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  • #3
    Is this the same group who are letting kids graduate without a firm grasp of the 3 r's?

    What are they teaching these kids? Oh wait I know. They are teaching them how to develop their self esteem. How to approach life with an entitlement atttitude.

    So we can thank them for giving us a generation of kids who are both arrogant and ignorant.

    I will never vote for another school levy again

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    • #4
      Chris Cannon, the immigration debate, and Les Miserables

      Mary Mostert
      June 23, 2004


      Well, in spite of a massive misinformation campaign, supported and fueled by much of the press, including Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, numerous supposedly anti-immigration groups such as Project USA, American Patrol and Numbers USA, my own congressman, Rep. Chris Cannon of Utah's 3rd Congressional District won yesterday's Republican Primary by 58.45% of the vote. This was exactly the same percentage in the Republican Convention that was held May 8, 2004.

      Before the election, outside observers such as Michelle Makin, were telling us "the race to watch is the battle for the Republican nomination in the 3rd Congressional District. It's an important grass roots versus elite battle between conservative challenger Matt Throckmorton and four-term incumbent Chris Cannon. Cannon is full of himself. He's a lying open-borders zealot. And he's a chauvinist pig."

      Cannon a "Chauvinist pig?" That's a new one. Much of Cannon's campaign this year of necessity had to be run without him since he spent most of his time in Washington. Cannon, the father of 8 children, gave his wife and his daughters the job of speaking for him often. Since when do male chauvinists allow women to take their place in important tasks?

      As for only the "elite" voting for Cannon, yesterday's vote appears to put 58.45% of Utah's voting population in the "elite" category. Before the State Republican Convention, Matt Throckmorton said polls showed that he had 60% of the delegate votes. When he received 42%, we were then told that the convention only reflected the "elite" vote and the primary election would show that most voters were opposed to Chris Cannon. It would appear that 58.45% of all Utah voters are among the "elite."

      It's always interesting to me to read a journalist's description of what happened when it is something I happen to have direct, personal knowledge concerning. This happens to be the case where Chris Cannon is concerned. I got involved in the discussion before the Utah GOP State Convention when I began getting information that claimed to be discussing Chris Cannon's bill pertaining to immigration reform, HR 3142. What Cannon's opponents, all of whom were claiming to be "Reagan Republicans," were saying about the bill and Chris' position on immigration was simply inaccurate. Like, the opposite of what the bill was written to do.

      Now, I have no problem with people who oppose Chris Cannon and his position on immigration. That's normal. I do have a problem with people who claim that Cannon, who has a 93% "conservative" voting record, is a liberal who supports open borders. That is simply not true. Politicians and journalist who make that claim either cannot, or will not, read Cannon's bill. It doesn't offer amnesty. It would prevent any alien entering the country illegally from becoming a citizen "” unless they were a refugee or a woman fleeing provable abuse.

      Malkin wrote, "When I matter-of-factly noted that he had lied to the audience and confronted him about his support for the DREAM Act, which provides in-state tuition discounts for illegal aliens, he sputtered. Then he tried to convince the audience that the bill wouldn't encourage law breaking. Then, with voice rising, he insisted that it wasn't fair to punish illegal alien students. (The audience responded with boos and hisses). Then, with his chins quivering, he accused me of being 'emotional.'"

      Malkin's view of "lawbreaking" reminds me a lot of Les Miserables. I spent election evening watching two of my grandchildren in their final performance of Les Mis. After the performance I commented to my grandson Joshua, who plays Inspector Javert, who is a defender, of the "law," that it was ironic that the show ends with Javert's friend and informer, the tavern keeper Thenardier and his wife stealing the silver at Cosette's wedding and getting away with it, while the only father she knew, Jean Valjean, was still suffering and still in hiding after his 19 years in prison for stealing a loaf of bread to save the life of his sister's starving child.

      There are thousands of children of illegal aliens "” possibly millions of them "” in our schools. They are there because the 1982 ruling of the Supreme Court of the United States in Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202 (1982) (USSC+). That decision ruled that a Texas statute which withheld from local school districts "any state funds for the education of children who were not 'legally admitted' into the United States, and which authorizes local school districts to deny enrollment to such children, violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment."

      Contrary to Malkin's apparent view of the situation, it is not the children, brought into this country by their parents, who have broken the law. It is the parents. It is the American employers of the parents who have broken laws forbidding employment of illegal aliens. It is the U.S. Supreme Court who has blocked any effort to halt the flow of illegal aliens.

      So, once these children grow up, graduate from high school and want to attend college "” all the sudden all the punishment of American law and culture is to be placed on them? Why not the parents? Why not the Americans who employ the parents? Why not the U.S. Senators who approved liberal judges that block efforts to enforce immigration law? Why do we only want to punish the children who had nothing to do with being brought into this country and usually by high school graduation are as American as their classmates? Generally they have no one to return to in their native land and cannot continue their education to become more productive citizens.

      Is depriving them of higher education beneficial to the United States? I don't think so.

      I am proud of the voters of Utah for rejecting the blame-the-children approach to immigration problems and for seeing through the hate campaign against Chris Cannon. Chris Cannon may not be perfect, but at least he has the courage to stand up and fight for the children while so-called "conservatives" and admitted liberals spread incredible lies about what the Bush-Cannon immigration reform program is all about.



      © Copyright 2004 by Mary Mostert

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      Also See: Representative Chris Cannon (R-UT) on Anti-Immigration Groups Fathered by John Tanton
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      [COLOR:BLUE][B]When the creations of a genius collide with the mind of a layman, and produce an empty sound, there is little doubt as to which is at fault.

      One day it will have to be officially admitted that

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      • #5
        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
        I love smart women. I think only women are smart.
        She makes sense and notices things only women notice, make connections and use metaphors, unlike men whose language is just mumbo jumbo most of the time.
        Here. On topic. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I am proud of the voters of Utah for rejecting the blame-the-children approach to immigration problems and for seeing through the hate campaign against Chris Cannon.

        Chris Cannon may not be perfect, but at least he has the courage to stand up and fight for the children while so-called "conservatives" and admitted liberals spread incredible lies about what the Bush-Cannon immigration reform program is all about. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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        [COLOR:BLUE][B]When the creations of a genius collide with the mind of a layman, and produce an empty sound, there is little doubt as to which is at fault.

        One day it will have to be officially admitted that

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        • #6
          IP maybe the reason you find real men less intelligent than you is because of your insensitivity to the hurdles we must overcome. The biggest ( ) of these hurdles being testosterone. You see, those of us challenged with extraordinarily high levels of testosterone have short attention spans and become confused rather easily. If you give us a chance we often do make rather profound points though.

          Now, would you please bring back the more sensual picture?

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          • #7
            Now, just why are these "kids" and their parents in this country illegally in the first place? Because business claims it can't find enough unskilled, uneducated workers to do the jobs Americans won't do. If that is truly the case, then just why should we further educate or provide higher level opportunities to illegal aliens, when business needs them so badly just as they are? And when doing so would only spur claims that more and more illegals must be imported to do the work that the legalized illegals no longer will do?

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            • #8
              this tiresome rhetoric from 'business' about unskilled illegals doing the jobs Americans won't do glosses over the fact that what they should say (the truth) is that the illegals are willing to work for $2 an hour, and thus no AMericans are willing and ABLE to accept this krapola-paying jobs with zero benefits....if employers paid competitive wages, i.e. realistic ones, Americans would take many of those jobs.

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              • #9
                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And Mr. I'm Penetrable- </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                As you well know, I am indeed ImpenetrablE, but you can call me what you wish

                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Why are YOU clapping your hands? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                For the same reason you did before

                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Is this because you now not only want us/me to comment on your chosen articles but in addition to that, to concentrate on a specific excerpt.
                Oh, I see... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                Actually, Ms. imonkey , you already made an agreeable comment on whole article and it's author, so you don't have to further elaborate unless you want to make a specific comment diasgreeing with any part of it.
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                [COLOR:BLUE][B]When the creations of a genius collide with the mind of a layman, and produce an empty sound, there is little doubt as to which is at fault.

                One day it will have to be officially admitted that

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                • #10
                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Well, mr I'mpenetrableEvil,

                  I am a more agreeable woman than you would think. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


                  What an agreeable woman calls someone "Penetrable" "Evil" and persists on demagoguery and character assassination , while methodically avoiding to discuss the subject-matter of threads on merits ?

                  What is next?
                  Perhaps hitting me on my head with hummer while saying "Oh, I am such a loving woman, I couldn't love you more!"
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                  [COLOR:BLUE][B]When the creations of a genius collide with the mind of a layman, and produce an empty sound, there is little doubt as to which is at fault.

                  One day it will have to be officially admitted that

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