please help...

[dmaza]

I have very hmm... compicated story. I came to us on J1 visa and then applied for assylum(there where reasons) but beed denied. Then I apllied for appeal, after BIA denied it (they denied it 100 % now) I needed to aplly for federal court, my lawer failed to cantact me and I suddenly find myself as illigal...Then I met a guy and fell in love, but he was merried this time and waiting for divorce, we decided to wait for him to be free and get married, but while we were waiting i got deportation issued( police extually came to my house to arrest me , but i wasn't there this time), now he is free and we are getting maried... We went to 5 different lawers and they all saing different things, like one ove them saing i need to go back and then try to get back in other one saing i need to file 130 and then take my chanses on interview( his words you need to roll the dice of beeing or not deported) I cannot open my assylum case becouse country conditions have changed. So i'm don't really now what to do... my fiancee is here ,my mom, my uncle and his family... i 've been here for 7 years all my friends are here. I don't want to roll the dice with my live, because if i'm stuck back there i just don' t have anybody and anyhting there. i'm not criminal, I just want to live normal life, to go to school have a baby and so on.I don't know wich lawer to trust. Is it possible to do something without leaving the country... if yes maybe you can tell me with what to start....so i can figure out wich lawer is lying .... thank you very much in advance.

[dmaza]

I have very hmm... compicated story. I came to us on J1 visa and then applied for assylum(there where reasons) but beed denied. Then I apllied for appeal, after BIA denied it (they denied it 100 % now) I needed to aplly for federal court, my lawer failed to cantact me and I suddenly find myself as illigal...Then I met a guy and fell in love, but he was merried this time and waiting for divorce, we decided to wait for him to be free and get married, but while we were waiting i got deportation issued( police extually came to my house to arrest me , but i wasn't there this time), now he is free and we are getting maried... We went to 5 different lawers and they all saing different things, like one ove them saing i need to go back and then try to get back in other one saing i need to file 130 and then take my chanses on interview( his words you need to roll the dice of beeing or not deported) I cannot open my assylum case becouse country conditions have changed. So i'm don't really now what to do... my fiancee is here ,my mom, my uncle and his family... i 've been here for 7 years all my friends are here. I don't want to roll the dice with my live, because if i'm stuck back there i just don' t have anybody and anyhting there. i'm not criminal, I just want to live normal life, to go to school have a baby and so on.I don't know wich lawer to trust. Is it possible to do something without leaving the country... if yes maybe you can tell me with what to start....so i can figure out wich lawer is lying .... thank you very much in advance.

[Kollerkrot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
It wasn't the police who came to your house. Although you weren't taken into custody you may already have an order of removal entered in absentia. This depends on a couple things. One being, did you receive a notice to appear? Did you keep your address up to date with USCIS?

None of the lawyers are lying. Each may have a different opinion in how to approach the case. You'll need to hire one quickly. The longer you wait, the more difficult it gets. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

J1s, Davdah knows about J1s. Stick with Davdah!

[dmaza]

thanks a lot, but what mean order of removal entered in absentia? is it good or bad? I didn't received any notice...unless it been lost ,because i mooved.... i don't keep my adress up to date becouse i'm afraid of being taken in. And i cannot choose lawer because evry one of them is saying that his only way is good...I already done mistakes by taken bad lawers and now I'm afraid of doing it one more time. i was trying to do everything by law and correctly , but now i'm in situation that i'm scared of everything and afraid of walking on the street...****s... thanks again for reply....

[dmaza]

Oh my God, you know so much... so you think if i don't have return rule its possible to do it without leaving US?

[dmaza]

I mean is it possible to do it just through marriage, if it's imposibble to reopen my assylum case?

[4now]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dmaza:
Oh my God, you know so much... so you think if i don't have return rule its possible to do it without leaving US? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yes, if you do not have the 2yr requirement, it is possible. Now you have bigger struggles ahead of you than that if you were ordered deported and did not leave.

First of all, get married right away as Davdah suggested. Start all the evidence of valid relationship etc, bank accounts , leases bla bla. Your relationship will be under major scrutiny because of the situation.

You must be very careful too. Once you file the I-130, they will know where you are and they will come for you. You will be placed in detention center. Those visits will usually come early hours in the morning between 6 am and 8am. Maybe even at your job. Be prepared.

It was foolish of you not to keep your address up to date so that you know what was going on in your case after the denial. Your lawyer should have explained that you would be in removal proceedings. He probably did and you took the route of head in the sand approach to just stay at whatever cost.

Eventually , this will work out for you, but it is not going to be a quick fix, nor will it be cheap.

YOu need to find out about your case without getting caught. Go back to that lawyer to get information, because I am sure his file was updated from uscis as he was probably the address on file to receive paperwork.

You have not given us any timeline in this matter from the denial of the asylum case.

Is your other family that is here legal? If not, you want to make sure that you do not jeopardize them by living with them.

[4now]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dmaza:
I mean is it possible to do it just through marriage, if it's imposibble to reopen my assylum case? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your asylum is done. finished as it was denied twice. It was perceived as bogus claim.


YOur problem is you probably received nta and did not appear. You would have been offered voluntary departure at that time. Instead it appears that you were orederd deported in abstenia.

[dmaza]

my mom having green card, waiting for citizenship, my uncle is already citizen, so i don't think there will be problem. i been denied on asylum 3 years ago, then I waited for first decesion on appeal for 2 years then i waited for a year for my boyfriend to divorce. Nobody ever told me it was so serious, I know i made a mistake by trusting lawers to much. it was pretty long time ago so i cannot even contact that lawer right now. Extually i found out more information from you then i did from all my lawers. You said they going to take me to detention center, but for how long????? is it possible somehow to avoid it, i'm already for a year in constant fear,i have panick attack at least every day, i would just go crazy if i would know that somebody will come in the morning and take me somewhere...i don't know maybe go away somewhere for that time, it could take 6-8 mionth? thank again

[dmaza]

I cheked i don't have that return rule, it was simple work and travel visa for 3 month, for sure i will not do it by myself, i'll get an attorney and i hope the good one, I don't care about how much it will cost or how long, as long as everything is done right, but with my bad previous expirience i want to know as much as i can so i can follow my lawer somehow i hope that he will be able to preven from ICE showing up, truly , i feel like kinda a criminal...i guess i'm , but the idea that somebody can come and get me just driving me crazy... i feel much better after you told me all this,thanks

[4now]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">my mom having green card, waiting for citizenship, my uncle is already citizen, so i don't think there will be problem. i been denied on asylum 3 years ago, then I waited for first decesion on appeal for 2 years then i waited for a year for my boyfriend to divorce. Nobody ever told me it was so serious, I know i made a mistake by trusting lawers to much. it was pretty long time ago so i cannot even contact that lawer right now. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


It cannot have been that long ago that your lawyer notified you that the case was denied on appeal. Give us that date. From what you are saying, ICE has been looking for you for almost a year now since they came to the door? So this means that the deportation order occured probably 18 months ago.


I am no trying to scare you, but you need to be smart right now. Yes, some people sit in detention center for 5 to 8 months before they can even get out . they already know where you are if they came before. Make sure that you are not staying at where you have your address listed. This will cut down on chance of getting picked up.


Get new attorney and file the paperwork after the marriage.


Another thing, pleae understand Davdah's advice to file the motion to reopen is not about tring to get your asylum approved. It is a strategy used that will help you to avoid detention issues. YOur attorney will understand. if he or she doesnt, then dont use them.

[dmaza]

ok , let me remember the dates, in 2006 i been denied in court for asylum, i took another lawer( because first one just screw it up) this lawer applied for apeal and told me to wait until first decision , he told me it could take up to 2 years, so he will contact me about it, he told me that this decision will be 100% denied(after 9/11 they always say no at this step), so i waited, and waited, sometimes i was calling him, but got one answere it's in progress,during this time i moved to another state, i called him and change my adress( no stupid not to)my phone and e-mail stayed the same, after some time( fall of 2008) i e-mail him to ask about my case, and found out that letter was send to my previous adress 3 month ago, and returned( because i wasn't there anymore) so my status is illigal right now,thank you very much, have a grate day. I thouht that i already illigal so there is not a hury. So I decided to wait for my boyfriend getting divorce.By that time nobody told me about deportation or that i need to keep up with my adress and etc. I moove in with my boyfriend and my friend stayed at my old apt( electrical bill stayed under my name).In fall of 2009 my friend calling me to tell, that police was coming in 6 in the morning looking for me, with my big picture, 5 men and one women. i didn't know even what to think because i know i didn't do anything criminal... so we hired lawer in my new state, at least to find out, he found that it's been imigration services and that i have deportation on, he tried to reopen my case based on my asylum , but couldn't, so only one way to open it,it's through the mariage, my boyfriend divorce got a little longer then we expected, we getting married in a week, so it's almost a year after i found out. I guess this it....

[federale86]

If you were related to President Obama,you would have no problem. Otherwise, since you are married, you can apply to adjust status before the Executive Office For Immigration Review (immigration court).

[dmaza]

i wish i was related to President(i even can sing National athem)but .....i can adjust status9 at least try) but i need somehow avoid deportation before i 'll get this ajustment...and this is main idea...somehow to find the way to reopen my case without being taken to custody.

[Someone12]

dmaza...what an appropriate name (i.e. dumba$$)..who is the actual liar? It's not your attorneys, it's you, you lied from the very moment you obtained a visa, then tried more lies to gain asylum (being a goat phukker is not grounds to be awarded aslyum)...no one is going to shed a single tear when you get deported...I will applaud....go back to your flea-infested country and try your lies out on your own government officials....what a dirtbag.