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  • #16
    Come on Brit be real with me and yourself. We have adapted to change over the years. But funny the correlation of illegal immigrants to the U.S. has directly impacted our nation as well as the increase from 250k legal immigrants allowed in each year to 1 million. Can you explain why?

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    • #17
      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Robin Horton:
      Koller, I am not picking on you I am commenting on how your arrogance shines in your post. Both you and Brit take pride in socialism. That is your right but you do not have to offend those who do not wish this nation to become socialist.

      I have always been polite yet spoken my peace and will continue to do such.

      It is confusing to me why so many want to come here only to make this nation like the one they fled. Trying to figure that one out.

      I had to walk around Germany with a pocket dictionary. Yet the spanish speaking illegals of this nation have forced us to practically make spanish a second language. I was sent to Germany, I didn't go by choice so there was no reason for me to be forced to learn the language.

      I am not attacking you Koller just hoping that if you do win your case that you will in the future understand that many in this nation do not share the same love of socialized medicine, uncontrollable spending, and irresponsible debt this administration has left for many generations ahead to face. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

      Let me tell you something Robin. If someone calls me arrogant, I think that person is picking on me. I am not arrogant - I am a proud individual and I have all reasons to be. We Germans are penible

      Socialism doesn't work everybody knows that and I am not stupid enough to believe or fight for something that doesn't work. What does work however is a social democracy - which is the prevaling form of government you see in Europe - some states less some states more. It works! I know it does and so do the millions in Europe that's why I am pulling for it here. Sheer capitalism doesn't work! Look at what it has done to America - there is no leadership no control, everybody does what everybody wants - it's like trying to herd a sack of fleas. You don't want to be controlled, meanwhile you are controlled by every little Hans Wurst out there. I rather have the US government (if I can ever call it mine) take a lead and get some control into this mess. Government needs to be more there!

      Blame the illigal immigrants for the problem, what it really is although and what should be blamed is the lack of government. The illigal immigrants and the socialism thing is just a very convenient exuse for not wanting to see the failure that sheer capitalism has initiated.

      You say you've been to Germany - I haven't been there in 25 years, so I can't really get into details. However, I do remember how I was raised, what kind of education I have received, how the government was there for me for health reasons and how nice and organized clean and orderly everything is.

      Which part of organization don't you understand. Didn't you see it? Did't you like it when you were there.

      I for my part will make the best of my situation as I see fit.
      “...I may condemn what you say, but I will give my life for that you may say it”! - Voltaire

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      • #18
        Koller is a socialist drug addict !!!

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        • #19
          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SonofMicheal:
          Koller is a socialist drug addict !!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

          ....and you are an a.s.s.hole!
          “...I may condemn what you say, but I will give my life for that you may say it”! - Voltaire

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          • #20
            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I rather have the US government (if I can ever call it mine) take a lead and get some control into this mess. Government needs to be more there! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

            First, I'll start by saying I value everyone's opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs without being called names.

            Now, for my two cents. The United States is the only country I have ever lived in, so I have nothing to compare. However, I do know that when government gets too involved, disorganization and chaos result. For example, can you name one government-run agency that is well-managed? Take a look at the Veteran's Administration, USPS, Social Security, Medicare, USCIS, IRS, etc. I could go on and on. The latest joke is the Cash for Clunkers program. The car dealerships are going broke because the government can't process the reimbursements in a timely manner. If a program is to be established, the process has to be in place to support it. By the way, where has all the economic stimulus money gone? I sure haven't seen any signs of economic improvement in Virginia yet. (just had to throw that in - lol)

            It scares the hell out of me for the government to take control of our health care system. It will create a chaotic mess just like all the other government-run programs. I do believe something needs to be done to cut down health care costs, but government take-over is not the answer.

            I believe government should execute, legislate and enforce the laws of this great country - period. I do not believe government is responsible for how we manage our lives; nor is it responsible for making our decisions. Just my opinion.

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            • #21
              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I still don't think what you did was a crime Koller. However, I ask of you and other's who wish to call America their home to respect what our country as stood for, what men and women long ago fought so fearlessly for a nation where Freedom of Speech was respected, permitted, and encouraged. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

              You speak in past tense, like it's gone - interesting! I do like America I shall do everything in my power to make it the very best country for my children to live. If I couldn't agree with America, I wouldn't allow my children to be here.
              “...I may condemn what you say, but I will give my life for that you may say it”! - Voltaire

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              • #22
                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ProudUSC:
                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I rather have the US government (if I can ever call it mine) take a lead and get some control into this mess. Government needs to be more there! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                First, I'll start by saying I value everyone's opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs without being called names.

                Now, for my two cents. The United States is the only country I have ever lived in, so I have nothing to compare. However, I do know that when government gets too involved, disorganization and chaos result. For example, can you name one government-run agency that is well-managed? Take a look at the Veteran's Administration, USPS, Social Security, Medicare, USCIS, IRS, etc. I could go on and on. The latest joke is the Cash for Clunkers program. The car dealerships are going broke because the government can't process the reimbursements in a timely manner. If a program is to be established, the process has to be in place to support it. By the way, where has all the economic stimulus money gone? I sure haven't seen any signs of economic improvement in Virginia yet. (just had to throw that in - lol)

                It scares the hell out of me for the government to take control of our health care system. It will create a chaotic mess just like all the other government-run programs. I do believe something needs to be done to cut down health care costs, but government take-over is not the answer.

                I believe government should execute, legislate and enforce the laws of this great country - period. I do not believe government is responsible for how we manage our lives; nor is it responsible for making our decisions. Just my opinion. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                I don't really know how to say that, but I think what you said above holds the clue as to why government-run agencies don't work in America. Americans don't respect their government!
                “...I may condemn what you say, but I will give my life for that you may say it”! - Voltaire

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                • #23
                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I don't really know how to say that, but I think what you said above holds the clue as to why government-run agencies don't work in America. Americans don't respect their government! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  Interesting point. Its like everything government or unions is considered as automatically a bad thing here. Just think for a moment what would happen if you had neither. A lawless society run by corruption and greed. Sweat shop labor, no health & safety laws etc. You only have to look at "developing countries" like Malaysia to see what could happen. Other countries like India purport to be democratic but in reality money talks and that's the only way anything official gets done. Mexico is similar.

                  In the US and Europe we have it pretty good by comparison. Don't wish for what you want, you might just get it.
                  "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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                  • #24
                    Koller,

                    I am other's have tried to explain to you in the past that your tone even in written form comes off as arrogant. That rarely get's anyone anywhere in life. Just words of advice for the future.

                    Fighting for what one believes in is RIGHT regardless of their views or values.

                    Yes, I did like living in Germany but I had the soft cushion of the American Govt to care for me while I lived there. I did not have to pay the forgot how to spell it mer something tax when you buy a large item such as a car. I had gas coupons that allowed me to purchase gas at American rates.

                    You know it works yet you state that you haven't been there in 25 years. Is it working in Europe? I do still talk to several Germans and they are telling me their economy is horrible. Are they lying to me? Very highly educated engineers which you seem to boast about. Both father and son are engineers for mercedes. Why would they tell me the economy is not good and yet you haven't been there in 25 years and your telling me how great it is.
                    Who should I believe?

                    Capitalism did work in this country for a long time. Again if you are so happy with your social democracy go back to Europe that is why American exists those who did not favor the mindset of the European nations came here for a better life and indeed they created it. How dare anyone stomp on their dedication to make his a nation many steal, kill, rob, and lie to flee here. Explain that one please.

                    Government is corrupt! That is the problem, you may think they want to help you well wait and see it will get far worse before enough wake up and realize the true impact our present administration is placing on we the people.

                    I have tried to be polite yet you and Brit on serveral occasions have implied that I am ignorant and dumb. That is your opinion. Practice what you preach at the end of your posts.

                    Illegal immigration does deeply impact any nation otherwise there would be NO immigrations laws needed in any country. Try again!

                    Let's see I don't drink. One part I didnt like was the bar on every corner with men pissing on car tires, singing drunkenly down the street as my five year old tried to go to bed. The arrogance of the Germans! Yes, I love the people I've made friends with there and I've openly told them how I feel as I am telling you. Germans by nature are arrogant. Historians depict them that way and first hand experience has shown me. I didn't like my daughter having to watch people undress in public at the swimming pools. Some believe modesty is important in life. The smell in a crowded train or bus. Not being able to shop at my convience. Not being able to afford to buy clothing (back in 1986-1990) a pair of jeans cost $100.00 and the exchange rate was 1.82. I couldn't even afford to buy a shirt in Germany.

                    Yes, didn't Germany learn how to organise well. Tin soldier puppets who obediently followed and never once stood up to say NO, this is wrong, inhuman! Yet you want to accuse Americans of being cruel and inhuman?

                    I remember too each day watching my landlord who owned the entire top floor of my apt buidling struggle for 2 years getting up and down waiting for a hip replacement. I have memories too.. Just my eyes were wide open and not cloudy. I spent hours finding qualified physicans here in the United States for my landlords wife and son to seek medical attention and advice! I can only tell you what I've seen and you asked me.

                    Business fail when people become greedy or lazy. So let them fail that is part of capitalism too. Not bail outs.

                    So you approve of H.R. 509? Guess we differ, I think American children and people need 15 million each year spent on them, not turtles here and outside the U.S. Wow love those new planes they bought for Congress too! Come on Govt has gotten to big for it's britches and you want to give them more power.

                    They can't manage VA care, medicare, post office, etc.. and yet you and other's believe they can manage single payer health care. Make no mistake for a few years we will have choice but that is only to gradually prepare us for the finally Unconstitutional act of no more private health insurance.

                    I was polite when I resided in Germany even to those who mistreated me for being and American. Yes, I was not always treated well. Waitres in Frankfurt refused to serve me and my mother, now that is class and manners! I have never done anything personally to her, nor had my mother.

                    I would hope that the LPR's and illegal immigrant's here would show a little respect for our nations belief's, values, and LAWS. Is that to much to ask, expect?

                    I do not feel that we should be on an apology tour of the world. What have we to apologize for? Protecting other nations, feeding them, rebuilding them, saving them from Communism, etc.. A thank you ever once in awhile would be nice to hear.

                    Furthermore when I lived in Germany and worked for the American Govt there the laziest people in the world were the German nationals. Not being rude stating what I personally witnessed. They came to work drunk, one crane operator accidently torn down a building with people in it, after a leizurely lunch and many beers. If the German nations sneezed they abused the system by going off to German government health and relaxation spa's courtesy of the hard working Germans.

                    OO I did pay attention but as a guest I was respectful and tolerant.

                    Lack of Govt here hahaha.. Govt is to big here and they don't even abide or make other's abide by the laws they have prescribed. Corruption, and in my opinion taking advantage of the Mexican illegal aliens whom they hope will be registered voters if they can get Amnesty passed.

                    Be careful what you wish for. When chaos happens whose to blame? Those who obeyed the laws or those who willfully broke them? Guess laws are just silly little things to be ignored.

                    Our judicial system is in crisis and who does Obama put on the Supreme Court. La R***a herself! The are to interprete law not change it! I thin that is what Congress does, but then again I am so dumb maybe I'm wrong.

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                    • #25
                      Where do I begin? *sigh*

                      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I do not feel that we should be on an apology tour of the world. What have we to apologize for? Protecting other nations, feeding them, rebuilding them, saving them from Communism, etc.. A thank you ever once in awhile would be nice to hear. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                      I guess the Koreans and North Vietnamese might not thank us for that LOL But seriously, do you really think the world should thank us? Saving them from Communism? Did they ask to be saved? Did we think to ask before rushing in and taking over? Granted Korea and Vietnam started as a UN operation but the US quickly took over in the War on Communism and made it our own. All because of fear. Much like the War on Terror these days. We're rebuilding Iraq only because we knocked it down in the first place! Then you wonder why other countries don't like us? The UK used gunboat diplomacy a few hundred years ago and learned it doesn't solve problems only make them worse in the long run. America has a lot to learn still.
                      "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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                      • #26
                        America does not need to learn. We are Almighty and Superpower !!! Germany and Britain are nothing but puppet !!!

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                        • #27
                          We respect our Government when it stays withing it's legal boundaries. We have a Constitution here unlike Europe!

                          Furthermore want to talk about respect how about illegal aliens showing respect for our laws.

                          Proud well written and well said. Where one was raised is becoming evident in their opinions. I am just curious as to why you stay here if you like the European social democracy system. Like isn't bad in Europe! As you've all professed, so head on home.

                          Will keep our Constitution, Bill of Rights, Freedoms, and dignity to govern by the voice of the people not illegal aliens dictating worker wages, and getting so many privileges not given to those who are LPR's and citizens.

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                          • #28
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kollerkrot:
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ProudUSC:
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I rather have the US government (if I can ever call it mine) take a lead and get some control into this mess. Government needs to be more there! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            First, I'll start by saying I value everyone's opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs without being called names.

                            Now, for my two cents. The United States is the only country I have ever lived in, so I have nothing to compare. However, I do know that when government gets too involved, disorganization and chaos result. For example, can you name one government-run agency that is well-managed? Take a look at the Veteran's Administration, USPS, Social Security, Medicare, USCIS, IRS, etc. I could go on and on. The latest joke is the Cash for Clunkers program. The car dealerships are going broke because the government can't process the reimbursements in a timely manner. If a program is to be established, the process has to be in place to support it. By the way, where has all the economic stimulus money gone? I sure haven't seen any signs of economic improvement in Virginia yet. (just had to throw that in - lol)

                            It scares the hell out of me for the government to take control of our health care system. It will create a chaotic mess just like all the other government-run programs. I do believe something needs to be done to cut down health care costs, but government take-over is not the answer.

                            I believe government should execute, legislate and enforce the laws of this great country - period. I do not believe government is responsible for how we manage our lives; nor is it responsible for making our decisions. Just my opinion. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            I don't really know how to say that, but I think what you said above holds the clue as to why government-run agencies don't work in America. Americans don't respect their government! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            It isn't disrespect, rather a lack of faith that the government is capable of implementing and running programs with any level of efficiency.

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                            • #29
                              Koller, we all know that the so-called enforcement by Janet Reno Napalitano is just a cover for amnesty. Why is the government attacking Sheriff Joe Arpaio who is arresting more illegals than the ICE Phoenix office? Her speeches claiming enforcement are just cover for the real policy of not enforcing the law and amnesty.

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                              • #30
                                RH, I wasn't going to say anything but after bringing up the 'if you don't like it' card I felt I had to.

                                It does seem that you are picking on Koller of late. Like you are waiting for her to say something that you don't like to read, just so you can give your negative opinion on what she wrote.
                                It is also like you are trying to bait her or something with what you are posting, and Brit too in this case. It is like you are using her post as an excuse, like you have been waiting for this.

                                Everyone has a right to their opinion whether good or bad, as you too, however you seem to pick on those especially who came from another country.
                                Why use the.. non USC and if you don't it go back cards? What would you say if an American born person had similar views to some of us Immigrants? What would you say then? Is that why you don't seem to pick on American born members here with their views, even if it was something you didn't agree on?

                                If anyone has a tone RH it is yours. To me it feels like you are looking down at us Immigrants all the time for one reason or another.

                                If you are not careful RH, you will end up like those in Alipac and alike, because I can feel some dislike in your words and tone towards immigrants here.
                                That is just my opinion of course but I felt I needed to say something and hopefully make you realize how you are coming across.

                                Just because an immigrant says something negative about the US or what goes on here, does not mean we hate the US. I am sure you had plenty to complain about when you lived in Europe, and I bet you were comparing.
                                That's the beauty of living in different countries, you get to see a whole lot more


                                Btw, 4now mentioned not long ago,that you gave a big speech about leaving ILW and gave your goodbye's? I guess he was right what he said.
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