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  • Malinsky
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    I have a dream...a Somali squatter camp in Martha's Vineyard.

    The Somali Bantu (also called Jarir, Jareer, Wagosha or Mushunguli) are an ethnic minority group in Somalia. They are the descendants of people from various Bantu ethnic groups in what is today Tanzania, Malawi and Mozambique who were brought to Somalia as slaves in the 19th century. At the beginning of the 20th century, slavery in Somalia was abolished by the Italian colonial administration; they continued to be despised and discriminated by parts of the Somali society. Contrary to the Somali, who are mainly nomadic herders, the Bantu are mainly sedentary farmers. They may have darker skin than the lighter skinned Somalis.

    In 2000 the United States classified the Bantu as a priority and began preparations for resettlement to select cities throughout the United States, among those it is known that Salt Lake City, Utah received about 1,000 of the refugees. In New England, Manchester, New Hampshire and Burlington, Vermont have received influxes of Bantus.

    Though currently limited to no more than 15,000 individuals, Somali Bantu have direct clan relationships with at least 100,000 others in Somalia. Every refugee flow that the U.S. government has initiated suggests that it is realistic to expect that most of these 100,000 people will eventually make it to the United States one way or another. Another one million Bantus live in Somalia, many of whom can be expected to try to emigrate. Whenever a group is designated as favored for resettlement to the United States, the group attracts large numbers of new members. According to study author David Martin, former General Counsel of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, those who are not in any danger in their home country arrange to adopt the selected group's characteristics, even moving to a refugee camp if that increases chances of resettlement to the United States.

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  • explora
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    roco,
    Sorry you didn't find anything. I thought I saw something about asylum but maybe it didn't contain much info. They state on the site (Shusterman) you can contact them about a consultation. I don't know, it might be free. Have you found anything on the web anywhere regarding your question? Later in my web browsing I'll keep my eyes peeled for you.

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  • cocorocotum
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by explora:
    Cocorocotum,
    Forgot to mention www.shusterman.com
    There's many headings and subheadings you can click on to retrieve a wealth of info on green cards, deportation, waiting times, citizenship, nurses, and more! Very informative. I think you'll appreciate it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>nothing. about refugee deportation

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  • explora
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    Cocorocotum,
    Forgot to mention www.shusterman.com
    There's many headings and subheadings you can click on to retrieve a wealth of info on green cards, deportation, waiting times, citizenship, nurses, and more! Very informative. I think you'll appreciate it.

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  • cocorocotum
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by explora:
    Check Mira, Massachusetts Immigrant and refugee Advocacy Coalition. www.miracoalition.org
    or email flopez@miracoalition.org with questions. Althogh it's an advocacy group for Massachsetts residents you mind email with questions or see if they have a forum on their site. Lutheran Services might also be able to give you some advise. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>that's something constructive
    thank you

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  • explora
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    Check Mira, Massachusetts Immigrant and refugee Advocacy Coalition. www.miracoalition.org
    or email flopez@miracoalition.org with questions. Althogh it's an advocacy group for Massachsetts residents you mind email with questions or see if they have a forum on their site. Lutheran Services might also be able to give you some advise.

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  • cocorocotum
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kollerkrot:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cocorocotum:
    without knowledge of the law
    you will do something against the law

    that's the dirty trick of the system

    the law is hidden intentionally to give job to

    lawyers, police, feds, jails, "justice"


    that is still call "justice" ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    That is not true. The law is very open, you can go to the public library and see all the statutes. Everything is made public. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>refugee status in US is not what you read !

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  • cocorocotum
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hudson:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cocorocotum:
    in what case ?
    is not protected from UNHCR law ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
    Could you be a bit more specific on your case. Kollerrat gave you two excellent links to work from. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>.....I may condem what you say, but I will risk my life for that you may say it - Voltaire!

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  • Hudson
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cocorocotum:
    in what case ?
    is not protected from UNHCR law ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
    Could you be a bit more specific on your case. Kollerrat gave you two excellent links to work from.

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  • Kollerkrot
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cocorocotum:
    without knowledge of the law
    you will do something against the law

    that's the dirty trick of the system

    the law is hidden intentionally to give job to

    lawyers, police, feds, jails, "justice"


    that is still call "justice" ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    That is not true. The law is very open, you can go to the public library and see all the statutes. Everything is made public.

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  • Kollerkrot
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    http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb9...CM1000000ecd190aRCRD

    This is the link on how to apply. I don't know much about Refugee or Asylum status to begin with, and this is rather much to read. Perhaps you can comb through it and find a solution.

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  • Kollerkrot
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    OK, are you in the US, and how long have you been here?

    Each year, the State Department prepares a Report to Congress on proposed refugee admissions, then the U.S. President consults with Congress and establishes the proposed ceilings for refugee admissions for the fiscal year. For the 2005 fiscal year (i.e. October 1, 2004 - September 30, 2005), the total ceiling is set at 70,000 admissions and is allocated to six geographic regions: Africa (20,000 admissions), East Asia (13,000 admissions), Europe and Central Asia (9,500 admissions), Latin America/Caribbean (5,000 admissions), Near East/South Asia (2,500 admissions) and 20,000 reserve.

    http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb9...CM1000000ecd190aRCRD

    This is the link, that will answer most questions.

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  • cocorocotum
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kollerkrot:
    Every year millions of people around the world are displaced by war, famine, and civil and political unrest. Others are forced to flee their countries in order to escape the risk of death and torture at the hands of persecutors. The United States (U.S.) works with other governmental, international, and private organizations to provide food, health care, and shelter to millions of refugees throughout the world. In addition, the United States considers persons for resettlement to the U.S. as refugees. Those admitted must be of special humanitarian concern and demonstrate that they were persecuted, or have a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group.

    That is from the USCIS website.

    Well what are your reasons, and what did you do so far? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>my self I am political refugee (UNHCR blue card)

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  • Kollerkrot
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    Every year millions of people around the world are displaced by war, famine, and civil and political unrest. Others are forced to flee their countries in order to escape the risk of death and torture at the hands of persecutors. The United States (U.S.) works with other governmental, international, and private organizations to provide food, health care, and shelter to millions of refugees throughout the world. In addition, the United States considers persons for resettlement to the U.S. as refugees. Those admitted must be of special humanitarian concern and demonstrate that they were persecuted, or have a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group.

    That is from the USCIS website.

    Well what are your reasons, and what did you do so far?

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  • cocorocotum
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kollerkrot:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">UNHCR </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Roco,

    I personally do not know much about refugees. I would say go contact someone that does. You don't have to go to a lawyer, there are plenty of organizations that know and can give you advice.

    http://www.unhcr.org/contact.html

    Regards, </div></BLOCKQUOTE>that's the probleme

    UNHCR give protection, not deportation
    but US government don't respect any international convention that all ready signed

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