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Thread: Real Immigration news...for once!

  1. #21
    Here is what happens if you are suspected to be a Jew in some third world country

    To watch this one you will need to log in on you tube (btw, it's hillarious)

    Compare those two videos with forced wear of Pink Underware which currently is the most "brutal" form of punishment instituted by Joe Arpaio and here we have bleeding heart girlies worried about people getting ID'd because of their appearance...
    http://www.anbsoft.com/images/usflag_med.jpg

    "...I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibit

  2. #22
    Originally posted by Cayita:
    Does this Arizona law mean that a police officer can ask you for documentation even if you are not commiting (or suspect of commiting) a crime?

    Who on Earth carries proof of their USC or legal residency? A driver's license doesnt mention your legal status (some ilegals have DL and some USC dont).
    Yes, all by arresting officers' pure impulse and gut-feel. The state bill in question has these provisions, among many:

    Require law enforcement to make a reasonable attempt "when practicable" to determine the immigration status of a person if reasonable suspicion exists that the person is in the U.S. illegally.

    and

    Make it a state crime to be an illegal immigrant, by creating a state charge of "willful failure to complete or carry an alien registration document."

    Reading your old posts back, you have Latin, while I have Asian ethnicity. That makes us both 'reasonable suspects' of being undocumented when local authorities chanced upon us on some Arizona thoroughfares.

  3. #23
    Originally posted by davdah:
    Show where it's unconstitutional. Reasonable suspicion would be the inability to speak English.
    Reasonable suspicion would be not speaking clear English and not having proper ID when asked for.
    Reasonable suspicion would be having foreign license plates and being in an accident. Assuming of course they stuck around long enough after the carnage they just caused for the police to question them, not the usual course of action.
    Reasonable suspicion would be no drivers license, registration, or proof of insurance to go with the 1970 cougar belching black smoke on the highway.
    Reasonable suspicion might include hanging out in front of Home Depot accosting customers for day labor jobs.
    Reasonable suspicion could include working in a fish bar for tips only.
    I bet most of the law abiding residents regret the abolition of the SUS laws now.
    "Unreasonable suspicion" would it be when the "suspect" is white and/or blond.

  4. #24
    Originally posted by OldE:
    What a bunch of p.ussycats, hesitant to throw off planeloads of illegals without parachutes - for a good lesson!

    What will deportation do to a man who would anyway be where he is to be deported to had he not crossed Rio Grande barefeet?

    Or what will jail do to the same who come from countries that are much worse of a nightmare than hundreds of Joe Arpaios put together can dream up of in American jails?

    Nothing effective can be done with bleeding heart p.ussycats who are too concerned about roughing up those bunch of animals who have no status here.

    What is needed is great John Wayne and 40000 illegals barbequed in a gas stove!
    That's what is needed to make the rest of them run back barefeet !
    First, these ideas are so out-of-this-world, unrealistic, and not going to happen. Not then, not now, not anytime in the future.

    Second, who among supposedly rational beings can come up with such idiotic ideas? Only a mentally deranged moron.

    Who's the ill-thinking p.ussy.cat?

  5. #25
    Originally posted by federale86:
    Mo.ron, the Supreme Court has already ruled on the issue. Check the link out m.oron.Authority of State and local law enforcement agencies to enforce federal law.
    What SCOTUS ruling? If you mean US v. Di Re that's also cited by Mr. Kobach in his article, think again or read the Court's final holding in that case. The Court held that "the search was unlawful, and the conviction cannot be sustained."

    The ruling continued to say that state law is controlling where an arrest without warrant takes place, due to absence of relevant federal statute (in other words, there's no congressional preemption of such). But coincidentally, there's no law in New York justifying it either, hence the Court's adverse holding.

    If Arizona's SB 1070 aims to be the first to set foot in this yet uncharted territory, it would be watched in the national stage down to its eventual demise.

    Kris Kobach who coincidentally helped the Arizona legislators to engineer the bill said: "this law threads the needle perfectly..."

    But some believe that it would rather "tread the needle practically."

    I do too.

  6. #26
    Originally posted by davdah:
    Show where it's unconstitutional. Reasonable suspicion would be the inability to speak English.
    Reasonable suspicion would be not speaking clear English and not having proper ID when asked for.
    Reasonable suspicion would be having foreign license plates and being in an accident. Assuming of course they stuck around long enough after the carnage they just caused for the police to question them, not the usual course of action.
    Reasonable suspicion would be no drivers license, registration, or proof of insurance to go with the 1970 cougar belching black smoke on the highway.
    Reasonable suspicion might include hanging out in front of Home Depot accosting customers for day labor jobs.
    Reasonable suspicion could include working in a fish bar for tips only.
    I bet most of the law abiding residents regret the abolition of the SUS laws now.
    Show me their definition of "reasonable suspicion"? Only one of all that you listed could be considered a reasonable suspicion of being illegal and that's the driver license. Then again, how many USC/LPRs with DUIs still drive with or without a DL? Even then the cop still has to ask to see it...what makes him think they are illegal in the first place? All the rest you listed is stereotypical profiling.

    The first USC who gets caught by this law will run to the ACLU and file a lawsuit. It'll get struck down as unconstitutional. It is the beginning of a Police State if this law is allowed to remain as it is IMO.
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

  7. #27
    Only cowardly p.ussycat sissies or evil enemies of wellbeing of this Nation can object to thowing planeloads of illegals from the skies.

    Look at all the nerdy girlies and PHD earning bleeding heart degenerates who object to my great and practical ideas of getting rid of illegals by means of barbequing them...

    Instead of hopelessly critisizing great men of action (such as John Wayne for ex.) think of what you could do to help barbequing a few filthy illegals in a gas stove. Let's get rid of this bubonic plague !

    And here we have these p.ussycats whining about some filthy scumbag being ID'd somewhere in Arizona?
    Where are your loyalties? Where is your patriotism?
    Where is your will to shoot and kill anyone who doesn't look like yourself?

    Oh well, what a lost generation, what a bunch of cowardly p.ussycats...
    http://www.anbsoft.com/images/usflag_med.jpg

    "...I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibit

  8. #28
    The ACLU doesn't take a case just because someone had their feelings hurt. Better check that one out.
    You are correct. They take a case based on laws that are unconstitutional or are prejudiced such as this one.

    Doing my patriotic duty is more accurate
    You could say Germans in the 1930s were doing just that and look what happened.

    Anyone opposing it should have their loyalties called into question
    What utter rubbish! What happened to the ideal of freedom of speech? Oh yes, it'll be gone under the Police State that davdah desires.

    If people won't obey the law through respect, you have to up the ante a little bit to get compliance.
    In other words, ignore all the laws the US was founded on and have been expanded on for more than 200yrs and you have the perfect excuse to start a Police State.
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

  9. #29
    Originally posted by Rough Neighbor:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by OldE:
    What a bunch of p.ussycats, hesitant to throw off planeloads of illegals without parachutes - for a good lesson!

    What will deportation do to a man who would anyway be where he is to be deported to had he not crossed Rio Grande barefeet?

    Or what will jail do to the same who come from countries that are much worse of a nightmare than hundreds of Joe Arpaios put together can dream up of in American jails?

    Nothing effective can be done with bleeding heart p.ussycats who are too concerned about roughing up those bunch of animals who have no status here.

    What is needed is great John Wayne and 40000 illegals barbequed in a gas stove!
    That's what is needed to make the rest of them run back barefeet !
    First, these ideas are so out-of-this-world, unrealistic, and not going to happen. Not then, not now, not anytime in the future.

    Second, who among supposedly rational beings can come up with such idiotic ideas? Only a mentally deranged moron.

    Who's the ill-thinking p.ussy.cat? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


    Here it is, you bleeding heart girly p.ussycat, read this article and learn what it takes to get rid of those filthy illegals once and for all.





    "Wayne was, in words not invented for him by D.H. Lawrence but so appropriate: "hard, isolate, stoic and a killer." That sort of tendency toward destruction has all but left the screen now, though it had a long run. As late at the '70s, Clint Eastwood could build a major career out of a stoic, lonely killer named Dirty Harry and become iconic for his willingness to shoot to kill.

    He had something else as well, and it's the missing ingredient from today's movies: He knew it was all right to be hated. Hollywood historian David Thomson once called Wayne "the crown prince of difficult men." The stars of his generation knew that the price of heroism, of domination, of certitude, of command, was loneliness -- or possibly, since they were so disconnected from their emotions they'd never acknowledge such a thing -- aloneness.

    Look at Gregory Peck in, say, "Twelve O'Clock High" or Clark Gable in "Command Decision," two movies of leadership agonistes set against the strategic bombing missions of World War II. In both cases -- you could add dozens more -- they were men who made decisions that cost other men their lives; they were hated, even loathed; they lived and drank alone. Their courage wasn't physical, it was almost metaphysical. They had the strength within themselves to ignore (though not really; underneath it cut bad) the will of the consensus and pleadings for such shady attributes as "compassion" and "humanity." They knew the job came first."


    From the article The Lost Action Hero: Strong, Stoic, Feared: Alas, Hollywood Doesn't Make 'Em Like It Used To"

    By Stephen Hunter
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Sunday, September 3, 2006

    Lunk: click here to read full article
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    "...I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibit

  10. #30
    OldE likes them strong and powerful...just like Charlton Heston LOL
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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