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  • Originally posted by klinus:
    To be candid, highly intelligent, yes. Knowing how to use the quote system, no.

    Thanks proud USC - just saw your posting after posting this.

    Changing the posts is usually to correct glaring typos.

    This response is mostly for 4now, in acknowledgment of her recognition of the Stones spoof and the awesome slimy nuke (btw how do I paste a word document with a inserted picture into the board?)

    Would things make a difference if it was known that she was originally sent back to Canada since it was not working, and she went off the pill and I get a call saying "you is daddy"? Marriage in May child born August. Religious and cultural background make an abortion out of the question but lets be clear that this was closer to shotgun than "her prince charming, her best friend, her lifelong companion" as in abortion was not an option and I was not going to abandon my child (son as it later turned out to be)

    For three years she had a parasite's wet dream, the USC husband who took care of living expenses and did all the care of the son, including physician visits, speech therapy appointment etc. etc. and a biyearly visit back to Canada. Then she blew it, despite the warning signs (separate bedrooms etc. etc.) by insisting on taking the little boy to Canada, just after he had had a simultaneous adnectomy and myringotomy for her nephew's wedding, right at the cusp of her date for removing CPR. (not too swift, I know but hey ...) The only sure shot way to guarantee his stay in the US was the Court Order that automatically keeps him within the State that accompanies the divorce petition. This is what triggered the divorce; again, cultural and religious reasons would have kept me in the sham that the marriage was. Also, for the record, I was unaware of the penalties around driving until I went to the police station to report her vandalism of the house and they asked me what her driving license number and I said she did not have a (CA) license that they said that I should be grateful, since the penalty is a month's impoundment of the vehicle, an impound fee of $200 and a tow fee of $1800

    While I initially thought that the reason for the reason for her to go to the shelter was to claim abused spouse for immigration purposes, I now know that the reason was to claim child abuse so as to get sole custody and the concomitant child support with it. She took her *** story to an immigrant priest at our local parish, who not only wrote her a $7500 check towards her attorney's fees but also got her a spot at a shelter that this parish runs along with several other Churches. This, BTW, is why she is still at the shelter for 4 months despite the rebuttal of the abuse by Family Courts. In continuation of the not too swift nature of my wife, she made sure that I got a copy of the check (nah nah nah)

    Being a fairly religious person who has seen the defilement of the Church in the media, I asked the Church as to why they made this ex-parte decision to side with a non-parishioner against a parishioner. Said priest invited me to "pursue this civilly". Given that there is already plenty of that, to the tune of over a Billion $ over the past 20 years, I simply googled the list of all journalists who have published 2 or more negative articles about priest pedophilia. Rather than deal with over a 1000 reporters, I simply passed the story on to the local publication. The ensuing story resulted in the s**t hitting the fan, particularly with the local parishioners who were real pissed about the flagrant misuse of their contributions. The Bishop was pissed, especially since he knew nothing about this. I see a posting in Kosovo, Beijing or Darfur in said priest's not too distant future.

    Somebody asked the question about her being a good mother. Let me offer the following facts: (1) She tried to browbeat the child's pediatrician into calling CPS for child abuse after being educated about the procedures about reporting child abuse by the local police (who also introduced her to the concept of 911) while my son was squirming and itching from scabies (2) took him to an emergency room at 11:00 p.m. on a Friday night in part of an East Bay city that I would avoid in daylight for a differential diagnosis of Fleas, not Scabies (3) refuses to allow him to be seen by a neurologist despite a referral from his pediatrician etc. Hey Hudson, if you are reading this, now you see why I say that between his normal routine care and fixing the innumerable routine pestilences from the shelter and discovering his latest development disorder, I simply do not have the bandwidth to alienate my son from his mother. However, it is a fact that when he is with his father, he's back in the home that he has been all his life, he has his own bed, he is safe and not being bitten, and when dad drops him off at the police station dad parks his car right in front of the police station, rather than Mom who does not want to be captured on the police video driving him in violation of the Court order.
    My, my, my. HHHHOOOOOWWWWWWWWW CCCCCCOOOONNNNNNNNVVVVVVEEEEEENNNNNIIIIIIIEEEEENNNNNNTTTTTTTTTTT

    Well, lets take a couple of your premises, shall we:
    1) You said, things weren't working out, she went home, and then got pregnant. Your premise is that it is all her fault for getting pregnant, getting married, and now the divorce. So, why were the two of you not working out? And what were you afraid of culturally and religiously to agree to such a marriage (that means a shotgun marriage)? Additionally, she cold have had the child and you paid child support. But I suspect that you either want the child or not all person.

    2) You alluded to that she was a leach on the marriage. For this premise to be accurate, she would have to had agreed to such and not want to work. But of course, you being the man wanted to do all the work and she was just the poor, dumb housewife. Neither can be proven in court to any great degree and I have a feeling this is what the court is wrestling with is your intent from the beginning as well as hers.

    3) You said that she made false child abuse claims. I understand and respect your belief that there was no child abuse. But as I have repeated myself, a denied TRO is not indicative of guilt or innocence of said abuse, even if the TRO was granted. That is how the law works.

    4) The parish will not drop her onto the streets simply because of a denied TRO, Klinus. You must be aware of that. Were will she go? To your home where she does not trust you? All you want is for her to get on the street so that she can be deported and give you sole custody of the son. Is that your intent?

    5) I am still waiting for said article, Klinus.

    6) She was foolish in demanding the pediatrician to report child abuse. But so are you with your attempts. And all for "the love of the child?" But none of this is indicative of her being a bad mother, well at least not yet. But this does show your malicious, insipid, indiscriminate, and unpalatable way you have described her. You wanted the marriage knowing that she would do something stupid or will not know your true intent because she is probably naive. JMO.
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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    • Originally posted by ProudUSC:
      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">But hey, this site and this site are for both you.
      I call this hitting below the belt. Klinus didn't deserve this type of response, Hudson. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
      Well, when Klinus targeted the messenger and not the message in his last response, and he did this on more than one occasion, the response was exact and appropriate this time.
      "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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      • In reponse to you last para, I do not profess to see the future, except when there is near certainity. That is exclusively Alan Greenspan and God's prerogative.

        Nevertheless, I find it somewhat surprising that you are unwilling to take my odds. Would you prefer 50 to 1?

        Being a father is a pretty gratifying experience, Hudson. Try it sometime, if you can.

        Whoops! Estoppeled!

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        • In reponse to you last para, I do not profess to see the future, except when there is near certainity. That is exclusively Alan Greenspan and God's prerogative.

          Nevertheless, I find it somewhat surprising that you are unwilling to take my odds. Would you prefer 50 to 1?

          Being a father is a pretty gratifying experience, Hudson. Try it sometime, if you can.

          Whoops! Estoppeled!
          I am a father and a godfather, Klinus.

          This is for the rest of the gang. Klinus has described the wife as someone who is not trustworthy, as someone who was only after the GC, as someone who kidnapped the child, and as someone who is purposely giving he child a communicable disease. there might a one or tow other items that I have missed.

          I have no doubt what Klinus is saying or arguing is what he believes. But what about his intent? His heart? Is he doing this because there is no recourse? Or he is posting because his heart is not for what is right? Is the intent to destroy the wife in a divorce proceeding? Is that the wife's intent? Is it anyone who agrees with either Klinus or with the wife?

          So, the next question is why people gravitate toward Klinus presuming to know half the facts? Is it because he is a USC? A male? A father? Or is it something much darker that one does not want to admit?

          So, how does one respond? If one resopnds acknowledging Klinus and not the other possibilities or probabilities, then is that person no better or different than what Klinus is doing? And if the OP was a malicious intent, then if agreeing with Klinus, then is the response also being malicious? But the rub is whether or not if Klinus or the wife is being malicious. How does one differentiate between whether one is being malicious or not? The only answer is to challenge the OP, at least in from my point of view.
          "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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          • How does one differentiate between whether one is being malicious or not? The only answer is to challenge the OP, at least in from my point of view.
            With all due respect, Hudson, there's a right and a wrong way to challenge the OP. Of course we don't know the wife's side, but the possibility exists that Klinus is telling the truth. Throwing accusations and insults at him, imo, is not the way to go about getting more information about his situation. Furthermore, providing links to 'hater' websites is giving visibility to these sites that probably have a large enough following as it is.

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            • I have a very small comment. The concerns raised by Hudson are very, very valid. Some folks tend to believe the USC and completely disregard the "other side" and this is a conduct that many judges have followed resulting in repeated reversals. Simply put, at least in the United States any judgement of credibility requires analysis of all facts, from both sides, and an understanding of the issues at hand.

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              • Yes, all facts need to be examined in order to determine the appropriate decision by the court. However, Klinus mentioned many posts ago about there being a backlog in the California judicial process. It could be months (his son has already been in a shelter for 4 months) before his case is heard. Meanwhile, this poor little boy, I'm afraid, is going to suffer undeserved hardship. Bottom line, we shouldn't be the ones to throw judgement at Klinus. He came to the board for assistance and has been treated a little harshly, imo.

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                • Is there a way to know if my "supposedly" abused wife has filed for VAWA petetion?

                  brief overview:Got married in 2005 (<2 years) and she wanted to come here at any cost and we are here, and we are divorced now.

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                  • Originally posted by ProudUSC:
                    Yes, all facts need to be examined in order to determine the appropriate decision by the court. However, Klinus mentioned many posts ago about there being a backlog in the California judicial process. It could be months (his son has already been in a shelter for 4 months) before his case is heard. Meanwhile, this poor little boy, I'm afraid, is going to suffer undeserved hardship. Bottom line, we shouldn't be the ones to throw judgement at Klinus. He came to the board for assistance and has been treated a little harshly, imo.
                    A little update:

                    Its now 6 months and she is still in a (different) shelter. She has figured out that my son is her ticket to free boarding and meals since they are not going to toss her out on the streets. My son hs been diagnosed as having autism spectrum and consistency of environment is critical to the well being of an autistic child:

                    http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publi...symptoms.shtml

                    As children, they might spend hours lining up their cars and trains in a certain way, rather than using them for pretend play. If someone accidentally moves one of the toys, the child may be tremendously upset. ASD children need, and demand, absolute consistency in their environment. A slight change in any routine"”in mealtimes, dressing, taking a bath, going to school at a certain time and by the same route"”can be extremely disturbing. Perhaps order and sameness lend some stability in a world of confusion

                    Because he is already enrolled in the local school district she would have to find the means to live here to get to the consistency requirement and I have no idea when that is going to happen,,,
                    On that topic is there anybody out there wo knows an autism expert who can testify to the above? God knows the Family Court will need a live human expert than the NIH.

                    She managed to get a driver's license, even if she used VAWA that she could have proved legal residency.

                    Its not that I am anti immigrant I just think that under the circumstances there needs to be no mercy and eradication of parasites

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                    • Did you notice how he said that "she was happy until I filed for divorce" and later on - "there were warning sighs and it was not
                      working"? And how he conveniently applied for the divorce just before the removing of conditions... They all do. They marry, and everything is fine, but when it comes to removing, the "love" suddenly disappears...
                      The story is crystal clear for me: that woman got involved with this man, and hoped to marry him (he sustained that hope, because her type
                      usually does not go on without). For her it was a begging of a commitment, for him - free ***, free washing, cleaning and so on.
                      When he didn't need her anymore he "sent" (his own expression, as if she was a parcel). She, a smart woman, seeing that he did not intend to marry her in a hurry, quietly got off the pill, hoping that he either marry or pay child support. She called him and announced the
                      fact. Our hero calculates on a bit of paper - child support comes up costly. He thinks some, and makes up a plan. He marries the woman and
                      brings her back. Note that he never bothered to get her a driver's licence, a sign that he didn't intend this to last. He quietly endures for two years. She is quite happy, her dream came true. He waits up till 2 years mark and his "love" is gone in one day. No, there were no signs, they (those who marry a foreigner for 2 years to send her back afterwards) usually do not display signs.
                      His plan worked. Now she was to leave, and he - to have the custody, no child support! He just didn't want that child, and was trapped into the marriage - oh, allowed himself to do so, as a cheaper solution.
                      That is why he wants her out of the country - so as not to pay!
                      The woman is not a fool, she understood why the "love" was suddenly gone, took the child and went to the shelter.
                      Here is the story in a nutshell for you.
                      Ah, and that is what he is fighting tooth and nail, and that is why he wants her deported, and that is why he wants custody.
                      And he came here to pick up new hints and new ways to do her in better. Some indignant posters suggested new ways, I noticed. He is a
                      pickabrain, you know.
                      It's always something fishy when there "love" ends just 90 days prior to the removal of conditions.

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                      • The reason why I filed for divorce is because she wanted to take my son to Canada right on the cusp of her terminal residency expiration.

                        Despite all the damage she was doing to him – smoking 2 packs .day through her entire term of pregnancy and letting him watch 5 hours of TV per day while she smoked in the garage. If my objective was sole custody I would have pulled the plug a long time (and in 20./20 hindsight my son would be in a lot better position than he is now.

                        Few people understand that child support is peanuts compared to the price of a contested custody battle. With the current custody arrangement the best she could hope to achieve is $500/month . $6K.year for 14 years or $90K total before he turns 18. We have already spent $12,500 and its not even 6 months, and I have not yet uncapped the 16" guns – testimony from the boys at the NIH that wrote the autism article and the California Department of education who will testify to the truth of the autism and stability requirement, failing which the cost of education spirals to over $2.5 Million.

                        For those who will accuse me of wanting sole custody, my first and only responsibility is to my son. His mother is holding on to him for dear life, despite knowing about an autistic spectrum's requirement for stability. In addition to the changes in shelters, we have almost daily turnover of the fine denizens of said shelters. Apart from my parental responsibility and my need to protect my son and heir, I figure that spending half a million now is worth while so that he can have a "normal" life and be able to take over my business when I check out...

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                        • Klinus - forgive me if you've already shared this, but why are they allowing your son to stay in the shelter with your wife? Considering his medical condition and diagnosis, why would any family court deem this to be the most appropriate environment for him? I guess I must be missing some pieces of the puzzle. I would think that the welfare of the child would come first.

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                          • Originally posted by ProudUSC:
                            Klinus - forgive me if you've already shared this, but why are they allowing your son to stay in the shelter with your wife? Considering his medical condition and diagnosis, why would any family court deem this to be the most appropriate environment for him? I guess I must be missing some pieces of the puzzle. I would think that the welfare of the child would come first.
                            Proud USC:

                            Combination of issues:
                            1) the check that the Church wrote has run out and so opposing counsel is simply ignoring my attorney, which would be the logical way to resolve this.
                            2) The court calendar is currently lagging by 8 weeks and this is the vacation time. Further, this data on his condition is new news and the Court is not aware of this, and typically requires a lot of prodding to take notice
                            3) I finally got a psychologist to verify that my son is spectrum autistic(even though Mom refused permission) and so I was able to turn to autism organizations who helped me (see 4)
                            4) I have just gotten together enough material for my attorney to ask for an ex-parte without my being slammed for attorney's fees; with luck I will in front of the Court by the end of this month

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                            • Originally posted by davdah:
                              ProudUSC, part of the problem is the courts usually assume mother knows best. The dad is viewed as merely a source of money and has to fight for anything beyond that. Ask any of your divorced female friends. How many of them in their initial filing agreed to share custody with the dad? The answer, nearly zero. All wanted sole physical/legal custody. Why? Its all about money. The less the dad can see the kids the more money the mom gets.
                              That scenario works when you have "normal" kids involved. My income level excludes my son from healthy families (even though the parasite tried to enroll him there even though the administrator of that plan is Blue Shield, a really bad HMO and he is on one of their best PPOs); mental health is not normally covered and so far his bill has run me $18K and counting. Fortunately I was able to get a substitute teacher from the District's special needs school to do home schooling while he with me and not in the District School at a very reasonable price.

                              The parasite is in denial about his autism (Not sure if that is she has figured out the stability and consistency cannot be achieved at the roach/*****/druggie motel that she inhabits will fail the test); so even if she got sole custody he will be toast because she does not know how to work the system.

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                              • Originally posted by davdah:
                                ProudUSC, part of the problem is the courts usually assume mother knows best. The dad is viewed as merely a source of money and has to fight for anything beyond that. Ask any of your divorced female friends. How many of them in their initial filing agreed to share custody with the dad? The answer, nearly zero. All wanted sole physical/legal custody. Why? Its all about money. The less the dad can see the kids the more money the mom gets.
                                I agree this isn't fair for the dads. I only have a few divorced female friends. In both cases, shared custody was the decision handed down by the court. I believe kids should have open access to both parents, regardless of how much the parents dislike each other. In Klinus' case, it appears his son is being used as a pawn. That will have lasting, negative effects on him, particularly in light of his medical condition.

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