conservative columnist and former Bush speechwriter David Frum would like to see three more concessions on the DREAM Act to get conservatives to agree to the bill - http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/12/middle-ground-on-dream.html:
Here would be my three main suggestions:
1) Lower the age of entry into the US. Even the new versions of the law extend amnesty to people who entered the US up to age 16. That allows too many people who entered on their own impetus rather than as part of a family group - and too many people whose first language will never be English. I'd lower to 12, to ensure we really are talking about children who have spent half or more of their lives in the US.
2) False statements in the application should be prosecutable. As written, lying on the forms is still a good one-way option: it might help, and it can't hurt.
3) For those who choose enlistment rather than college, I'd require honorable discharge rather than 2 years service as a prerequisite for regularization. For those who choose college rather than enlistment, I'd like to see some measure- I'm not sure how to write such a rule myself - to prevent the emergence of a huge industry of fly by night institutions that will enroll (and keep enrolled) all paying customers regardless of how terribly they perform. As the law is now written, that last is an all too likely consequence.
With those changes, DREAM could be genuinely useful as part of a package of immigration reforms ...
I would offer a few responses. On the first suggestion, the age of entry under the DREAM bill is UNDER age 16. I would only say that Frum should produce evidence that a large percentage of those age 13 to 15 enter on their own and without their parents. I'm doubtful.
On the point about prosecuting people who lie on applications, that's fine. Of course, visa fraud is a prosecutable crime already.
And on the third suggestion, the DREAM Act only covers institutions qualifying under the Higher Education Act of 1965. But I don't see a problem limiting the qualifying schools to those approved to issue F-1 student visas since USCIS already inspects those facilities to ensure they are bona fide educational institutions.
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Is not that we do not think that life should not be fair when it comes to Immigration but LOOK at reality..... just see what is happening and you do the math!!! Look at your own situation IS IT FAIR???? Clearly the folks that are not situation think is not fair either.... But as it has been stated many times, YOU ARE LEGAL and in line, you have a shot at this... It's hard to get sympathy from others that do not even have that shot...Everyone wants to be here and would wish for a better Immigration system, it's broken and should be fixed, but is not for this, that and the other... in the absence of real reform people will try to talk their own book and get their own fix anyway they can because as we can see CIR is dead!!!! So do not blame the DREAM folks for the system and the whole thing and the absence of fairness in the process....they want this as much as you do and they are just trying to get in line.
yes but you reduce the amount of people that you have to deal with at a later time. Ag Job workers are mostly temporary they do not want to live here the ones that do usually move away from working in the fields, DREAers are assimilated and potentially in a path to contribute to the country in many ways.
"As long as the lawmakers play the political football with this issue it's the legals who are getting screwed."
And you think that the DREAMers are not screwed? this is a long shot for them you and people like you on the other hand continue to be in line...
"It has to be a mindset change where rewards are only for one who obey the rules, that's the only way illegal immigration can be dealt with. I don't see that happening as long as the Latinos remain the fastest growing voter bloc. It's only about the votes & securing the next election victory."
The moral high ground about following the rules has not given folks like you the upper hand because there is a double standard about Illegal Immigration, they are invited
"unofficially" yet they are used for political posturing.
Yeah there will come a point where politicians will have to run for cover from the political power of Latinos and then they will have a strong hand or else they are out of office, it may take a couple of election cycles to get there but once they are there they probably will get what they want and I can guarantee that it will not be fair for others either. If they are doing the piece meal approach then these folks have to get some stuff in order to move stuff for others... and that maybe fair, both groups to get a benefit with out *****ing about what the other got...