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Thread: CIR - An Executive Solution

  1. #1
    Dear ILW.COM discussion board members:

    Gary Endelman and Cyrus Mehta offer an alternative for immigration reform that does not involve any legislative action at all. "The Path Less Taken: Is There An Alternative To Waiting For Comprehensive Immigration Reform?" argues for a solution that would help millions of immigrants in their struggle to obtain legal status.

    To read the full article, see http://www.ilw.com/articles/2009,0225-endelman.shtm

    Best regards,
    Webmaster
    ILW.COM
    Board Administrator

  2. #2
    Dear ILW.COM discussion board members:

    Gary Endelman and Cyrus Mehta offer an alternative for immigration reform that does not involve any legislative action at all. "The Path Less Taken: Is There An Alternative To Waiting For Comprehensive Immigration Reform?" argues for a solution that would help millions of immigrants in their struggle to obtain legal status.

    To read the full article, see http://www.ilw.com/articles/2009,0225-endelman.shtm

    Best regards,
    Webmaster
    ILW.COM
    Board Administrator

  3. #3
    this will not work. It has the perfect intentions, but does not solve the real issues dealing with PERM labor certificates, H-1B visas, or other work related or family related immigration issues.

    Quotas should be eliminated and replaced solely with a qualification based immigration policy.
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

  4. #4
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
    It never even came up in his speech last night. I think he forgot all about CIR. But we got more troops in Afgan. Its been Obamaized, LOL. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
    It is on his low priority list like tax reform.
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

  5. #5
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
    Not like tax reform? That subject was front and center last night. 95% will get more money back to which he received a roaring ovation.

    No one asked who is going to pay for it though. Ain't gonna be me, I'll tell you that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
    No, that is a tax cut. Tax reform is something completely different. there are parts of Title 26 that need to be overhauled completely to allow better collection activities and to pursue tax fraud cases, not to mentino other things.
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

  6. #6
    with the dropping rate of unemployment I don't
    think there is a future for CIR.

    The Guest Worker Program would have been one of Pres Bush greatest achievement if not because of this people around him who argues promoting their own political agenda all they did is blah blah!

    This could have created funds to build our boarder or lowered the cost of illegals if all this illegal workers were given the documentation to work and pay their taxes and penalties!

  7. #7
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
    No they won't pay. Besides, Obama said 95% will get something. Which implies the other 5% will pay for it all. Those would be people who earn just over 150k a year.

    Trust me, within a year the 5% will have done what they always do. The net result of this extortion will be job losses. The business owners who earn this will cut back employment. Or worse, ship the jobs overseas.

    The same thing was tried in California. Now look at the state. The biggest tax increase ever in recorded history of any state. Why? For the last several years they tried this soak the rich campaign. What happened? Many left. Now you have more people needing stuff and less people to pay for it. Did they cut spending like any sensible person would do? Our state is run by the Dems. Nothing further needs said.

    This was the final nail in the coffin for many. It isn't a question of if I'm leaving. Just when. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
    Davdah, the "rich" are already doing it. By raising the taxes, the IRS will now have to use its limited resources to go after these very complicated tax schemes. Look at the UBS situation. This is just the beginning. The capiatal gains issue will not be more complicated with "qualified five year property" tax calculations (8% or 18%( nor does it allow the lower incomes an incentive to invest in the stock market, lower mutual funds and equity financing. The elderly will not have only one viable option to invest, munis. Employers will not use the stock options as an effective tool for deferred compensation. And the 529 plans and other college investment funds will continue to take a hit.

    The problem I have with the budget is that it is not cutting the spending where it needs it. Balanced budgets are fine with there is a robust economy. Deficits are fine if that spending or tax cuts is directed at improving infrastructure, creating jobs, etc. The stimulus bill and this budget does neither. it is a repeat of '93 and '94.
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

  8. #8
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by iperson:
    Yes D. in the perfect world, but the rich aren't smart, or perfect. Quite on the contrary, they gamble their wealth (see Madoff) instead of employing it to produce something.

    Case in point:

    http://www.apartmenttherapy.co...ction-results-077497

    Now WHO buys the fugliest chair in the world for $28 MILLION???

    Nice productive investment. Tons of jobs created.

    Btw, read the readers' comments. ROTFLMAO! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Interesting!
    that Chair took so little time to create. Amazing How $$$ Value Of Ownership And belief contributes To value of Something Of such poor craftsmanship!!! one of my customers Has a Hand carved throne That took Over 3 years To create, Valued at over 800K. sorry I cannot share more. Truly Amazing Craftsmanship!!! 17TH CENTURY.

    Sold a Nippon Urn of impeccable craftsmanship 'Green leaf" And beauty for 4500. Yet A piece of milk Glass Imperfect/ Broken Guild brought 6K. Yard sale.
    USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who y

  9. #9
    In the UK when they put up Taxes to penal rates, the overall take reduced, not increased.

    If you are paying that much tax it pays to reorganise your affairs, incur fees etc etc

  10. #10
    Clearly unconstitutional. Parole was not designed for the executive to evade the immigration laws. Impeachment is the result, but then Obama is an illegal.

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