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  • #91
    The court system doesn't work on hearsay evidence fedNUT. There has to be some real, hard factual evidence before they will take up a case. So far, the Birthers haven't produced any. So come on...lets see it as RN says.
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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    • #92
      You guys cling to some unsigned, un-notarized, un-officiated, supposedly prima facie green image posted on some web site as proof that wouldn't stand up in any court.

      Why-oh-why is that? Simple, because he promised to spread the wealth (aka free lunch), free medicine, free this that and the other. Let's not forget tearing down the border and letting all the hooligans in the back door. Ya'll know someone has to pay for it and ya'll know Dems like picking pockets. So, ya don't give a hoot who he takes it from to unjustly enrich you so long as ya get sumthin fer nuthin. That's the cold bloody truth.

      In any other circumstance (especially when it involves a Repub) ya'd be screaming and demanding conclusive facts. But because he represents socialism ya let him slide cuz the benefits you hope for. Then, to distract from what should be done the name calling starts up. Birthers, tea baggers, and all the rest of that nonsense to silence what screams to be disclosed, the truth.
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      • #93
        I never claimed he wasn't a citizen. I only asked to see the document that would prove him a citizen.

        Typically BritNut and Rnut just make stuff up.

        I never claimed that a court said he wasn't a citizen either.

        Typical leftists, just making s**t up.

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        • #94
          "unsigned, un-notarized, un-officiated"

          Really? Lets see, I think you'll find the raised seal of the State of Hawaii counts as it being notarized and therefore official. As for the signature, it doesn't need it because it's already a certified OFFICIAL document....hence the raised stamp! Not forgetting the 2 HI State officials who publicly swore to the validity of it. In a court of law, those people can be subpoena'd to testify which counts as evidence.

          Is this all you can come up with davdah? I'm disappointed.
          "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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          • #95
            Originally posted by davdah:
            You guys cling to some unsigned, un-notarized, un-officiated, supposedly prima facie green image posted on some web site as proof that wouldn't stand up in any court.

            Why-oh-why is that? ...
            You silly. It did stand up in court in many occasions as a matter of fact. Show us any court challenge that prospered in the contrary, then you might be correct. The long form won't. And that's for sure.

            When we call you birthers that's name calling. When you call us socialists that must be forgiven because that's just a desperate rumbling by a g.ayish GOP when pushed to qualify his fact-free claim.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by federale86:
              I never claimed he wasn't a citizen. I only asked to see the document that would prove him a citizen.

              Typically BritNut and Rnut just make stuff up.

              I never claimed that a court said he wasn't a citizen either.

              Typical leftists, just making s**t up.
              Another confirmed GOP g.ay that weeps when pushed for solid facts.

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              • #97
                I admit I'm wrong here. His certificate does have a signature. It's on the back:

                Factcheck.org

                The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department.

                Factcheck.org

                In other words, he can't get the "long form" or "souvenir" one which is why he can't show it. Move along please, there's nothing to see here.
                "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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                • #98
                  That's alright, Brit, enough. You seem to be overestimating some lunies here. It's your facts against their g.ayish words.

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                  • #99
                    Try applying for a passport using your long form/souvenir copy and see how they send your b.um home. On that note, folks, that concludes this humorous (rumorous?) long form quest. Next...

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                    • Concluded on mere prima facie? I don't think so. Without something making that green image official, I'm well within my rights to question it's authenticity given the circumstances its deficient evidence value props up.

                      What is this obsession with g.ayish tendencies? Something is being suppressed I gather since it's being mentioned every other sentence.
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                      • You have every right to question it davdah. Nobody is arguing that. Your conclusion "it's deficient" however is your opinion and not that of the legal justice system in the this country...and that's what counts. If you don't like that decision then as I've said before, put your money where your mouth is and prove it wrong.
                        "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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                        • And that's the problem with you birthers. Just because you're faced up with a string of defeats in the court of law, it doesn't mean that you can succeed in the court of public opinion. We non-birthers have the evidence in both courts. You've got none.

                          Oh, about that g.ay thing. Who raised it up first in this thread? I think it's you. And I tend to overreact in most circumstances when provoked. Don't worry, it will happen again and again.

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                          • Not true brit. It hasn't gone though any legal vetting process to speak of outside the inner circles of democrat conclaves. With it being withheld from public scrutiny I'm all the more suspicious.

                            The long form is by no means a souvenir level document. It caries the official elements bearing out its authenticity. You ain't going to slip that one by.


                            What you have is not a victory but a choosing of a lesser evil to avoid the sort of uprisings we see in the middle east today.
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                            • The long form is generated by the hospital and the form is filled out by hand. Not everybody obtains that because that's not a legal document. But those who do just keep it for the sake of remembrance, i.e. a souvenir for scrapbook purposes or the likes.

                              Obama is lucky for not opting to make that one public if ever he has it because I can't imagine the flurry of conspiracy theories it could have ignited rather than the authenticated one.

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                              • A national uprising in the US fueled by a conspiracy to conceal the erroneous voting into office of an "immigrant" president? That's a first class humorous rumor. What about impeachment or resignation, if your fantasy is right?

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