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Of course, it's your fault dragonlady! Lets all rush to a deep Red State for that fantastic, cheap, plentiful, no limits healthcare that's on offer....if you can find one that is. If it's a procedure which isn't done often and isn't needed much then I doubt you'll find any ins co that will cover it. Private or Single-payer system it's the same in that respect.
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"What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying." -
Because being a libtard means not having to take person responsibility. Just tax someone else for my benefit. Typical commie immigrant.Comment
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">It was known prior to and during his presidency of the shortfalls in disaster preparedness permitted in off shore drilling as compared to other countries. Some of which are directly related to elements that would have prevented this if implemented. Specifically, better cut out systems in the event of the breach in the risers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Like a Repub would have done any better? Your boy Cheney, once CEO of Halliburton pushed hard to eliminate the safety devices which might have prevented the tragedy in the first place. You really believe they would have planned for disaster any better?? You only have to look at the Katrina mess to see the answer is a resounding NO."What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."Comment
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Yes, Brit, what is it that the Obama administration does? Nothing? Actually, this question isn't from me. This is from those who complain about Obama's socialist and BIG-GOVERNMENT agenda. I thought they want Obama and the government that he leads to leave the business sector alone? Oh well, how more could he be all wrong every step of the way for those who live in a vacuum between 11/2008 till 11/2012?Comment
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The $20B to be taken from BP isn't a government money. It's an escrow fund that can be used to pay all claims, including environmental damages and state and local response costs. But because this wouldn't include fines and penalties, the amount could still go up tremendously. If he doesn't work this out this early (like in the case of Exxon), the more he'll be toast later. He can't do anything right, right? There's where the vacuum is.Comment
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Wait a minute. Accidents are accidents which often vary in degree and location. But one thing is common among them when they occur. They're unfortunate events that entail tremendous cost. But always, someone or something should be zeroed in to be responsible and be made to account for it - as long as practicable.
He was being bashed for doing nothing early on. But when he did something in defense of America, which is a departure from how the Exxon recompense fiasco was handled that dragged on for decades amid myriads of lawsuits, he's still toast. It's a case of a national leadership vacuum that you're moving about that's further reemphasized here, as always, no less.Comment
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The more you rant and rave davdah, the more you sound like this guy...
One minute you blame Big Government and don't want it doing anything to hassle Big Business, the next you blame Big Government for stepping in and doing something. BP is a private company and is not UK Government in any way shape or form. So the money is private money not UK taxpayers money or is it more about Obama raiding the corporate profits? Well duh, whose at fault here? It's BP's problem because they were the ones doing the drilling. Not US Government, not UK Government. Therefore BP must pay for the cleanup and make restitution for the environmental disaster THEY caused.
You don't like it because:
a) Obama is in power and he's the one calling the shots. If it were a Republican you'd be praising him or her to the sky.
b) Big Business is going to be punished for what they did. Like Rand Paul, you'd call it "un-American" I have no problem with this. If they don't like it, they shouldn't be in the risky business of offshore drilling."What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."Comment
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He ran away. Oh, he's busy, he's got more valuable things to attend to than waste time on ilw.com.Comment
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He's gone to a Rand Paul meeting
"What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."Comment
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
The focus of doing should have been on plugging the hole instead of making a new one, in BP's revenue. It's still leaking and creating nothing more than excuses for bigger fines. There is nothing attributable to it being defensive nor a benefit for the people. Persons it will affect long after the fines have disappeared into the government bureaucracy machine. Then what?
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The oil leak, unfortunate as it is, should be dealt with by BP. The president weighed his options initially that was construed as inaction. The media played it out as going to be Obama's doom equal to Carter's Iran-Contra. But beyond political point-making, Obama made four visits to the site to ensure that the containment is done.
But after getting assurances from BP that the job would be completed by August, the next point in the agenda is for BP to foot the bill as a result of their cost-saving shortcuts and recklessness that led to the oil spill.
The $20B escrow fund would be administered neither by BP nor by the US government but by Kenneth Feinberg, the one who oversaw the funds for 9/11 victims, the Hokie Spirit Memorial Fund, and the recent government bailouts. What about the fines going to the government bureaucracy machine? No, that's not your point. It's plainly the leadership vacuum again.Comment
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Persons it will affect long after the fines have disappeared into the government bureaucracy machine. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Exactly. That's why the fines have to be so big. The effect of this disaster will be felt for decades to come. And it is BP's fault. They should be the ones who pay. Would you prefer a US Government bailout instead??
"What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."Comment
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
Even less free health care now.
"Obama will order BP to hand over control of oil spill damage claims
President to reassure US in televised address from Oval Office... Dividends canceled."
England pensioners who depended on that fixed income will starve.
With BP being one of the largest tax providers for England this will decimate their revenue. Now, the question is. What will Obama do with all that BP money? Will he spend it on the clean up only and give back any left over? Or, will he do to BP what he did to the banks and other businesses with his spread the wealth mantra?
This is very strange. An avoidable disaster was allowed to get worse and now we have foreign companies under siege. What was that famous quote by some democrat? Something about seizing on the opportunities created by a disaster. I guess it doesn't matter who is being taken advantage of. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Dav, he is not taking over BP...only the oil spill claims. And, since you elaborated so nicely on how the English pensioners will suffer, if England doesn't get it's tax, this is most likely a tell tell sign, that BP is not paying the bigger share of its taxes here, but to the UK. What's more, I think that BP still has to pay dividends to its stock holders, but the corporation has to pay out of its own pocket.
I trust that Obama is doing the right thing! I am 100% sure that BP, if left alone would fight tooth and nail to pay for those claims.
Be a little patriotic, we are talking about the US Gulf region vs. BP.“...I may condemn what you say, but I will give my life for that you may say it”! - VoltaireComment
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And where is your patriotism beyond politics? By the looks of it, you side with BP this time. You hope Obama fails.Comment
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The longer and the worse the oil spill takes its human and ecological toll, the better. It's a bad thing for Obama, and that's what you want. What about what's good and bad for the country? I know. You don't care. You live only for November. And you shamelessly refer to yourselves as the more patriotic ones. Give the vacuum a break!Comment
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Lack of action on the part of our government. Haha! Remember, I repeat, these are the people who complain about the democrats that are socialists and are for a BIG GOVERNMENT unlike their GOP gods.Comment
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