feeling. (You poor down-trodden,dirt farmers in your Carmel mansions!!!!)

    This is yet another example of what happens when the laws aren't strictly enforced across the board. Those who have become dependent upon the violations are now playing "VICTIM?". Just how insane are these people. Americans are very tired of paying the billions and billions of dollars simply because they don't want to raise wages and hire Americans at a liveable wage. It is costing this nation a huge amount of money, so they can be cheap and think they got one over on the government, the taxpaying US citizens etc. It would be different if these people went home after the growing seasons were over like they used to, but they don't. They just disappear into the sea of other illegals. When there are 20 - 30 million people or more we know nothing about, wandering around our nation it seems like the last thing we need is a few more of them.

    When it comes to expenses, look at the study done by the nonprofit Institute for Health and Socio-Economic Policy for the California Nurses Association. They have a list of the 100 most expensive hospitals in the nation. I was checking out the rates for the areas with the most illegals and will give information for Las Vegas, simply because 40% of behind the scenes people working in the casino industries are illegals. People come here get drunk, get arrested a lot, get in accidents and I am certain they never check on what their health insurance will cover in places they travel to and whether the trip to Vegas will cost them more than just what they lose in the one armed bandits.

    LV hospitals billed patients and insurers as much as 5 times their actual costs. Nevada ranked 6th in the nation for the markup charged for medical care with the average markup being 278%. The national average, by the way is 232%. Nevada ranked 3rd among the states for its operating room markup, and California and Florida ranked first and second. California and Florida are two of the most important agricultural states in our nation. Nevada ranked 3rd for its pharmaceutical markups. In Nevada, hospitals are required by state law to offer a 30% discount to uninsured patients, but many are not able to pay the amount out of pocket.

    Costs are going up because of illegals using the emergency departments like their own walk-in free clinics, but lets just import a few more illegals so the rest of us are charged more and more to cover the costs of THEIR procedures--not just ours. Harry Reid, minority leader of the democratic party, has been an open borders proponent and has wanted every HB visa plan that has been presented in his entire career. It is so called leaders like him that we have to watch out for because the are selling us all down the river of increased taxes and increased charges.

    Agriculture is doing the same when they keep the need for cheap labor coming into this country. Many of them hire coyotes of their own to get their employees or go to Third World countries to hand pick them. Personally, I don't want these people with any ability to touch our food sources. They have not had the health screenings they need and there are a lot of very contagious parasitic diseases that have no testing systems established. It is so foolish to not consider that the end result of this stupidity is death and it won't be death to the growers who just can't raise wages. It is death to their customers and that makes no sense to me to risk killing off your customers. The e-coli spinach fiasco more than proved that there is a problem in the agricultural system. Maybe US citizens need to stop buying wine, if it is so difficult for this industry to get their grapes picked by Americans. Maybe we should just show them what its like to have their grapes die on the vine. After all, when they don't hire legal American agricultural workers, that is what they are doing to them. Turn about is fair play.

    Also, you know what thing I try to figure out is how they can let these unskilled people work on building our houses and office buildings? I thought you had to be bonded for consturction work to cover screwups? Somehow I don't think illegal aliens can get bonded. The next time I have a house build it will be in my contract that only legal labor can be used. If they want my business they will agree to it and I'll be out there everyday during building to verify it.


    Infuriated,

    Still Trash
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    • #3
      still you must live a miserable life, see my wife is trying to become an american, she has health insurance, i pay for it, she works , pays taxes, im proud of my legal alien wife


      USN CHIEF PETTY OFFICER RETIRED

      PS GET A LIFE STILL

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      • #4
        You are the miserable one because you are a dirtbag supporter by virtue of supporting your wife who no doubt is the dirtbag herself !
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        • #5
          I do not support you at all that all illegals are dirtbags. Let's take for example people who come from Cuba illegally. Are they all dirtbags? No! They, who come in the USA come for a better life to escape from the totalitarin regime of Castro. You do not know what is to live in a country where you do not have freedom of speech. You might say they have to come legally. This is crazy. How? DO you think the embassy is going to open the doors and will issue to people visa? Never! In 10 or 12 millions illegal in USA are not only hispanic, there are also from all over the world almost (not inluding very developed countries).

          I know a case where a 60 year old american man went to Russia to marry a Russian woman. They got married. Later the Russian lady left him , filed a report to the police station that her American husband was abusing her demanding *** everyday and everynight by force.She went to woman's shelter and she got the green card and her husband lost the case. Can we say she was a dirtbag? How about the American guy for whom was the third marriage? So, my point is you can not put all illegals into the same sack as there are also legals who are dirtbags too.

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          • #6
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            • #7
              If all illegals are criminlas then so are all the parking or traffic law violators.
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              • #8
                All ILLEGALS are criminals,why???
                well, you only have to answer why to those with no education and no I.Q really.
                Its within the word,if you are ILLEGALLY inside a country you are a criminal,which is a federal offense.Some people take that easy on their shoulder not knowing what position they are actually in.Regardless what your opinion is,fact is,if you are Illegally in a country,regardless what country,you broke the law,by breaking a law like that,you are a criminal.PERIOD!
                and what was that "If all illegals are criminlas then so are all the parking or traffic law violators "
                this is a typically ignorant comment i can't even laugh about, its soo sad and stupid.****!

                How can you conmpare traffic violation,with someone who is inside a NATION illegally???Thats federal offense.Parking ticket,speeding ticket is not a federal offense,Gosh.This is getting pathetic.

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                • #9
                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">If all illegals are criminlas then so are all the parking or traffic law violators. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  Another illegal ignorant dirtbag !
                  You moron, how on earth can you compare parking and traffic law violators to administrative immigration law violations !

                  Since the latter committed mostly by wild animals (as opposed to minor traffic violations, where mostly Human beings such as myself involved), I thereby can assure anyone that animals are criminals no matter what the law says - at very least by virtue of belonging to lower category of species (along with banana eating Apes and other lower level species on Darwinian ladder).

                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">In my opinion Still Trash is just that, trash, a dirtbag himself... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  Says who?

                  Yeah, just "another" ignorant, arrogant, miseducated, stupid, d.umba$$ illegal dirtbag !

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                  • #10
                    Why don't you get a life? It seems like you don't have anything to do other than to talk trash. If you hate immigrants so much why waste your time on an "Immigration board" does that ring a bell you idiot. You keep on responding to the threads where people are looking for real help not your prejudice opinions or remarks. I would like to know one reason why you log in to this forum where is obvious people are not looking for ****s like you responding their questions. I'm pretty sure there's plenty of websites that are against immigrants so why don't you take your lazy *** there and stop wasting people's time here. GET A LIFE YOU SCUM BAG!!!!!!!!!! Don't think you're superior or any better than anybody else here since you are "American" why because you came out of your mother's ***** in the US soil, you make me sick.

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                    • #11
                      You all good citizens, ignore this idiot, he has no job, nothing to do, look at the time he is posting, HE is a stay at home MOM, hahaha, lets forget about him since he hates the illegals or even immigrants on the whole who pays tax, so he can get a welfare check, he needs to get a life, and who the hell know who he is anyway, he could be an illegal alien himself, trying to get attention, go away you scum bag stilltrash, you will always be trash.
                      "If there is anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all things are possible, who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in our time, who still questions the power of our democracy, tonight is your answer." -US Pr

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                      • #12
                        My advice to "still trash" is to get a job at the CIS, and deport as may aliens as possible. Don't even listen to there cases. Maybe you'll get lucky, and deport the next Albert Einstein.

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                        • #13
                          Gigi said "If you hate immigrants so much why waste your time on an "Immigration board"

                          Now,if you would read the full sentences of each line,you would have known,this is not about IMMIGIGRANTS, we are talking about ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS...a big big difference.Seems like you are one of the ignorant people who dont get or realize the difference.

                          No one ever in this forum talked down legal, immigration...but Illegal Immigration,Yes.And thats the whole point.

                          Read the subject of this topic again and each sentence,before you write somehting down.
                          This was about Illegals!!!

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                          • #14
                            АЙ И, если наши возьмут senate and house,
                            когда нас с тобой амнистируют?

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                            • #15
                              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jasmin:
                              Welcome to Fascist America!

                              My fellow Americans, it's official now: We live in a fascist nation.

                              Now, the term "fascist" has been thrown around over the last fifty years in a loose way that has drained it of much of its meaning. If someone wanted to cut 5% off of a leftist professor's favourite welfare programme, the professor would call his opponent a "fascist." I'm not using the word like that. I mean honest-to-goodness, old-fashioned, 1930s style fascism, featuring such old favourites as:

                              * Secret prisons – they're back!
                              * Torture – we're doing it.
                              * Spying on all citizens.
                              * Arrests and indefinite imprisonment without trial.
                              * Rampant militarism.
                              * Secret detention.
                              * Enforced disappearance.
                              * Denial and restriction of habeas corpus.
                              * Prolonged incommunicado detention.
                              * Unfair trial procedures.

                              (This list was compiled partially based on the work of Amnesty International, available here.)

                              An absolutely mind-numbing response to complaints that our traditional legal system is being torn apart is the question, "So, you want to protect the rights of terrorists?"

                              Um, no, I want to protect the rights of non-terrorists who might be falsely accused of terrorism! That was sort of, you know, the whole idea of our legal system. I'm sure there was some neo-con around in the 1700s saying to Jefferson or Madison, "So, you want to protect the rights of murderers and robbers?" but luckily they ignored him.

                              We've now gotten to the point where Nazi Germany was, say, in 1934. Remember, at that time, if you had told a typical German what his government would do over the next ten years, he would have looked at you as a madman. After all, his land had been civilized for over a thousand years. His was the nation of Albertus Magnus, Gutenberg, Goethe, Schiller, Beethoven, Bach, Kant, Hegel, Schelling, Fichte, Heisenberg, Reimann, Mann, Lessing, Herder, Handel, Dürer, Leibniz, Gauss, Helmholtz – he could have gone on, but you get the point. His nation could not possibly descend into barbarism! If you tried to tell him he was living in a police state, he would have pointed out that his government had used its vast new powers very judiciously, and only against a few trouble-makers. So far.

                              It is interesting, in gauging the direction we are heading, to look at the proclamations of "respectable" opinion writers who support this administration. For instance, we have people at a "libertarian" think tank proclaiming that Moslems are not entitled to full civil rights in the US. (Perhaps we need to make them wear something special on their clothing like, say, a yellow star, so we know just who they are, hey?) But "conservatives" provide even more stunning examples of purely fascist reasoning. For example, conservative demagogue Ann Coulter has called for the editor of The NY Times to face the firing squad for his part in publicizing this administration's abuses of power. Let's look at a recent column by Douglas MacKinnon at TownHall.com.

                              MacKinnon considers all of those involved in revealing the sordid collection of secret programmes that have been launched by the Bush administration as "traitors" who have publicized these schemes "purely because they don't like the policies of the new president." Well, he's right in that "they don't like the policies" that they consider unconstitutional violations of our rights. Far from "aiding the enemy," these revelations aided us, the American people, by letting us know what our government has in store for us.

                              Consider what the point of classifying these programmes was in the first place, and who they were being kept secret from. The jihadists no doubt already knew about the secret prisons – their friends are in them! They surely knew that the war in Iraq has been helping their recruiting – it's their recruiting! ("Praise be to Allah, Abdul, I read in The NY Times that it is the Iraq War that is sending us these thousands of new recruits – who knew?") They no doubt suspect they may be wiretapped – what they didn't know was that all the rest of us are, as well. No, not one of these leaks helps terrorists, nor was one of them classified to stop terrorists from finding them out. We were the ones who weren't supposed to find out about them.

                              MacKinnon continues: "And if even one American lost his or her life because of a leak, then I would want that person to be executed for treason."

                              So anyone who reveals our fascist government policies is a traitor who can be executed! This is obviously an attempt to intimidate the opposition so that our police state can be expanded without the annoying work stoppages caused by public outcry when the latest bit of construction is revealed. And just how does MacKinnon propose to show that some American lost his life because a journalist revealed that the US government tortures people across the globe, rather than, say, because the policies he supports have inspired a million new jihadists? Secret trial, perhaps? Or why even bother with trials for filthy traitors?

                              Herr Goebbels – oops, I mean MacKinnon – writes, "Until we severely punish those who leak classified information, then the traitors among us will not only continue to flourish, but will grow more brazen with the secrets they reveal."

                              Yes, what we ought to be able to do, you know, is simply seize anyone who even mentions our government's "secret" prisons, and, without a trial, throw them in a secret prison! This is the logical conclusion of this fascist's article, after all, since those who talk about the American Gulag are pretty much terrorists themselves.

                              Folks, this is coming real soon, and, once it does, domestic opposition is pretty much over. One journalist – that will be about all it takes – will be seized as a "terrorist" and thrown in the Gulag. The government may release him, but then another will simply disappear in the night in Iraq or Afghanistan, and rumors will circulate that he is being kept in a cage somewhere and waterboarded. No journalist lacking heroic courage will any longer be willing to seriously protest government policy.

                              America is full of decent people, who could never believe their own government could become fascist. So were Germany and Italy in the 1920s. But they became fascist anyway. They passed laws suspending civil liberties, but the government promised the frightened populace that those laws would only be used against targets like "Communist terrorists." And, a little bit at a time, the target kept getting bigger and bigger, slowly enough that the people who weren't paying close attention never detected it.

                              And, next thing you know, there were millions of people dead! So, it turns out, it would have been worth paying attention after all.

                              http://www.lewrockwell.com/callahan/callahan160.html </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                              You do realize Jasmin that the Ludwig Von Mises Institute is a extremely right-wing (read extremist Libertarian) think tank that is essentially anarchist, anti-Federal Reserve (fiat currency), Anti-tax of any form (sales, propery, income, excise, etc), and pro neo-Confederacy themes. Why don't you take a look at articles written by Chip Berlet, Thomas DiLorenzo, and Donald Livingston. Furthermore, if you argue that this is a Fascist state, then so was the Union during the time of President Lincoln
                              "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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