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  • Amnesty Bill

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20080516/pl_usnw/senate_us...loyers__charges_fair

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20080516/pl_usnw/senate_us...loyers__charges_fair

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    • #3
      Some day it will be decided one way or another, til' then all talk is cheap and empty.
      That's what I think.
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      • #4
        We need the agricultural workers, so why not?

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        • #5
          Because you're basically rewarding people for flaunting the rules. Do that, and you'll see a whole new level of illegal immigration.

          However, since the report is coming from FAIR, I'd be inclined to take that with a grain of salt.
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          • #6
            I think my State will want agricultural workers, I know we have suffered since the new bill came in, and now they are all complaining and/or closing down due to the illegals leaving and lack of workforce.
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            • #7
              Unemployment was at 4.6% in 2007. How do you go out of business due to a lack of labor?
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              • #8
                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JermCool:
                However, since the report is coming from FAIR, I'd be inclined to take that with a grain of salt. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                You doubting my sources there, Einstein?

                http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAc...1C-48C1-484DFC65E9D9
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                • #9
                  I stand corrected on both counts. Farm owners are too crooked to maintain a legal workforce and Sen. Feinstein is as much of a lunatic as ever.
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                  • #10
                    There is a lack of cheap labour.

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                    • #11
                      Then allow agri-business to bypass minimum wage if they really can't afford to pay it to their workers. Don't bloody reward people for breaking the law!
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                      • #12
                        It is true, there is a lack of cheap labor now.

                        Apparently in my State they said that even the legals are staying away from farms etc, because they don't want to be presumed illegal and don't want the hassle from authorities being checked over and over again.

                        Farmers were saying that those workers were hard workers and that without them there was not enough manpower to go around. Hence loss of money and business.

                        Something is obviously wrong.
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                        • #13
                          I actually agree with JC as far as the pay rates go. The wages are a good chunk of the reason they can't get USC's to do those jobs.

                          Part of that bill is to freeze the wages agribusiness has to pay their employees for 3 years. It will only make the situation worse.

                          Though, to be honest, I think the worst part of this bill is that it's being piggy-backed on another that has an extremely good shot of being sped through.
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                          • #14
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aroha:
                            http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20080516/pl_usnw/senate_us...loyers__charges_fair

                            Thoughts? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                            Well, Congress and the President might have a bill they can agree on together.
                            "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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                            • #15
                              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JermCool:
                              Then allow agri-business to bypass minimum wage if they really can't afford to pay it to their workers. Don't bloody reward people for breaking the law! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                              "Cheap Labor" is a relative term Jerm.
                              "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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