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    There may be a way out of the stalemate between the House and Senate on immigration reform. It involves a legislative compromise.

    Now, if you're one of those folks who are more interested in sounding off than in finding solutions, or if you see the issue as nothing more than a club to bludgeon political opponents, you need not read any further. If you just want to be angry, then go be angry and forget about politics altogether, because you won't be happy no matter what Congress does.

    However, if you fall into the camp of Americans who want Congress to stop playing games and actually fix a broken immigration system, then there's a new plan out there that you should take a serious look at "” especially if you're looking for the middle-ground solution that doesn't absolve the sins of those who came illegally but does provide a mechanism for guest workers who want to come legally.

    That's the key. If you don't really care about terms such as "legal" or "illegal" and if you just think the United States shouldn't be taking in any more people from foreign countries (read: Mexico) even if they come through legal channels as guest workers, then stop reading. Because for you, this was never about border security as much as restricting immigration.

    If you're still with us, you should take a look at a bill proposed by Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., one of the most solidly conservative members of Congress and an opponent of amnesty. The Pence plan, called the Border Integrity and Immigration Reform Act, would require illegal immigrants to visit Ellis Island-type centers in Mexico to fill out paperwork before re-entering this country legally as guest workers. The measure would do this by privatizing the issuance of work permits and letting private companies match willing workers with available jobs, with the cost going to those seeking work as opposed to being picked up by taxpayers. After a background check, guest workers would receive a tamper-proof ID card to make it easier for businesses to hire only those who are legally able to work.

    This should satisfy House Republican leaders, who have refused to accept any plan that allows illegal immigrants to stay in the United States without first returning to their home countries. The idea apparently intrigues President Bush who, according to White House Press Secretary Tony Show, called the Pence plan "interesting." Like a lone but sane voice in the wilderness, Bush continues to say that it's impractical to deport 12 million people.

    The White House also is looking at "triggers" that would allow for guest workers and citizenship for illegal immigrants only after preset goals for increasing border security have been met.

    These ideas aren't perfect. Nothing is. No matter what ideas people come up with about what to do with 12 million illegal immigrants, there will be those who find fault. Which could explain why House Republican leaders simply chickened out and ducked the question altogether in putting together their enforcement-only bill last year.

    That's not acceptable. A compromise might be.

    "” The San Diego Union-Tribune

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/c...MIG_S10714.htm

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    There may be a way out of the stalemate between the House and Senate on immigration reform. It involves a legislative compromise.

    Now, if you're one of those folks who are more interested in sounding off than in finding solutions, or if you see the issue as nothing more than a club to bludgeon political opponents, you need not read any further. If you just want to be angry, then go be angry and forget about politics altogether, because you won't be happy no matter what Congress does.

    However, if you fall into the camp of Americans who want Congress to stop playing games and actually fix a broken immigration system, then there's a new plan out there that you should take a serious look at "” especially if you're looking for the middle-ground solution that doesn't absolve the sins of those who came illegally but does provide a mechanism for guest workers who want to come legally.

    That's the key. If you don't really care about terms such as "legal" or "illegal" and if you just think the United States shouldn't be taking in any more people from foreign countries (read: Mexico) even if they come through legal channels as guest workers, then stop reading. Because for you, this was never about border security as much as restricting immigration.

    If you're still with us, you should take a look at a bill proposed by Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., one of the most solidly conservative members of Congress and an opponent of amnesty. The Pence plan, called the Border Integrity and Immigration Reform Act, would require illegal immigrants to visit Ellis Island-type centers in Mexico to fill out paperwork before re-entering this country legally as guest workers. The measure would do this by privatizing the issuance of work permits and letting private companies match willing workers with available jobs, with the cost going to those seeking work as opposed to being picked up by taxpayers. After a background check, guest workers would receive a tamper-proof ID card to make it easier for businesses to hire only those who are legally able to work.

    This should satisfy House Republican leaders, who have refused to accept any plan that allows illegal immigrants to stay in the United States without first returning to their home countries. The idea apparently intrigues President Bush who, according to White House Press Secretary Tony Show, called the Pence plan "interesting." Like a lone but sane voice in the wilderness, Bush continues to say that it's impractical to deport 12 million people.

    The White House also is looking at "triggers" that would allow for guest workers and citizenship for illegal immigrants only after preset goals for increasing border security have been met.

    These ideas aren't perfect. Nothing is. No matter what ideas people come up with about what to do with 12 million illegal immigrants, there will be those who find fault. Which could explain why House Republican leaders simply chickened out and ducked the question altogether in putting together their enforcement-only bill last year.

    That's not acceptable. A compromise might be.

    "” The San Diego Union-Tribune

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/c...MIG_S10714.htm

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    • #3
      ..If you're still with us, you should take a look at a bill proposed by Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., one of the most solidly conservative members of Congress and an opponent of amnesty...
      HEHEHE !!!

      This M. Pence "middle ground" solution MUST HAVE BEEN sponsored by none other than Tom Tancredo !

      I do very well remember that in 2004, when President Bush for the first time announced his 'Guest Worker" plan , Tancredo was among the foremost to vehemently oppose it and he fired back at those who accused him of being anti-immigrant and anti-guest worker program, by saying something to the effect of : "I am not anti-immigrant nor anti-guest worker program. I do support guest worker program - only if we force all illegals to leave the country first and apply from abroad".

      AND SINCE WHEN WHAT TANCREDO SUGGESTED AND ENDORSED IN THE FIRST PLACE IS BEING SHOWED DOWN THE THROATS OF THE REST AS THE "MIDDLE GROUND SOLUTION"?!!


      Next , they will suggest that building Aushwitz and burning illegals alive to save on heating costs is the "MIDDLE GROUND" solution to immigration impasse, and that you are a radical-extremist if you have anything to say against it

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      • #4
        I don't remember Tancredo saying anything like that in 2004 but from what I know about him he will not agree on anything that means "more immigration" regardless legal or illegal. He is simply put racist.

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        • #5
          'Google' it a little bit.
          In fact, Tancredo suggested in 04 and 05 the measure similar to what is now being presented as 'Mike Pence Middle Ground Initiative'.

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          • #6
            illegal aliens are not a race, therefore, Tancredo cannot be a racist because he does not support rewarding dirtbag visa-cheating scum and border jumpers with green cards or anything else other than a one way ticket back to their own country.
            We should give illegals one year to deport themselves, face a 2 year bar to readmission, after which they can apply for various visas (with no assurance of success) -- otherwise, after one year they become deportable felons, subject to immediate arrest and deportation with NO possibility of EVER returning to this country LEGALLY, no matter what village idiot they marry, no matter how many brats they decide to produce.
            Guest worker programs should be for those who obey the rules, not as a bonus for irresponsibility.
            And the KKK has nothing to do with illegals.

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            • #7
              I suggested earlier the rational solution of illegal presence in US:

              While enforcing borders , allow those illegals who qualify , to get the temporary work permission (with indefinite extensions past 6 years, subject to yearly pre-approval by DOL).

              This way a) Current illegal population would have no impact on future elections , for they would remain Temporary Workers even if they stayed here for 40 years, b) those present here, who pose no criminal/public/security/health risks - would all become LEGAL, taxpaying, law obeying workers, with corresponding rights and responsibilities.

              Now, IF ANY SINGLE ONE of these former illegals wanted to get LPR through various channels, it would then be required of them to leave the country and apply through Consular processing.

              Also, CAP's could be fixed at current rate - further assurance that 12 million wouldn't get GC anytime soon - even if they applied through currently available channels and left the country to be re-admitted as LPRs.

              Now, wouldn't this be a TRUE MIDDLE GROUND, as opposed to Full Amnesty or Toital Deportation?

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              • #8
                I would vote "Yes" on that.

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                • #9
                  Me too

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