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  • Swiss,

    I married under duress, and knew nothing about INS, but, I had an internet scam pulled on me. The lies were off to the horizon. Marriage was tough. I had to borrow lots of money. Adultrey was obvious, a child happened, not mine. And it was always very much alligator tears, the false kind. After spending almost all of 30 yrs. retirement savings, which was combo of mine, and mother's, the alien skipped. During the marriage, I was warned she would throw me in prison, through INS, if I ever even blinked wrong. Then, she would butter me, then trounce. I heard her describe this method, to her friend, on the phone. I am veteteran, disabled, and was confused about the whole business. The scam blossomed into screeming threats, regarding Green Card. Threats against my mother, too. Then, she made a scene, in front of her new *** friend. I was shocked. I would have quietly detached, had mother not been threatened. I got a lawyer, filed, he said "adultrey", on decree, in 'no-fault' state. Wife responded, denying, wanting money. It dragged on,9 months.
    Then she delivered child, and her bf said if I would sign paper, so they could get on, giving me no custody, in fact, he said she promised no more contesting. I signed, then waited, months. Finally, I had to refile divorce, new judge, because you have 6 mnths to finish, or they throw it out. This time, my lawyer wrote all over that paper about her scamming me, and INS. And he attached the paternity papers, re wife and her bf, and the baby. So, you can say what you want, despite no-fault. Anywho...her lawyer is a shark. He is unlisted, in the White Pages, the Yellow Pages, not on the internet. He keeps low profile, because he is aggressive, and many would throttle him. He is found through rumour mills, in the lawyering world. This guy hit me with untold decrees, demands, restrictions on every concievable financial action. He went before the judge to make me almost give blood, so to speak. I finally hit bottom, no money, and no lawyer. I was almost divorced, after 18 months. I tried to bargain costs, but my lawyer balked. My lawyer stopped the last deposition, and refused to schedule a trial. Pro Bonos won't help me, they avoid my wife, like the plague. Finally, I notified INS, told them all. What would have transpired, had I not notified? A perusing of the divorce papers? Perhaps. But, I think she filed as abused, pehaps even while we were together. (She left me after getting Green Card. I suspect this, because she shows no contrition, even at temporary hearing, inside the court. She could care less about the divorce's public pronouncements. She never called me , asking for me to ammend it. She has connections, friends in FL, who do all kinds of INS runaround. I think they told her to do thus and such, and claim abuse. Sorry for diatribe.
    INS called me, and asked questions. They asked when did I first file divorce. Ans: 4 months after Green Card Interview. They asked about the new divorce filing, as well: 3 yrs., 1 week after we married. She said, "We need to move right away on this." We had follow up correspondence. Wife is still living with bf. They are not going to marry. He saw what she can do, yet he is in for 18 yrs of child support. Ouch...

    [This message was edited by jad on November 04, 2003 at 09:08 PM.]

  • #2
    I married under duress, and knew nothing about INS, but, I had an internet scam pulled on me. The lies were off to the horizon. Marriage was tough. I had to borrow lots of money. Adultrey was obvious, a child happened, not mine. And it was always very much alligator tears, the false kind. After spending almost all of 30 yrs. retirement savings, which was combo of mine, and mother's, the alien skipped. During the marriage, I was warned she would throw me in prison, through INS, if I ever even blinked wrong. Then, she would butter me, then trounce. I heard her describe this method, to her friend, on the phone. I am veteteran, disabled, and was confused about the whole business. The scam blossomed into screeming threats, regarding Green Card. Threats against my mother, too. Then, she made a scene, in front of her new *** friend. I was shocked. I would have quietly detached, had mother not been threatened. I got a lawyer, filed, he said "adultrey", on decree, in 'no-fault' state. Wife responded, denying, wanting money. It dragged on,9 months.
    Then she delivered child, and her bf said if I would sign paper, so they could get on, giving me no custody, in fact, he said she promised no more contesting. I signed, then waited, months. Finally, I had to refile divorce, new judge, because you have 6 mnths to finish, or they throw it out. This time, my lawyer wrote all over that paper about her scamming me, and INS. And he attached the paternity papers, re wife and her bf, and the baby. So, you can say what you want, despite no-fault. Anywho...her lawyer is a shark. He is unlisted, in the White Pages, the Yellow Pages, not on the internet. He keeps low profile, because he is aggressive, and many would throttle him. He is found through rumour mills, in the lawyering world. This guy hit me with untold decrees, demands, restrictions on every concievable financial action. He went before the judge to make me almost give blood, so to speak. I finally hit bottom, no money, and no lawyer. I was almost divorced, after 18 months. I tried to bargain costs, but my lawyer balked. My lawyer stopped the last deposition, and refused to schedule a trial. Pro Bonos won't help me, they avoid my wife, like the plague. Finally, I notified INS, told them all. What would have transpired, had I not notified? A perusing of the divorce papers? Perhaps. But, I think she filed as abused, pehaps even while we were together. (She left me after getting Green Card. I suspect this, because she shows no contrition, even at temporary hearing, inside the court. She could care less about the divorce's public pronouncements. She never called me , asking for me to ammend it. She has connections, friends in FL, who do all kinds of INS runaround. I think they told her to do thus and such, and claim abuse. Sorry for diatribe.
    INS called me, and asked questions. They asked when did I first file divorce. Ans: 4 months after Green Card Interview. They asked about the new divorce filing, as well: 3 yrs., 1 week after we married. She said, "We need to move right away on this." We had follow up correspondence. Wife is still living with bf. They are not going to marry. He saw what she can do, yet he is in for 18 yrs of child support. Ouch...

    [This message was edited by jad on November 04, 2003 at 09:08 PM.]

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    • #3
      If you are in Florida, the Florida Bar is very agressive about dealing with attorneys who are unscrupulous or put the legal profession in a bad light. If you decide you want to go that route....you need to file a SWORN complaint (meaning your allegations must be sworn to under oath----your signature notarized)with the Florida Bar setting forth the details. If the complaint alleges facts that could be an ethics violation, the attorney you complain about will be sent a copy of your complaint and given the opportunity to respond.

      I wish you the best of luck. I was a victim of an unscrupulous woman from the Philippines who used me for a visa and then went off to cheat on me....after being married all of 4 weeks.

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      • #4
        So how much detail did you include when you informed INS of the scam?

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        • #5
          Jad; Sorry to hear your story man. Swiss; this is the kind of problem you need to avoid and that I am warning you about; these people are merciless; the quicker you act the better and hit him hard with everything you got

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          • #6
            To Swiss,
            Brevity aside, I them about all the misrepresentation, prior to marriage, and the events therein, esp. her being math prodigy).
            In fact, she abused prescription drugs, and I have hospital records. She was locked away, in mental ward. I got her off drugs. It was personal, to me, I'm Christian, but, she brought this on...After TGC interview, I sent her to school.She told me she was l-e-s-b?, in reality. She dropped out, as did another 'girl', and they painted the town, for three months. That girl fired up my wife's bizzar side. I later found out, the girl's mom was INS agent, in recent past. 7/3/2002, renewed lease, for 12.000. Wife begged of signing, her own sig. I was polite. Two hours later, she and girl left. I got e-mails during July, saying the girls, and friend's family were out of state, on short visit, when the girl got severley ill, and was hospitalized. There were stories about specialists, flown in, to handle this precarious brain condition. I waited on, baited breath and prayer. Wife told stories, including local info, and she got temp. job, etc. Finally, communications broke down. Then, her cell phone bill came, blank. I called Verizon, they said someone used my pasword, to alter billing, on-line, so I asked for charges on long distance. There were none, only 190 local calls, in July. I asked for full bill, to be mailed. I looked around, wife had cleaned the place out, her clothes bags, boxes, empty. I wrote her. Said I was moving back to mother's, felt abandoned. She called, left voice mail, angry, saying she just got in town, today. Then she shows up, cursing, accusing, demanding, threatening, condecending. I gave lots of furniture, and things, to go in the moving van, she brought, with that girl. The move-out left me upside down. Then she e-mailed, accusing me of things that never happened. I related this to another guy, and he clued me in. She came back, acting sheepish, and asked me to sign false abuse testamonial. Then she threatened me, with nasty divorce. I asked for time to think. I knew someone who could get me some govt. data, about towns and cities. It revealed holes in her stories. I e-mailed her, and she threatened. That night, I was on-line, in three e-mail boxes. Things begin happening, deleting, folders rearanging. She had told me someone showed her how to hack, months prior, so I put in new passwords, unbreakable, or more-so. That stopped it. I had saved her lies, on voice mail, suddenly, they were gone. But, I had put one on tape. I sent it to INS, along with all I had on her leaving me. Her phone bill showed every little lie. Then I called the girl's family. They were glad I found out, and told me more things. They told my wife, and the girl, planned for a welfare, *******, family bizzar thing. The mother was none too happy. They knew my wife was pregnant.
            I told that to INS, and gave the agent's name.
            I waited, for some contrition, and three months later, began telling INS. I warned her brother. I only wanted appology. None came. Besides, I got very ill. One day, I saw her in a parking lot, a new car, I wrote down the plate, gave to my lawyer, to serve her divorce papers. He still could not find her. I said I would. I obtained county data on car, found address, and drove there, 2 months later. I had to take mom. Wife was there. She had me thrown in jail, stalking, lies about a gun. It devastated me. She called, said she'd do it again. Have mercy... I told INS about that. I would not have mentioned the child, except her b/f threatened me, and lied. Someone told me she was aiming to put me in prison, of all things,to make me out as bad person. Someone pinch me...She filed three restraining orders, without telling me. All she had to do was see me three times, and I'd be arrested. I did not even know. Lastly, I found some bank statements, of hers, from prior to marriage. There were wires, from all over. She had been trolling on internet, selling sad stories, to men, even rendevous, with European men, who flew over!! I checked with the bank. My wife used false pretense, i.d., to obtain account, as citizen, when she was on tourist visa. In addition, she wired money into our account, and it was for INS purposes, eventually. Bad form.....I sent all that... I am still dealing with sentiment, and have to remind myself, this is not casual white lie.
            Immig. wanted to know how she knew all she did.
            I asked my wife, she said her mom told her what to do. fwiw, I became cynical, jaded, fearful. i cannot live like that. I want to forgive all, that's me... Yet, I must survive, and that means being a realist, for now. I gave up my personal interests, for all that time. I want a chance to recover that, and forgive her.
            I'm not perfect, but I never did anything but tend to her immg. needs, or personal needs. Even so, ultimately, I wish her well.
            I may seem hypocritical, but she plays hardball, and I know now what they respect, in her country-strength. They see weakness differently, than I do. Here is the main thing, I have two infirm parents. Dad is quadraplegic. Mom is getting forgetful. They depend on me, esp. mom. My wife was healthy, able to work, but never did.
            Before she left, wife said she was mad, about my parents being 'useless', "living for free". Dad fought hand to hand, WWII; led a charge, into the enemy, with no weapon; set a man free, with means to survive, near the end of the war. Yet, he is loving, and forgiving. He had children, later in life. We will look out for him...

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            • #7
              jad:

              Thank you for taking the time to tell your story. I know re-living the details is painful, and I wanted to say that it is honourable to say "you wish her well", but I believe that I wish my husband well also. The difference is that I wish that he can do something with his life for which he can be trully proud, independent of manipulating me or anyone else.

              When you sued your wife for fraud...it was the econcomic fraud, or the fraudulent use of marriage for immigration benefit?

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              • #8
                Never any monetary request.
                Decree states
                "7.Grounds For Divorce
                The marriage has become insupportable because of discord or conflict of personalities between Petitioner and Respondent that destroys the legitimate ends of the marriage relationship and prevents any reasonable expectation of reconcilliation.
                Respondent has committed adultrey. Further, the respondent has given birth to a child, whose father is not the Petitioner, but one ..., the man with whom Respondent cohabitates with. Please see exhibit A.
                Respondent has defrauded Petitioner and these United States in that she enticed Petitioner to enter into a marital relationship with Respondent in order to gain entry into this country and use Petitioner's status as a United States Citizen to seek her own citizenship. At rhe time of her marriage to Petitioner. Respondent had no legitimate end toward a marital relationship or intention of remaining married to Petitioner,but used his affections to gain entry into this country by marriage and is attempting to secure citizenship by marriage and birth of her child not of this marriage. Respondent is a citizen of ...a. Thus Respondent defrauded Petitioner.
                ...".
                A request is made for a just division of community property, and retaining of seperate property, etc.
                P.S. First you give a retainer fee. Then, your spouse gets decree, they hire lawyer, and paperwork mill churns, requiring more money. Lawyers love fighting spouses. O.K., I retract that derogatory. Nonetheless, I spent 11,000. for nada. Sundry costs, getting documents, notaries, her lawyer rejecting months worth of my paperwork (gathering past records for three inventories) costing me thousands, on side, besides my lawyer. Her lawyer would nit-pick over nothing. BTW, my spouse never answered to any requirement, and my atty., never pressed a thing, I found out. Yet, I was subpoenaed, twice, to comply, and render money, among other demands. And, my wife spent nothing. Her "connections" have paid everything, from outside the country, I was told. Anyway, her I-751 is due by 3-5-04. At this point, the divorce will soon be thrown out, and to start it over,(4th time), in Jan., will run past the I-751 deadline. So, I suspect 751 is moot, and she got her abuse papers.
                I only hope the Special Agent I dealt with, can intervene. BTW, one of them lent a special hand to my mother, and that I will never forget.

                [This message was edited by jad on November 06, 2003 at 07:31 PM.]

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