Wife illegal - from Mexico, Me US Citizen

[manito2000]

Hello...

Here's my story...

Wife came from Mexico when she was 17 years old.

She was detained by border patrol and was given voluntary departure the day after she was detained.

On the 3rd day she again tried to enter US - this time she was successful.

We have two babies.

We would like to know if we can submit I-130 and I-601 for her....

[manito2000]

Hello...

Here's my story...

Wife came from Mexico when she was 17 years old.

She was detained by border patrol and was given voluntary departure the day after she was detained.

On the 3rd day she again tried to enter US - this time she was successful.

We have two babies.

We would like to know if we can submit I-130 and I-601 for her....

[SunDevilUSA]

Does anyone actually know a Mexican...any Mexican...who has entered America legally? I understand that Mexico is a complete and total mess, but what sort of country engenders such criminality and disregard for the rule-of-law in the majority of its citizens?

This situation is complicated by the fact that your wife has already been deported once.

You can file 1-130 and I-485 for your wife, but she will be required to return to Mexico (this shouldn't cause her too much distress as Mexicans apparently adore Mexico...or so they never tire of telling me). Once in Mexico, your wife will have an automatic bar against reentering America. She will be required to go to the American embassy for an interview for I-485, at which point it will be denied - due to prior deportation and reentry bar.

At that point, you will have to apply for a waiver - I-601. Your wife will be in Mexico for a long time.

And, before you ask: No, this isn't America's fault or America's problem. If you don't want to be separated, perhaps you could immigrate to Mexico.

[aneri]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by manito2000:
Wife came from Mexico when she was 17 years old.

She was detained by border patrol and was given voluntary departure the day after she was detained.

On the 3rd day she again tried to enter US - this time she was successful.

We have two babies.

We would like to know if we can submit I-130 and I-601 for her.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Manito, you need a GOOD lawyer...

In short, illegal entry -&gt; deportation -&gt; illegal entry means permanent bar and no waiver. However, since your wife was underage, I don't know if the above applys to her.
2 entries without inspection also amount to federal crime punished by prison.

When you are sure your wife can become a permanent resident, you file I-130 and mark consular processing (she can't adjusts status in the US since she entered without inspection). I-485 is for adjustment of status in the US.

[ProudUSC]

From what I read below, Mexico has even tougher immigration laws than we do!

Mexico's Immigration Law: Let's Try It Here at Home
by J. Michael Waller
Posted: 05/08/2006
Mexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven't been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill.

That's too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it's noteworthy that nobody has argued that the U.S. look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve
our illegal immigration problem. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:
"¢ in the country legally;
"¢ have the means to sustain themselves economically;
"¢ not destined to be burdens on society;
"¢ of economic and social benefit to society;
"¢ of good character and have no criminal records; and
"¢ contributors to the general well-being of the nation.
The law also ensures that:
"¢ immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;
"¢ foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;
"¢ foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country's internal politics;
"¢ foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;
"¢ foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
"¢ those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.
Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens -- and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, illegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or
General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country's immigration policy.

It is an interesting law -- and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a
crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.

We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. [1] Now let's look at Mexico's main immigration law.

Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:
"¢ Foreigners are admitted into Mexico "according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress." (Article 32)
"¢ Immigration officials must "ensure" that "immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents. (Article 34)
"¢ Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics," when foreigners are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when "they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy." (Article 37)
"¢ The Secretary of Governance may "suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest." (Article 38)
Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:
"¢ Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)
"¢ A National Population Registry keeps track of "every single individual who comprises the population of the country," and verifies each individual's identity. (Articles 85 and 86)
"¢ A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).
Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:
"¢ Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)
"¢ Foreigners who sign government documents "with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses" are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)
Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:
"¢ Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)
"¢ Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)
"¢ Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico -- such as working with out a permit -- can also be imprisoned.
Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,
"¢ "A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally." (Article 123)
"¢ Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)
"¢ Foreigners who "attempt against national sovereignty or security" will be deported. (Article 126)
Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:
"¢ A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)
"¢ Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)
All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States. The stark contrast between Mexico's immigration practices versus its American
immigration preachings is telling. It gives a clear picture of the Mexican government's agenda: to have a one-way immigration relationship with the United States.

Let's call Mexico's bluff on its unwarranted interference in U.S. immigration policy. Let's propose, just to make a point, that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico's own law as a model.

This article was first posted at CenterforSecurityPolicy.org.
________________________________________

1. "Mexico's Glass House," Center for Security Policy Occasional Paper, April 3, 2006.

________________________________________
Dr. Waller is vice president for Information Operations at the Center for Security Policy. A journalist and author, he brings expertise in terrorism, intelligence, the former Soviet Union and the Americas. He previously served as a consultant to the U.S. Department of State.

[Freedom1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by manito2000:
Hello...

Here's my story...

Wife came from Mexico when she was 17 years old.

She was detained by border patrol and was given voluntary departure the day after she was detained.

On the 3rd day she again tried to enter US - this time she was successful.

We have two babies.

We would like to know if we can submit I-130 and I-601 for her.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi manito2000,

If she was fingerprinted when she was sent back to Mexico, there's almost nothing it can be done at this moment, since the USCIS already has a record of her.

You might want to wait to see if the U.S. Congress passes an Immigration reform this year that might include some kind of waiver for these cases.

Freedom1.

[whknapp]

She WAS NOT deported. She was granted voluntary departure, which makes a BIG difference, even if she reentered illegaly. You should consult a lawyer.

[timmy_d11]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SunDevilUSA:
Does anyone actually know a Mexican...any Mexican...who has entered America legally? I understand that Mexico is a complete and total mess, but what sort of country engenders such criminality and disregard for the rule-of-law in the majority of its citizens? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

MAJORITY?

You really are a retard, arent you?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SunDevilUSA: And, before you ask: No, this isn't America's fault or America's problem. If you don't want to be separated, perhaps you could immigrate to Mexico </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, you coarse foolish patrIDIOT, he didn't ask.

And it may not be America's "fault" that they are separated, but it IS America's laws that are keeping them separated.

[whknapp]

Timmy:

SunRabidUSA has the nerve to tell people to move to other countries, when he's an immigrant himself. That should give you an idea of how damaged his little brain is, if he's got one at all. He's just a rabid dog, barking loudly at the wrong tree... Just a worthless piece of S H I T...

[aneri]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by whknapp:
She WAS NOT deported. She was granted voluntary departure, which makes a BIG difference, even if she reentered illegaly. You should consult a lawyer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

correct, it is different...However, it does not make difference here since two illegal entries = permanent bar.

manito needs a good lawyer to look into his wife's case.

[Theone]

Not sure the under 17 counts, certainly illegal presence does not count until you are 18.

[LookingForAnswers]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SunDevilUSA:
Does anyone actually know a Mexican...any Mexican...who has entered America legally?

And, before you ask: No, this isn't America's fault or America's problem. If you don't want to be separated, perhaps you could immigrate to Mexico. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Go to Mexico because his wife is undocumented? I think it's outrageous he can't just file a paper and be done with it.

I guess he could have basically purchased an Eastern European wife - met her for 20 minutes and done it the 'legal' way - but I guess he actually wanted a spouse that loved him. Go figure!

Accusing an entire ethnicity of criminal behavior because they are looking for a better life is lame.

Giving immigration advice is great, but personal opinions on whether they are criminals or not are like.... something probably not post-able here. Let the courts and ICE decide...

[Someone12]

this douchebag has already shown her disdain for our laws....sneaking across our borders multiple times and then...what a surprise, she marries somebody even dumber than tinydiktimmy and bangs out a couple of brats and then whines through her village idiot of a husband for an Oh-So-Deserved Green Card!!??

[timmy_d11]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Someone12:
this douchebag has already shown her disdain for our laws....sneaking across our borders multiple times and then...what a surprise, she marries somebody even dumber than tinydiktimmy and bangs out a couple of brats and then whines through her village idiot of a husband for an Oh-So-Deserved Green Card!!?? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey Someone12 why don't you go fu@k your own hideous fat pig of a wife, if you even have one.

Because if you did have one, and if she weren't so despicably ugly, and if you were loved by someone WORTHWHILE, you wouldn't be here with such fury and hate.

You were obviously a neglected unloved child that turned into an unsightly homely and ugly man and now you're one step away from being a deranged serial killer. It is apparent that you need to be institutionalized.

Put yourself out of misery - kill your(UGLY)self.

[ProudUSC]

And, again, Timmy. Did you add anything of value to this post? I haven't seen one post from you that was the least bit informative. Trash-talking, bashing people for having original thoughts. From your posts last Fall, I believe you have a Columbian born wife. Instead of all the hate mongering, perhaps you could share some of your experiences of bringing her here? Provide some guidance to folks looking for help. I don't think that's your intention, though. You've taken on the role of vigilante. It's become tiresome and boring. But, we are seeing less of you, so maybe you are getting a clue.