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[Brit4064]

11 killed, plus gunman, in Fort Hood shootings

Eleven people plus a gunman were dead and 31 wounded after the gunman opened fire Thursday on a soldier-processing center at Fort Hood, Texas, officials said.

The gunman was a soldier, and two other soldiers have been detained as suspects, Army Lt. Gen. Bob Cone said.

The slain gunman was Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan, according to a law enforcement source. The source believes he is 39 or 40 years old.

Ten of the other dead also were soldiers, while the remaining one was a civilian police officer who was working as a contractor on the base, Cone said.

Two of the injured were in "very serious" condition, Fort Hood spokesman Christopher Hogue said.

Watch developments live

More than one shooter may have been involved, Cone said.

CNN story

I believe the latest body count is now 12 killed. I'm sure we'd all like to give condolences to those injured or killed and the families involved.

[ProudUSC]

How awful!!! I wish there was a way to round up all these lunatic criminals and be done with them once and for all!!!! (One in VA is going down next week if the Supreme Court doesn't overturn the sentence).

Prayers to the families and friends of the victims.

[ProudUSC]

This is so appalling.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/11/...ls.mosque/index.html

Peaceful preaching inside, violent message outside a New York mosque

By Drew Griffin and Kathleen Johnston, CNN
November 5, 2009 3:24 p.m. EST


New York (CNN) -- Outside a Manhattan mosque where the imam preaches against terrorism, the brothers of the "Revolution Muslim" are spreading a different message.

Protected by the Constitution of the country they detest, radical Muslim converts like Yousef al-Khattab and Younes Abdullah Mohammed preach that the killing of U.S. troops overseas is justified. In their thinking, so were the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States -- and so are attacks on almost any American.

"Americans will always be a target -- and a legitimate target -- until America changes its nature in the international arena," Mohammed said in an interview to air on tonight's "AC 360."

Al-Khattab and Mohammed consider al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden their model.

"I love him like I can't begin to tell you, because he doesn't seem to have done anything wrong from the sharia," al-Khattab said, referring to Islamic law. "If you're asking me if I love him as a Muslim, I love him more than I love myself."

They hand out fliers outside the gleaming 96th Street mosque, where up to 4,000 people visit every day. Inside the sleek, modernistic house of worship, Imam Shamsi Ali preaches against the violence that now sweeps many Muslim countries.

Islam is about peace. ... Islam is about friendship. Islam is opposed to any kind of hatred against anybody.

"What we try to do is reminding our people about the real Islam," Ali said. "We tell them what the real Islam is all about. Islam is about peace. Islam is about moderation. Islam is about friendship. Islam is opposed to any kind of hatred against anybody."

Law enforcement sources have told CNN the men walk right up to the line of protection under the First Amendment, but their message is not going unnoticed.

Al-Khattab handed CNN Correspondent Drew Griffin a business card from an FBI agent who he says is keeping tabs on him. The agent would not comment without clearance from his superiors, except to say, "Obviously, if they gave you my card, you know we are watching them."

The mosque has called police on Al-Khattab and Mohammed several times, and passers-by occasionally engage them in heated debates. Ali told CNN that ordinary Muslims are "disgusted with their behavior." But they insist they don't fight themselves, and don't incite others to do so.

Al-Khattab calls President Obama "a murderer, a tyrant, a scumbag," and says he wouldn't "shed a tear" if Obama were killed. But he added, "Would I incite his murder? That's not what I teach."

Mohammed calls himself an American "by default" who identifies with Muslims. Al-Khattab, a Jew who lived in Israel before converting to Islam, says he "would like to see a mushroom cloud" over the Jewish state -- "but before that, I'd like to see the people guided, and I'd like them to go back to their original countries where they're from."

But federal agents are not only watching them, they're watching some of those who are listening.

Neil Bryant Vinas, a young New Yorker who has pleaded guilty to plotting to attack trains on the Long Island Rail Road, met with al-Khattab. Al-Khattab said Vinas and "some brothers" traveled to Atlantic City, New Jersey, and had dinner with him. Al-Khattab said they considered him something of a hero because he left Israel and converted to Islam.

Al-Khattab also claims friendships with Tarek Mehanna, now under indictment in Boston, Massachusetts, on charges of conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists, and Daniel Maldonado, who pleaded guilty before a federal judge in Texas to receiving military training from Islamic militants in Somalia.

Mohammed says he and his fellow radicals are "commanded to terrorize the disbelievers ... making them fearful so that they will think twice before they go rape your mother or kill your brother or go onto your land and try to steal your resources."

"We are defending innocent women that are bombed every day, innocent children that are bombed every day," he said.

But asked whether those who take their fliers should take up arms against Americans, he said, "We certainly have never said that."

[OldE]

Don't mess with the Zohan

[Brit4064]

Fringe nutters trying to recruit a few more converts by the sound of it. At least the FBI is watching them and they are a known entity. It's the ones we don't know about that worry me. However, it should also serve as a lesson to SoM and other blanket muslim-haters out there that being Muslim isn't about hating everything and anybody non-muslim.

[OldE]

Zohan rules

[ProudUSC]

Good Lord, when will this madness end????

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/...shootings/index.html

7 seriously wounded in shooting at Orlando high-rise

November 6, 2009 1:38 p.m. EST

Orlando, Florida (CNN) -- At least seven people with serious gunshot wounds were brought out of an Orlando, Florida, office building Friday, a spokeswoman with the city fire department said.

A gunman was at large after firefighters and police responded to the report of a shooting at a high-rise building, said John Tormos of the Orlando Fire Department.

A spokesman for the Orange County Sheriff's Office, which is helping the city police department, said investigators are looking for a man wearing a blue Polo shirt, gray vest and blue jeans.

"We're in a search mode for the gunman," said Jim Solomons, a spokesman for the sheriff's office.

CNN affiliate WESH said the shooting occurred at the Gateway Center -- a 16-story building near Lake Ivanhoe and Interstate 4.

The interstate was closed in both directions near the office building, according to the Florida Department of Transportation Web site.

[OldE]

These news don't anymore sound as tragic. It is becoming routine, like statistics.

What I find odd is that similar things are happening all over the world, in different places .... assumedly all disconnected events...

[4now]

Cabbie Kicks Out Hugging *** Couple


(Nov. 6) -- A New York City taxi driver could lose his job for booting a same-*** couple out of his cab.
Medhat Mohamed ejected Paul Bruno and Bruno's boyfriend in the East Village on Monday night because the two men were hugging in the back seat of Mohamed's taxi, according to The New York Post. The cabbie said he was afraid the men were about to go beyond hugging.
"I wanted to pay attention to getting them to their destination instead of worrying if they were going to have *** or not," Mohamed said. He denied he's anti-***.



City officials blasted Mohamed.
"I thought the taxi driver's behavior -- if it is as reported -- was a disgrace," Mayor Michael Bloomberg told The Post.
"It's outrageous. If true, it's a clear violation of city human rights laws," said City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, who urged New York's Commission on Human Rights to file charges against Mohamed.
Sources told the newspaper the city's Taxi and Limousine Commission is investigating the incident. The commission could revoke Mohamed's taxi license



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[Brit4064]

So it's ok for Beck to say Obama is a racist? Looks like some of his advertisers don't think so.

Advertisers dump Glenn Beck

Three companies who run ads during Glenn Beck -- NexisLexis-owned Lawyers.com, Proctor & Gamble and Progressive Insurance -- today distanced themselves from Beck. LexisNexis has pulled its advertising from Beck and says it has no plans to advertise on the program in the future. Both Proctor & Gamble and Progressive Insurance called the Beck advertising placements an error that they would correct.

The decision by the three companies comes as over 45,000 ColorofChange.org members call on advertisers to pull their ads from Glenn Beck after the controversial news host called President Obama a "racist" who "has a deep-seated hatred for white people" on "Fox & Friends" last week.

"Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention," said John Michaels, Senior Communications Manager at LexisNexis in an email to ColorOfChange.org. "We have suspended further advertising during Mr. Beck's program."

mediamatters.org

[OldE]

No, it is not Ok for Muslims to put up sites like that.

But problem arises when someone puts up something disagreeable and is not a Muslim.

That's when every attempt should be made to either convert such person to become a Muslim or, if all else fails, to put up equally outrageous claim out there alleging that the author is Muslim.

For example "davdah disagrees with me on many points, ERGO he is a Muslim" and so on.

Simple as that.

[Brit4064]

Ok, a real news story and an horrific one as well. I'll guess some of the kids involved might never see freedom again, especially if the victim dies...

Set afire, teen now struggles for survival

He lies in a bed on a balloon-type mattress, to reduce pressure on his burned body. He is covered with bandages; a ventilator breathes for Michael Brewer because he can't do it for himself.

He's hooked up to the marvels of modern medicine that are trying to give the 15-year-old burn victim a chance to be a kid once again.

Sixty-five percent of his body is covered with second- and third-degree burns.

"People are writing horror stories ... but people just can't imagine the kind of sickness we're talking about," said Dr. Nicholas Namias, medical director of the University of Miami/Jackson Memorial Hospital Burn Center in Miami.

CNN story

[OldE]

The biggest issue with Commander in Chief is that he is a Muslim.
This is an undeniable fact, since I can't agree with some of his policies.

[Aroha]

Originally posted by Brit4064:
So it's ok for Beck to say Obama is a racist? Looks like some of his advertisers don't think so.

Advertisers dump Glenn Beck
mediamatters.org

(snipped for lengthism)

Old news, Brit. So far it hasn't affected Beck in any way.

As for the website, what amuses me is that people are actually believing he might have done what the domain name suggests. Never mind the fact that it's a parody on an old Gilbert Gottfried skit about Bob Saget.

Some people are so gullible.

[Aroha]

Originally posted by frenchybee:
Oh yes it has, Beck is in a "hospital".
Guess what he's doing? Crying! lmao

I'm not sure what planet you come from iT, but here on earth, you can't give someone appendicitis.