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  • dev199108
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  • BenjaminLudwick
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    Originally posted by ProudUSC View Post
    Another example of flawed US immigration laws. Why wouldn't we want these kids to further their education?

    Marcelino Benitez said his best academic year was 12th grade. He got all A's and B's, learned to install heating and air-conditioning systems in a vocational training program and won a college scholarship. But unlike many of his classmates, he dreaded graduation. After that ceremony, the Mexican immigrant had a diploma from Virginia but still lacked the other documents he needed to make his way in the United States.
    "I was thinking, 'After high school, I am done. This is the end of me,' " recalled the 2006 graduate of Dominion High School in Sterling. "Without my Social Security card, I thought I was never going to be anybody."
    I feel like a good follow up research project would be to test the students for sheer (self-assessed) confidence. When you’re confident, you participate in class more, tackle daunting tasks with a better attitude, recover from setbacks etc. Maybe that’s the missing factor that explains another chunk of the difference in academic year performance?

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  • nekein
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    Great news. Thanks for sharing. Mywegmansconnect
    Last edited by nekein; 11-29-2019, 10:49 AM. Reason: spelling

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  • ProudUSC
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    I wasn't making a comparison with the inner city kids at all. I believe they should have every opportunity to attend college; however, there is financial assistance available to them should they aspire for a higher education.

    The point I am trying to make is how flawed our laws are. Why did our government allow for providing an education for undocumented children in the first place when they have no intention of enabling these same kids an affordable means to attend at the very least, a community college? The investment of time and money on these kids seems wasted if they are not afforded the opportunity to obtain higher education at a reasonable cost. Is this how our government is insuring that it will maintain a work force for the jobs 'Americans won't do'?

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    sorry, but what about inner city kids, or kids whose mother is a hard working AMERICAN single mom...what do they get? Nada. And we are supposed to lose sleep and wring our hands over some illegal alien brat? WHY? AMERICANS are first in this country. This clown's parents STOLE his education from hard working AMerican taxpayers....they paid hardly a penny since no doubt they were working under the table....I say no more....when the brats finish high school on my dime, the next 'freebie' they get is the boot in the a$$. We need to put American children far far ahead of every illegal alien brat....I don't care if they were brought here by irresponsible parents...and, another item...we (congress) should pass a law that NO illegal brat can ever become a US citizen ...EVER...that way, there is no reward for the family that has LIED, CHEATED and STOLEN so much from America....we give them nothing.

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  • 4now
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    that sounds like it is from a household where children have lazy mentality. and it is too much for them to switch between languages. sad and this is parents fault for putting them into this situation. But it is not the usa duty to spend money and make provisions around problem that some illegal unrightfully made for themselves or for their children.



    Which speaking of "putting ones self in the shoes.. but I think that was Jake that said that. but I too do not live in Texas or california so I do not have these strong personal feelings about Mexicans that some have.

    I only see the issue as exactly what it is. illegal. but i am very far removed and many times i get so upset when i read what appears to be a two fold bash of ethnic and illegal issue mixed into one. I can seperate it, but I dont live there and if I were in their shoes and living it and seeing it happen in front of them and then hear that the state is near bankrupt becuase of being overwhelmed..in paying out benefits b/c of illegals which would affect me personally now. Then maybe I would feel different and would share their same perspecitve.


    See you in Monaco

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  • ProudUSC
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    I know on a personal level some immigrant kids who came here at a very early age and barely speak their mother tongue, much less read and write it. They are being taught English in our schools! I even know a couple of kids (one Hispanic, one Asian) who refused to speak Spanish in their homes - rebeled against it. These people are all legal of course. But, I would think the same would hold true for many of the undocumented kids as well.

    But, I don't live in California either

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  • 4now
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ProudUSC:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">why cant they go to college in their own country where they came from proud? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    If they were older when they were brought here, no that much of a problem. But if they were carried over in strollers or snuglies, the likelihood of them having proficiency in Spanish is slim. I'm not talking about speaking the language. I'm talking about reading and writing it. These kids are learning English in our schools. <span class="ev_code_BLUE">I am quite certain that colleges in Mexico have minimum standards on language arts and most of these kids wouldn't meet them.</span>
    Your turn, 4Now. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


    Proud.... You are joking right?

    lol You can tell that you are american where bilingual concept does not seem to exist here.

    Proud. if their parents dont speak english.. what language do you think the child learned until he went to school? These children are bilingual. read and write from language of their country. and fluently too.

    Does the usa schools not offer spanish i, ii, iii, and iv in the schools. yes they do. writing and reading no problem unless you are not college material to begin with.

    How many foreign students come here to go to college Proud. A ton.

    How was my serve



    Proud..

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  • ProudUSC
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">why cant they go to college in their own country where they came from proud? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    If they were older when they were brought here, no that much of a problem. But if they were carried over in strollers or snuglies, the likelihood of them having proficiency in Spanish is slim. I'm not talking about speaking the language. I'm talking about reading and writing it. These kids are learning English in our schools. I am quite certain that colleges in Mexico have minimum standards on language arts and most of these kids wouldn't meet them.

    Your turn, 4Now.

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  • Beverly
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 4now:
    They are allowed to attend public school

    they should be grateful.

    If they want advanced education. then they should do what this kid did. put the effort in and the reward will come.
    Ther is no reason for them to throw themselves away like leftovers.

    go home . get in line in a legal way and come back and go to college. very simple.

    AS a matter of fact, these kids should take the good education that was given them and they should return to their countries and use this knoweldge to make a turnaround in that country. this would be the payoff for us edducating them. or why cant they go back to their country and go to college there?

    why cant they go to college in their own country where they came from proud?

    usa didnt start the fire. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    My sentiments exactly. However, what they really want is to steal WHAT WE HAVE since all the heavy lifting has already been done. They are determined to ignore our laws, cram themselves, their culture, their financial burdens and language down our throats whether we like it or not. They are here for a reconquista make no mistake about that. The reaction of the bleeding hearts and the corrupt in or government and corporate America are handing them this country on a silver platter . . . just the way LaRaza planned/envisioned it.

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  • 4now
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    They are allowed to attend public school

    they should be grateful.

    If they want advanced education. then they should do what this kid did. put the effort in and the reward will come.
    Ther is no reason for them to throw themselves away like leftovers.

    go home . get in line in a legal way and come back and go to college. very simple.

    AS a matter of fact, these kids should take the good education that was given them and they should return to their countries and use this knoweldge to make a turnaround in that country. this would be the payoff for us edducating them. or why cant they go back to their country and go to college there?

    why cant they go to college in their own country where they came from proud?

    usa didnt start the fire.

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  • Beverly
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    4NOW, while I am happy that this young man was able to come back into the country LEGALLY and complete his education, I agree with you that he should not be treated any differently than students from other countries who OBEY OUR LAWS BY GOING THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS TO COME HERE LEGALLY TO COMPLETE THEIR EDUCATION.

    The fact that THE CRIMINAL MINDED PARENTS of these children BRING THEM HERE ILLEGALLY IS NOT AMERICA'S FAULT NOR IS IT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTINUE THEIR TRADITION OF LAWLESSNESS AND PAY FOR IT WITH OUT TAX DOLLARS AND A SMILE.

    Because they wish to ignore our laws its easier for illegal aliens and their supporters to play the violin/sympathy card and blame us for GRACIOUSLY ALLOWING THEM TO BE EDUCATED WHILE HERE ILLEGALLY AND EXPECT US TO PAY FOR SECONDARY EDUCATION WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS AS WELL. ALLOWING THIS WILL CREATE YET ANOTHER AVENUE FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS TO OVERCROWD OUR SCHOOLS AND LIMIT THE NUMBER OF SEATS TO HIGHER EDUCATION AVAILALBE FOR AMERICAN COLLEGE STUDENTS.

    ONCE THEY TURN 18, AMERICAN CHILDREN are kicked off of welfare, are no longer eligible for social security benefits and parents are no longer able to claim them as dependents and collect unemployment for them, if they lose their jobs; but parents are responsible for paying back student loans granted to them via the government. I'm sure you like I find this a travesty.

    As for twice defeated DREAM ACT: Obama and Durbin (the authors) caught a ton of flack from the American taxpayers which is why it went down in flames. I still get letters from the su-ck up D-ic-kie Durbin who will be up for re-election soon and I predict the voters of Illinois will end his career because of his illegal alien cheerleading (I am a registered INDEPENDENT hahaaaaaa . .) and wouldn't vote for him or Obama again if my life depended on it.

    More whining and blaming US citizens because illegal alien parents brought these "Dreamies" here as minor children and blaming us for it because we don't think they're special AND THAT NOTHING IS EVER THEIR FAULT*rolls eyes*

    The problem with the Dream Act is that these "children" (primarily from Mexico Of Course) are NOW ADULTS WHO ARE AWARE THAT THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY (THEY WHINE ABOUT IT DAILY ON THEIR WEBSITE) WHO SHOULD GO HOME AND APPLY FOR STATUS TO RETURN TO THE US LEGALLY IF THEY ARE SO DESPERATE TO CONTINUE THEIR EDUCATION, INSTEAD OF SITTING AROUND PRAYING FOR AMNESTY AND PLOTTING AND PLANNING HOW TO ILLEGALLY STAY IN THE COUNTRY AND OBTAIN DRIVER'S LICENSES AND AMERICAN TAX PAYER FUNDED SCHOLARSHIPS.

    But of course they think they're "special" and that the laws should not apply to them because they have been allowed to ignore them for almost TWO decades.

    The DREAM ACT would have allowed them to remain in this country and receive IN STATE TUITION WHEREVER THEY HAPPEN TO HAVE LANDED, AND THE INFAMOUNS "PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP" AKA AMNESTY, WHICH WOULD THEN TURN INTO MORE CHAIN MIGRATION, yet American kids would still have to pay out of state costs if they attend college in a state that they were not a LEGAL RESIDENT OF.

    Any wonder why the American taxpayers screamed fraud and abuse on that one?

    BTW here's the link to the website of these fruit cakes who claim they are "Americans" yet like ALL illegal aliens, they don't believe in the 1st Amendment. Try signing onto this board and voicing your true feelings and see what happens:

    http://www.dreamact.info/

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  • ProudUSC
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    4Now - the point I was trying to make is there are few avenues open for undocumented kids (who are legally allowed to attend schools in US). You know I was a proponent of Dream Act - lol!

    I'm glad things worked out for this kid. There are so many more, though, who are going to be thrown away like yesterday's leftovers. If they are going to be cast aside in the long run, why does the USA allow them to attend our schools?

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  • 4now
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Nearly two years later, after spending about $10,000 and more than a year back in Mexico, Benitez has a fresh visa pasted into his passport. Now he is back in Northern Virginia, ready to pursue more skilled jobs in construction and eager to earn a degree in psychology or theology.

    "I can finally do what I want to do," he said. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Proud

    Very good article. Just supports what i always say that there is the avenue to get the legal status . return to country of origin before the bar and apply for the student visa.

    Of course you have someone to stay with because your relatives are there. the system works. and this person was not sitting back and waiting 4 the the gobmnent to pass the cheese please.

    I just hope he and they are realizing that that the only thing legal that he has is "status". and that when the f1 is finished, and if he doesnt pursue h visa or get married to usc.. then he will be required to once again return to his home country.

    Hats off to this guy.

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