Political views 'all in the mind'

[Brit4064]

Whilst not exactly very scientific (only 46 volunteers in NE?!) or representative of all poeple in the USA, it's still an interesting article:

By Matt McGrath
Science reporter, BBC World Service

Their research, published in the journal Science, indicates that people who are sensitive to fear or threat are likely to support a right wing agenda.

Those who perceived less danger in a series of images and sounds were more inclined to support liberal policies.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7623256.stm

[Brit4064]

Whilst not exactly very scientific (only 46 volunteers in NE?!) or representative of all poeple in the USA, it's still an interesting article:

By Matt McGrath
Science reporter, BBC World Service

Their research, published in the journal Science, indicates that people who are sensitive to fear or threat are likely to support a right wing agenda.

Those who perceived less danger in a series of images and sounds were more inclined to support liberal policies.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7623256.stm

[OldE]

Another incredulous "study".
Take 46 subjects and then arbitrarily declare that whole population has one or another party affiliation because so and so are fearful cowards and others are reckless to the extreme thrill-seekers.
Reminds me of some "genetic" studies where they constantly tend to argue that if you prefer to wear T-shirts as opposed to short-sleeved shirts, it has something to do with your DNA and the way your remote ancestors survived 150 thousand years ago (forget that there were no T-shirts 150 thousand years ago).

For every mass published "scientific discovery" there are scores of true scientific records that remain unknown to most, because no one bothers to seek and read narrowly specialized scientific reports with impartial analysis of carefully collected data.

[Brit4064]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
That just goes to show that when we see a train coming at us we have the smarts to move out of the way. Where as a liberal will stand there thinking the train will stop for them. Sounds about right. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The smartest way is not to be IN the way in the first place ;-)

[MakeItRight!]

It All Comes Out In The End! My Apologies For My Neglect In The Contribution! I Like To WATCH!

[Brit4064]

I guess that article proves the point. If you are so scared of danger all the time, you'll be a Republican

7700 could be bad but it might be savable. For those reading this and wondering what 7700 is, it's aviation code for emergency. 7700 happens round the world everyday and a lot of the time passes without incident. That's why we spend hours each year in training for those situations.

It comes down to risk factors. My previous post about not being in that situation in the first post was the whole point.

Back in 2003, we had a gear up landing. It's not an unusual situation except in this case, there was no way we could have known what was going to happen. It turned out to be metal fatigue on the gear strut. The point where it broke was covered from view by a metal collar. The only way to have known the weakness was there would have been by using x-rays.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...3/ai_n21774185

Of course, there are situations where sometimes, if your number is up, then it's up. Just yesterday in Columbia, this happened:

http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9043949

Columbia is my regular airport I fly into most nights. I had to end up driving back home because the airport was closed. It could have been me. I don't spend my time dwelling on what could have happened. I'd be a nervous wreak if I did!

Be aware, be cognizant and be prepared, hence avoidance of a hazardous situation is the best policy.

[Houston]

Scared of danger? I am scared of danger, not from some pathetic terrorist gang living in a cave, but of what results when you ignore the Constitution.

Nothing wrong with being a Republican, I guess, Lincoln was a Republican and I think there's no need to talk about one of the greatest and most influentials figures in U.S. history.

But what we have now ain't no Lincoln! What we have now is a complete disregard for civil rights and for the Constitution itself! That's what I'm scared of.

[OldE]

First of all, judging by the dynamics, it's highly unlikely for Iperson to be either "leftist" or "liberal" or even a "democrat".
If anything, this poster is a straw-woman who sets herself up to make it esier for anyone to argue against her.

Second, and this is important part: what is in your interests, whether as an individual or as a country?

That's how the real argument should be made, provided anyone is interested in making one.

In true Statesmanship, the question shouldn't be whether it pleases ones' senses to act in one or another way, but the question is what will be the end result of one as opposed to another action, regardless of how you feel about it.
And whether it's the result you are aiming for.

[Brit4064]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The statement that there will be many more wars is indicative of the nature of the world we live in. Not U.S. policy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unless your name is Sarah Palin

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">In true Statesmanship, the question shouldn't be whether it pleases ones' senses to act in one or another way, but the question is what will be the end result of one as opposed to another action, regardless of how you feel about it. And whether it's the result you are aiming for. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is the "history will judge us" Cheney mantra. It sure will! Started a war under false pretenses, no exit plan then change the goal the "bringing democracy to the Middle East" all whilst ensuring oil to the USA cheap...which hasn't happened! Not forgetting the 4000+ US troops killed and many more left injured both physically and mentally.

The history books will slam Bush & Cheney's war and rightly so in my opinion.

[OldE]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">In true Statesmanship, the question shouldn't be whether it pleases ones' senses to act in one or another way, but the question is what will be the end result of one as opposed to another action, regardless of how you feel about it. And whether it's the result you are aiming for. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is the "history will judge us" Cheney mantra. It sure will! Started a war under false pretenses, no exit plan then change the goal the "bringing democracy to the Middle East" all whilst ensuring oil to the USA cheap...which hasn't happened! Not forgetting the 4000+ US troops killed and many more left injured both physically and mentally.

The history books will slam Bush & Cheney's war and rightly so in my opinion. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What I said wasn't "history will judge us" mantra.
And anyway, to those who have basic knowledge of it it's a know fact that history is always being written by victors.

What I clearly stated was that "In true Statesmanship, the question shouldn't be whether it pleases ones' senses to act in one or another way, but the question is what will be the end result of one as opposed to another action, regardless of how you feel about it. And whether it's the result you are aiming for".

You may try as much as you wish to interpret my words as you like, yet it won't change anything about what I have said.

[4now]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
Not so. It wasn't a Bush Cheney war to begin with. You forget, you guys were in on it too. Along with several other countries. Were they so smart they out foxed your gov along with all the rest? Convinced them it was the right thing to do when all along it wasn't? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yes... one cannot forget Mr. tony "who" in all this.

[Brit4064]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
Not so. It wasn't a Bush Cheney war to begin with. You forget, you guys were in on it too. Along with several other countries. Were they so smart they out foxed your gov along with all the rest? Convinced them it was the right thing to do when all along it wasn't? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes and he had the good sense to drop out and let somebody else take over because he knew the war was a big mistake.

Iraq like it or not will be Bush's legacy. It will follow him around like a bad dream. The rest of the world will view it as an American-led war in much the same way Vietnam and Korea are now remembered even though they started under the umbrella of the UN. If anybody was to blame for those wars it was the French.

[4now]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
And once the dust settles and some of the inside secrets revealed the world will have a moment of enlightenment. That is was the right thing to do. More so than Vietnam or Korea. More is at stake in this one. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Davdah\

No it will never come out that it was the right thing to do given the reason at the time. It can never be justified. Especially that lame excuse about making it a democracy and to free the Iraqi peoples

Shame on USA Shame

[Brit4064]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
And once the dust settles and some of the inside secrets revealed the world will have a moment of enlightenment. That is was the right thing to do.More so than Vietnam or Korea. More is at stake in this one. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope, Korea and the Vietnam wars were borne out of a belief the "Commie was out to get us" mentality, much like way the terrorist is viewed now.

That Commie mentality has largely been dropped over the years yet there are still Communist countries and their allies out there. Do we still fear them in the same way we did back in the 1950s & 60s? I don't think so. Do you still have a fallout shelter in your yard Davdah?

People might well be suspicious of the Communist countries, perhaps with good reason but they are not scared of them as they were back then. You couldn't have gotten much more scared than in Oct 1962 and the Cuban Missile Crisis to see that. Brink of Nuclear World War. (thank god Kennedy was in power, can you imagine what GWB would have done?).

I think in 30yrs time, the world will look back and see 911 and the fallout from it in a similar way as we do now looking back. After all, terrorist organizations sometimes do reform or simply disintegrate when they realize nothing can be gained by terror. You only have to look at the IRA and Baader-Meinhof to see that.

[OldE]

Go to your kitchen. Open a fauset. Then watch how water flows under the force of gravity. Meditate on it.
Therein you will find all the secrets of this world.
And if you can't - then nothing else will reveal anything to you.
What is beyond is just a dust in the eye, to merely obstruct your view.

All comes out of necessity.
All chips fall as they may.
Some are luckier than others.
It's chess and poker at the table.
Nothing less, nothing more.

True picture of Life, the DAO, is Nothingness.
So one must create reality to exist, if one already has knowledge of its' being none other but Emptyness.
One must comprehend the laws of Nature to see cause and effect.
One must have a willpower to take advantage.
And all the rest.

I read some posts... Either complete fools are posting here or too intelligent men and women who just pretend to be fools.

Good luck to all.