How Do I prove Father has been a U.S citizen 10/5 yrs

[Honest Abe]

This is the last thing I need to do on my check list. If anyone could give me a hand would be muchly appreciated.

He has always been a U.S citizen since birth and still is .
I was born abroad to a canadian mother in wedlock
I just need to prove he was a us citizen for
a Total of 10 years 5 of which after he was 14yrs old
He was not in the Milatry and did not complete any additional schooling
Thanks Abe

[Honest Abe]

This is the last thing I need to do on my check list. If anyone could give me a hand would be muchly appreciated.

He has always been a U.S citizen since birth and still is .
I was born abroad to a canadian mother in wedlock
I just need to prove he was a us citizen for
a Total of 10 years 5 of which after he was 14yrs old
He was not in the Milatry and did not complete any additional schooling
Thanks Abe

[Honest Abe]

and from what i could understand 5 prior to my birth he was a U.S citizen

Thanks Abe

[templar]

Isn't that rather obvious? naturalization certificate, citizenship certificate, or birth certificate depending on how he beccame a citizen.

There is also his residence issue. Prior to your birth, a certain number of years of residence for your father in US is required. Number of residence years depends on your age because several laws were enacted in different times. You have to prove that as well.

[Honest Abe]

us counsulate
had a list of things I had to bring back
-fathers birth cert.
-marriage cert.
-questionaire on determining US citizenship
-affidavit of Paternity(noterized)
LAST OF ALL WAS PROOF HE WAS A US CITIZEN
FOR 5 YRS BEFORE I WAS BORN AND FOR A TOTAL OF
10 YEARS.
THIS IS WHAT THEY ASKED ME TO PROVIDE
LIKE I SAID BEFORE THEY WANT ME TO PROVE HE WAS A US CITIZEN FOR THESE PERIODS OF TIME
VIA MILITARY RECORDS ,OFFICIAL SCHOOL RECORDS,OR
EMPLOYEMENT.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF ANYONE NEW HOW I COULD OBTAIN THESE
THANKS

[Honest Abe]

this was the last thing on the list I had to complete

[Vegado]

What do you mean with obtain these documents? You father should have those documents in his possession anyway.
You can send in report cards, military ID cards (you said he wasn't in the military, so I just mention it as an example), graduations diploma, notarized affidavits of ministers stating he attended Sunday School for a certain period of time, attendance cefiticate of Boy Scouts and so on.
Usually people keep these papers so your father should have them somewhere. Otherwise your father could sign a POA, and you could get these documents on your own.
Good luck

[Honest Abe]

Well I have only met my father once in my life
I dont think he had any schooling after the age of 14. which the form states 5yrs of which, the parent must be older than 14,hes not religious,
he did not seem like the kind of person to have saved his report card. What is a POA?
Does that give me access to his personal matters? Employeement history
Thanks for your time

[Honest Abe]

the 5 yrs has to be prior to me being born
I was born in 73 he was born in he was 29 when I was born

[Vegado]

POA is the power of attorney, and yes you could access nearly every document. Since you have met your father just once, I am not sure he would sign one, but it wouldn't hurt to ask him.
I thought, you had to attend school at least until you are 16 yrs. old.
It seems like you try to acquire your citizenship without your father's help; that will be difficult.

[aneri]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Vegado:
It seems like you try to acquire your citizenship without your father's help; that will be difficult. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree..isn't there a requirement of ongoing relationship between the father and the child? I am surprised that's not on your list.

How did your parents file taxes while they were married? Maybe your mother has tax returns (or can get them) where it says your father is US citizen. (the form for foreign income tax exclusion has the question about citizenship... don't know how it was 25 years ago). Just a thought

[Honest Abe]

Well I have always been in touch with his mother my grandmother (US Citizen)and Just about 3weeks ago got to meet up with my father,
We really bonded...He signed paternity papers(notorized them)
I was just wondering if there was another way other than employement records to prove he was a citizen .
When I first approached him he was leary of my intentions thinking I was out to get his money
or child support payments . So I also signed a
letter saying I have no Interest in his estate or money.

[templar]

I assume he was not born in US? Otherwise, the birth certificate would be a proof that he is a life-long US citizen. It's not like you unbecome US citizen soemhow. If he is a naturalized citizen, then you would definitely need his naturalization certificate, which would have his citizenship date.

Besides, how in the world "MILITARY RECORDS, OFFICIAL SCHOOL RECORDS,OR EMPLOYEMENT" would prove anything about his citizenship record? You don't have to be a citizen to have those kinds of records. I am fairly sure you misunderstood and this is about the residency issue. Depending on your age, it goes something like - your father had to have resided in US for 10 years for which 5 years were after he was 14.

[Honest Abe]

Father was born in Savanah, Georgia
It has been determined by the counsulate that I am a born abroad US Citizen already, And I can get my US Passport.
This is the last thing of the list I had to provide.
I thought his US birth certificiate would be suffice as well.
But apperently He could have lost his citizenship when I was born which would not qualify me automatically as
a born abroad citizen.
This is a direct quote from the checklist of last thing that I needed to get for the counsulate.
#11 out of 15 things

"11.Proof of U.S. citizen parent's actual PHYSICAL PRESENCE in the U.S. to reflect a TOTAL of 10 years, 5 of which at least, must be after the parent attained age 14, and PRIOR to the birth of the child.
Such proof may be in the way of official school, college transcripts, and/or employement records."

[Adam]

If you were born between 12/24/1952 and Nov. 14, 1986:
Section 301(a)(7) now Sec.(301(g) INA, will be applicable in your case.

Citizen parent physically present in U.S. or possession 10, years prior to child's birth, five of which after the age 14.
Honorable U.S. military service, employment with U.S. Government or Intergovernmental international organization, or as dependent unmarried son or daughter and member of the household of a parent in such service or employment, may be included.
1.You will need a certified copy of your father's Birth.
2. School records of your father,
3. Military records.
4. Marriage records.
5. Affidavit of paternity.
6. Civilian work records as well.
He was born in 1929 which makes him 78
All birth records are obtainable in US.

What is your Country of Birth?
Where are you now?
From which US Consulate you had this listing?
Best of Luck.