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  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brit4064:
    ok..OldE goes on my ignore list. A flippant reply from a f*cking idiot! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    A typical irresponsible Ian supporter responce.
    http://www.anbsoft.com/images/usflag_med.jpg

    "...I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibit

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    • Despite a couple of idiot posters who are most definitely in the minority on this issue, Guardian decided to reverse their decision

      Insurance company reverses decision to pull coverage from disabled man

      WASHINGTON (CNN) - Disabled and suffering from muscular dystrophy, Ian Pearl was just weeks away from losing his health insurance.

      His New York-based carrier, Guardian Insurance, had canceled Pearl's family policy as part of a company decision to drop scores of its older small group plans in three states.

      But after a public outcry over Guardian's decision, the company announced Thursday it is reversing its decision and restoring Pearl's policy.

      CNN article

      Amazing what bad publicity can do
      "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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      • "In a statement, Guardian's president Dennis Manning admitted the company was wrong.

        "Insurance companies are comprised of human beings and sometimes we make mistakes. This was one of them, but we also learn from those mistakes and we seek to correct them," Manning said."

        - AND government NEVER makes mistakes; that is your claim ! If you really truly believe that Government never makes mistake, then you are hopeless !!! The issue is not if mistakes are ever made, but who makes less mistakes? Who is more efficient? - Government or People? I trust in people, not in government !

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        • I hold dogs in higher regard.

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          • davdah, I can't believe you said "pull the plug". If they did that he would quite likely die. All to save the company money?? Isn't that the private insurance equvalent of the "death panels" you Repubs go on about??

            According to his Facebook page, their father took out the Guardian policy in 1981 so that's 28yrs of premium payments. That's $112,000 over the years assuming $4k per year.

            This is why a public option is needed as private companies will eventually try to get rid of the high cost patients.

            You complain about how much it's costing you. Guardian has say 100,000 insured. The public option would cover 300,000 million. Spreading the load over the many will make it cheaper for all in the end.
            "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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            • So Brit; In the name of socialism, you would rather have more people die ? More socialism; less mediacal care; this is the fact. We see this again and again. Bush said socializing mortgage industry would give us more housing but had the opposite effect. How many people have to die before you learn that it does not work?

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              • Brit, the mere fact that you believe that Governmet is infallable, like God, says that you are not someone that knows what you are talking about and you live in a delusional fantasy world. Government IS fallable and does make mistakes and is more inefficient than the free market. Government is not God. Obama is not God.

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                • Lets do the math; we all get $1,000,000 of "FREE" medical care and each put in $100,000. We are spreading the load; we all have $900,000 in debt. What is not to get about this??? What is really the problem? Not enough demand or not enough supply?

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                  • You are assuming the family aren't doing what they can already davdah. We don't know that. I'd guess they are already doing a lot to help. His brother wrote a lot about him on the Facebook page.

                    Your argument is because he has a terminal illness, it should be left to his family to care for him because it's cheaper for everybody else that way. How do you propose they do that without the medical care and knowledge on hand 24/7? Should one of them study and become nurse?

                    I can't believe you davdah. I thought you were more humane than the likes of SoM etc. I'm genuinely shocked at your attitude.

                    Remember the Terry Schiavo fiasco a few years ago? Your fellow Repubs got on their high horse saying the ex-hubby shouldn't be allowed to end her life and that she wasn't PVS at all.

                    Seems to me it was ok to save her life at any cost back then so why should it be any different now? Terry Schiavo was in hospital for 15yrs. Had she had been kept alive as some Republican politicians wanted, she would have lived until a natural death one presumes. Would you be happy to pay for that davdah?
                    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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                    • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brit4064:
                      You are assuming the family aren't doing what they can already davdah. We don't know that. I'd guess they are already doing a lot to help. His brother wrote a lot about him on the Facebook page.
                      </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                      Yes; Writing on Facebook has saved many many lives; that is solution to healthcare; write on Facebook !! Solves all problems !!

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                      • I think you are wrong davdah. I think you'll find many families who have a disabled person do chip in and do their collective bit to help out as much as is possible. You have a somewhat jaundiced view of people and society as a whole as witnessed by your use of the "entitlement" phrase so often.

                        You say you're not that cold-blooded but what you argue here is exactly that IMO. You agree with Guardian that they should have stopped insurance cover for him which would likely cause an earlier death than would otherwise happen.

                        Again, how come other countries manage to have some form of "socialized" medicine and yet still continue to be successful? It won't be the end of a nation as you put it if we have it here too. It will enhance it.
                        "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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                        • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brit4064:Again, how come other countries manage to have some form of "socialized" medicine and yet still continue to be successful? It won't be the end of a nation as you put it if we have it here too. It will enhance it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                          The United States, despite encroaching Socialism, still has the BEST medicial care system in the world. Others may be "successful" but they certainly are not the best at all. They should be following us, we shouldn't be following them.

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                          • FACT:

                            Life Expectancy in US same as EU; Women in US outlive Women in EU; Men in US die younger than men in EU. This is because of American IMBRA law.

                            Life Expectancy By Country

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                            • Interesting is that the United States Life Expectancy, while still high, has dropped since 1999 from 25 place in 1999 to 34th place im 2005

                              Life Expectancy

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                              • AND THE REASON BEING:

                                ""There's been an increase in the number with government health insurance every year since 1999," said Matt Brault"

                                Public health plan? 29% have one now

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