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  • Rough Neighbor
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
    The focus of doing should have been on plugging the hole instead of making a new one, in BP's revenue. It's still leaking and creating nothing more than excuses for bigger fines. There is nothing attributable to it being defensive nor a benefit for the people. Persons it will affect long after the fines have disappeared into the government bureaucracy machine. Then what?

    ... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    The oil leak, unfortunate as it is, should be dealt with by BP. The president weighed his options initially that was construed as inaction. The media played it out as going to be Obama's doom equal to Carter's Iran-Contra. But beyond political point-making, Obama made four visits to the site to ensure that the containment is done.

    But after getting assurances from BP that the job would be completed by August, the next point in the agenda is for BP to foot the bill as a result of their cost-saving shortcuts and recklessness that led to the oil spill.

    The $20B escrow fund would be administered neither by BP nor by the US government but by Kenneth Feinberg, the one who oversaw the funds for 9/11 victims, the Hokie Spirit Memorial Fund, and the recent government bailouts. What about the fines going to the government bureaucracy machine? No, that's not your point. It's plainly the leadership vacuum again.

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  • Brit4064
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    He's gone to a Rand Paul meeting

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  • Rough Neighbor
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    He ran away. Oh, he's busy, he's got more valuable things to attend to than waste time on ilw.com.

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  • Brit4064
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    The more you rant and rave davdah, the more you sound like this guy...



    One minute you blame Big Government and don't want it doing anything to hassle Big Business, the next you blame Big Government for stepping in and doing something. BP is a private company and is not UK Government in any way shape or form. So the money is private money not UK taxpayers money or is it more about Obama raiding the corporate profits? Well duh, whose at fault here? It's BP's problem because they were the ones doing the drilling. Not US Government, not UK Government. Therefore BP must pay for the cleanup and make restitution for the environmental disaster THEY caused.

    You don't like it because:

    a) Obama is in power and he's the one calling the shots. If it were a Republican you'd be praising him or her to the sky.
    b) Big Business is going to be punished for what they did. Like Rand Paul, you'd call it "un-American" I have no problem with this. If they don't like it, they shouldn't be in the risky business of offshore drilling.

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  • Rough Neighbor
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    Wait a minute. Accidents are accidents which often vary in degree and location. But one thing is common among them when they occur. They're unfortunate events that entail tremendous cost. But always, someone or something should be zeroed in to be responsible and be made to account for it - as long as practicable.

    He was being bashed for doing nothing early on. But when he did something in defense of America, which is a departure from how the Exxon recompense fiasco was handled that dragged on for decades amid myriads of lawsuits, he's still toast. It's a case of a national leadership vacuum that you're moving about that's further reemphasized here, as always, no less.

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  • Rough Neighbor
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    The $20B to be taken from BP isn't a government money. It's an escrow fund that can be used to pay all claims, including environmental damages and state and local response costs. But because this wouldn't include fines and penalties, the amount could still go up tremendously. If he doesn't work this out this early (like in the case of Exxon), the more he'll be toast later. He can't do anything right, right? There's where the vacuum is.

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  • Rough Neighbor
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    Yes, Brit, what is it that the Obama administration does? Nothing? Actually, this question isn't from me. This is from those who complain about Obama's socialist and BIG-GOVERNMENT agenda. I thought they want Obama and the government that he leads to leave the business sector alone? Oh well, how more could he be all wrong every step of the way for those who live in a vacuum between 11/2008 till 11/2012?

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  • Brit4064
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">It was known prior to and during his presidency of the shortfalls in disaster preparedness permitted in off shore drilling as compared to other countries. Some of which are directly related to elements that would have prevented this if implemented. Specifically, better cut out systems in the event of the breach in the risers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Like a Repub would have done any better? Your boy Cheney, once CEO of Halliburton pushed hard to eliminate the safety devices which might have prevented the tragedy in the first place. You really believe they would have planned for disaster any better?? You only have to look at the Katrina mess to see the answer is a resounding NO.

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  • federale86
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    Because being a libtard means not having to take person responsibility. Just tax someone else for my benefit. Typical commie immigrant.

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  • Brit4064
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    Of course, it's your fault dragonlady! Lets all rush to a deep Red State for that fantastic, cheap, plentiful, no limits healthcare that's on offer....if you can find one that is. If it's a procedure which isn't done often and isn't needed much then I doubt you'll find any ins co that will cover it. Private or Single-payer system it's the same in that respect.

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  • federale86
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    Are you in a state that restricts the availability of plans? If so, then you are at fault for voting for socialist politicians who restrict the availability of healthcare plans.

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  • Brit4064
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    Not much point in giving him an enema dragonlady, they wouldn't know which hole to use LOL

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  • dragonlady
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    My plan costs me over $600/month. I have a professional career (I have 3 degrees) and my health care plan is plainly a scam. There are co pays, deductibles, non coverage items... and I got the best plan I could get through my employer in my State. Other people think I got a good deal.

    Who is your provider f'86? Let me know - maybe I can get a better plan since yours is so good. Maybe your plan will give you the enema you so desperately need.

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  • Brit4064
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dragonlady:
    I checked my useless American plan and guess what - it doesn't cover those procedures either! So why the big shock fest? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Because fedNUT is trying desperately hard to make a point about government-run healthcare being rationed and second class. As you've just pointed out, private health insurance doesn't do any better either! He's got his head so far up Rand Paul's arse, he can't see the wood for the trees. However he can see a log LOL

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  • federale86
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    Well, if it is useless, why are you paying for it? Of course, if you worked harder and got a better job, you would, quite rightly, have a better health insurance plan. Fat, lazy and s.tupid is not the way to advance in life. Shopping around for a better plan is also a good idea.

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