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Thread: SSN

  1. #1
    Guest
    Hi,

    can my friend use SSN which is bought to open account and buy insurance ? he BOUGHT a SSN.



    thanks a lot

  2. #2
    Guest
    Hi,

    can my friend use SSN which is bought to open account and buy insurance ? he BOUGHT a SSN.



    thanks a lot

  3. #3
    Guest
    How did he buy that? Is it an authentic or a fake one? How much did he pay for it ?

  4. #4
    Guest
    it is fake one, can he using it to open accout and buy insurance and save money?

  5. #5
    Guest
    the sooner you destroy that fake ID the better for yuo as the possession of it alone you could be in jail and deported.

  6. #6
    Guest
    If you buy an SSN you cannot use it.

  7. #7
    Guest
    Americans caught with a false SSC go to jail. They then have a criminal record. Next time they commit even a misdemeanor, it counts as double against them. Third time is equal to a felony.

    Immigrants caught with a false SSC are deported.

  8. #8
    Guest
    False Soc Sec, actually no, if you possess a fraudulent SSN you are not doind a crime, if you use it to obtain employment, perhaps. Only when you enter it fraudulently on government forms, it is that you have lied and can be prosecuted.

  9. #9
    Guest
    Use of another's social security card to work and establish credit in the United States, in violation of 42 U.S.C. S 408(a)(7)(B) (1988), and 18 U.S.C. 1546(b)(3), did not constitute crimes involving moral turpitude, so as to disqualify the applicant from establishing good moral character on a registry application.

    [Beltran-Tirado v. INS, 213 F.3d 1179 (9th Cir. 2000)]

    The Court based its ruling on legislative history and the fact that the Beltran-Tirado's use of the social security number was to "engage in otherwise lawful conduct." When Congress exempted from prosecution for these offenses those who had already been granted amnesty or registry, by enacting 42 U.S.C. 408(d), it indicated a belief that this conduct was not turpitudinous. See H.R. Conf. Rep. No. 101-964, at 948 (1990), reprinted in 1990 U.S.Code, Cong.and Admin.News 2374, 2653.

    Moreover, the conduct penalized in these statutes was "malum prohibitum", rather than "malum in se." This reasoning applies, as well, to a number of other criminal offenses, but has some exclusions as well. Congress was careful to exclude from the exemption those "who used a false social security number for otherwise illegal activity such as bank fraud or drug trafficking . . . ." [Conference Report at 948, 1990 U.S.C.C.A.N. at 2653.]

    Also excluded were aliens "who sold social security cards, possessed social security cards with intent to sell, possessed counterfeit social security cards with intent to sell or counterfeited social security cards with intent to sell." [see 42 U.S.C. S 408(d)(2)]

  10. #10
    Guest
    But still it is a crime, isn't it?

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