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  • ProudUSC
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frenchybee:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ProudUSC:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frenchybee:
    but its the government! fear government!

    ProudUSC, do you ever go to Post Office?
    i hope not! that would make you a socialist, wouldn't it
    i also hope you never call Fire Dept or send your kids to a public school </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Now you're starting to make me laugh. If I had my choice, I would not use USPS! But, we do fund them, you know. How many books of stamps have you purchased lately? Noticed how much they cost? Think about it.

    Public schools are not funded by the government. They are state funded made possible by tax payers. And the federal government does not have its hands in local fire departments either. You need to get your facts straight before tossing darts at me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    you DO have a choice! and what are UPS, DHL and FedEx?? alien planets?
    you pay for USPS service, and so you would pay for Public Option!
    same shiite, fool!

    oh oh oh! state funded by tax payers- and what else is the US government? Mars funded alien owned place?
    states are part of the government! not planet mars! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Based on this post, you are no longer worthy of replies. Your ignorance is showing through. I suggest you read up on how things work in the USA. Might be of use one day.

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  • ProudUSC
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brit4064:
    Keep looking I'm sure they'll be somewhere that'll take it. Try here:

    aurorahealthcare.org </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Thanks. It's worth a try.

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  • Brit4064
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    Keep looking I'm sure they'll be somewhere that'll take it. Try here:

    aurorahealthcare.org

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  • ProudUSC
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brit4064:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">My dad, before he passed, was an amputee and was fitted with a prosthetic leg - to the tune of $60,000. Medicare paid for it. The also paid for a motorized wheel chair. Not sure of the cost, but it wasn't cheap. When my dad passed, my mom contacted Medicare to return these items so someone else could make use of them. Do you know Medicare wouldn't take them
    back?????? How wasteful is that???? That's our tax dollars going straight down the toilet. How many other instances of similar events have occurred? Think about all the money wasted because of a mis-managed, red-tape entangled organization. And you trust them to provide health care for you? Fine - but it's a big No Thanks from me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I agree that's wasteful but your dad did get what he needed. Why not just donate the prosthetic leg and chair to a hospital or individual who needed it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Yes, and he paid into the system for nearly 55 years to get what he needed. We did find someone to donate the leg; still can't find a hospital, nursing home, or any other place that wants to come pick up the wheelchair. How sad.
    And, I'll add, the recipient of the leg was a doctor. Go figure that one out. A friend of my mom's family in NC. So, how come a doctor ended up with it instead of Medicare taking it back and giving it to some person in need? That's my beef about the whole thing. Medicare is s.crewed up. They should have a process for taking returns and it appears they don't!

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  • Brit4064
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">My dad, before he passed, was an amputee and was fitted with a prosthetic leg - to the tune of $60,000. Medicare paid for it. The also paid for a motorized wheel chair. Not sure of the cost, but it wasn't cheap. When my dad passed, my mom contacted Medicare to return these items so someone else could make use of them. Do you know Medicare wouldn't take them back?????? How wasteful is that???? That's our tax dollars going straight down the toilet. How many other instances of similar events have occurred? Think about all the money wasted because of a mis-managed, red-tape entangled organization. And you trust them to provide health care for you? Fine - but it's a big No Thanks from me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I agree that's wasteful but your dad did get what he needed. Why not just donate the prosthetic leg and chair to a hospital or individual who needed it?

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  • ProudUSC
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frenchybee:
    but its the government! fear government!

    ProudUSC, do you ever go to Post Office?
    i hope not! that would make you a socialist, wouldn't it
    i also hope you never call Fire Dept or send your kids to a public school </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Now you're starting to make me laugh. If I had my choice, I would not use USPS! But, we do fund them, you know. How many books of stamps have you purchased lately? Noticed how much they cost? Think about it.

    Public schools are not funded by the government. They are state funded made possible by tax payers. And the federal government does not have its hands in local fire departments either. You need to get your facts straight before tossing darts at me.

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  • ProudUSC
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frenchybee:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ProudUSC:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frenchybee:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ProudUSC:
    Let me share a personal story about how wasteful and disorganized our government is when it comes to overseeing an organization . . . the one in this story happens to be Medicare.

    My dad, before he passed, was an amputee and was fitted with a prosthetic leg - to the tune of $60,000. Medicare paid for it. The also paid for a motorized wheel chair. Not sure of the cost, but it wasn't cheap. When my dad passed, my mom contacted Medicare to return these items so someone else could make use of them. Do you know Medicare wouldn't take them back?????? How wasteful is that???? That's our tax dollars going straight down the toilet. How many other instances of similar events have occurred? Think about all the money wasted because of a mis-managed, red-tape entangled organization. And you trust them to provide health care for you? Fine - but it's a big No Thanks from me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    does this mean your not taking medicare when your old?
    and why did your father opt for that nasty government option called medicare, and why didn't he pay for the wheelchair and the prosthetic by himself?
    was he a socialist?? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I guess you don't know very much about working and paying taxes in the US, do you? Well, a taxpayer contributes to Social Security as well as Medicare all their working years. Both are available when one reaches a certain age. It is not a government handout. It is something earned by the US taxpayer.

    And to accuse my dad of being a socialist is just hitting below the belt, Frenchybee or whatever alias you are on the forum You're not fooling anyone, btw. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    whatever rocks your boat, i just think a lot of americans are fooled by certain interests that throw tons of mud and it sticks on some fools and im making fun of it

    and yeah im also sonof, makeitright, kumna and brit

    ya dont have to take medicare if you think its such a bad idea, u can always refuse to be a part of it if you dont wanna be called a socialist! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Recouping some of the money you put in the system isn't being a socialist, Frenchy.

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  • ProudUSC
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frenchybee:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ProudUSC:
    Let me share a personal story about how wasteful and disorganized our government is when it comes to overseeing an organization . . . the one in this story happens to be Medicare.

    My dad, before he passed, was an amputee and was fitted with a prosthetic leg - to the tune of $60,000. Medicare paid for it. The also paid for a motorized wheel chair. Not sure of the cost, but it wasn't cheap. When my dad passed, my mom contacted Medicare to return these items so someone else could make use of them. Do you know Medicare wouldn't take them back?????? How wasteful is that???? That's our tax dollars going straight down the toilet. How many other instances of similar events have occurred? Think about all the money wasted because of a mis-managed, red-tape entangled organization. And you trust them to provide health care for you? Fine - but it's a big No Thanks from me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    does this mean your not taking medicare when your old?
    and why did your father opt for that nasty government option called medicare, and why didn't he pay for the wheelchair and the prosthetic by himself?
    was he a socialist?? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I guess you don't know very much about working and paying taxes in the US, do you? Well, a taxpayer contributes to Social Security as well as Medicare all their working years. Both are available when one reaches a certain age. It is not a government handout. It is something earned by the US taxpayer.

    And to accuse my dad of being a socialist is just hitting below the belt, Frenchybee or whatever alias you are on the forum You're not fooling anyone, btw.

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  • ProudUSC
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    Let me share a personal story about how wasteful and disorganized our government is when it comes to overseeing an organization . . . the one in this story happens to be Medicare.

    My dad, before he passed, was an amputee and was fitted with a prosthetic leg - to the tune of $60,000. Medicare paid for it. The also paid for a motorized wheel chair. Not sure of the cost, but it wasn't cheap. When my dad passed, my mom contacted Medicare to return these items so someone else could make use of them. Do you know Medicare wouldn't take them back?????? How wasteful is that???? That's our tax dollars going straight down the toilet. How many other instances of similar events have occurred? Think about all the money wasted because of a mis-managed, red-tape entangled organization. And you trust them to provide health care for you? Fine - but it's a big No Thanks from me.

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  • ProudUSC
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">it's just subsidized by the govt partially to help pay the costs </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    And where are these subsidies coming from??? The government doesn't have money growing on trees, you know?

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  • ProudUSC
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brit4064:
    Glad you see the benefit of the Public Option frenchybee.

    Private insurance companies don't limit your cover? Think again:

    Double amputee loses legs, finds a cause

    An annual family boating trip to the Florida Keys took a bloody and life-changing turn for Jordan Thomas.

    "It was a beautiful day, and we were going to go scuba diving," said Thomas, who was 16 during the 2005 trip.

    But when he jumped into the water, the boat's wake dragged Thomas hard into sharp, whirling propellers.

    He immediately knew what was about to happen.

    "I looked down -- my black fins were gone, and all I saw was red just everywhere," said Thomas, an athletic teen who was captain of his high school's golf team. "But I had this unbelievable calmness over my body."

    His father and mother, both doctors from Chattanooga, Tennessee, jumped into action.

    "The top-of-the-line prosthetics Thomas was fitted with -- the ones that helped him return to the golf links -- cost about $24,000. He learned that many insurance plans cover only about $5,000."

    CNN story

    Yeah right, I just happen to have $24k lying around doing nothing </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Let me ask a question. Do you think the proposed public option would pay $24,000 for the necessary prosthetics? And, where is all this money to fund a public option coming from again???

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  • Brit4064
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    Glad you see the benefit of the Public Option frenchybee.

    Private insurance companies don't limit your cover? Think again:

    Double amputee loses legs, finds a cause

    An annual family boating trip to the Florida Keys took a bloody and life-changing turn for Jordan Thomas.

    "It was a beautiful day, and we were going to go scuba diving," said Thomas, who was 16 during the 2005 trip.

    But when he jumped into the water, the boat's wake dragged Thomas hard into sharp, whirling propellers.

    He immediately knew what was about to happen.

    "I looked down -- my black fins were gone, and all I saw was red just everywhere," said Thomas, an athletic teen who was captain of his high school's golf team. "But I had this unbelievable calmness over my body."

    His father and mother, both doctors from Chattanooga, Tennessee, jumped into action.

    "The top-of-the-line prosthetics Thomas was fitted with -- the ones that helped him return to the golf links -- cost about $24,000. He learned that many insurance plans cover only about $5,000."

    CNN story

    Yeah right, I just happen to have $24k lying around doing nothing

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  • Brit4064
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    The whole idea is to eliminate the uninsured. By mandating insurance for all, the cost of insurance should go down because the #1 reason it's gotten so high is the 46m uninsured we are all paying for right now. It assumes the private health insurance companies will pass on the benefit of mandatory insurance to you the consumer.

    You already have to have car insurance. It's not so different from that. Davdah, the tort reform you seem to love would also limit freedom of choice. Did you think about that?

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  • ProudUSC
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
    The new plan, you will have insurance whether you want it or not

    Insurance companies also would be barred from imposing annual caps or lifetime limits on coverage. Individuals, however, would be fined up to $950 annually for failing to obtain coverage; families could be fined as much as $3,800.


    So, if you are poor and elect to forgo insurance so you can feed your kids Obama and his cronies will fine you $3800.00 for failure to participate. Yeah! real choice here. Jeezuz, what the hell is wrong with these people! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Oh great. Well, I guess they're not going to get anywhere with this. Same outcome as when Clinton was President.

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  • ProudUSC
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    Has anyone taken a look at the revised health care reform bill released yesterday? Haven't had time to read it. Just wondering if it's more of the same without the public option included.

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI...alth.care/index.html

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