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Thread: Immigrants are vital to US economy...

  1. #1
    Guest
    This is always true. So let's help legalize immigrants !

  2. #2
    Guest
    This is always true. So let's help legalize immigrants !

  3. #3
    Guest
    I cannot figure out where you people get the idea you are helping our economy. You have all but bankrupted the state of Ca. You have driven down the cost of labor so that no one can get a decent pay anymore. You all make $6.00 an hour and have 5 children . And not one of you pays for the birth of your children in our hospitals. Just check the census data. The information is all there .75% of children born in LA county hospital- Born to "UNDOCUMENTED" (As you prefer to be called)aliens. NONE paid anything.There is a story in The LA Times Friday that is about the closure of hospitals in LA. And it clearly states that the reason is uncontrolled illegal immigration. It says that the lives of CA citizens are now in danger because of this. And then it says that the illegals are also causing the schools to go broke and the prisons are overflowing with them also. I think we can manage our own lawns. And we had a perfectly good guest worker program for farm help. Any thing else you do we will do for more money. When your gone they will have to pay more. So i respectfully disagree with your theory that you are "GOOD" for the economy. All the FACTS say otherwise. If you would put as much effort into changing your own country as you do in sneaking in here,it would probably be better for both countrys. At one time there was nothing here either. If our Founding Fathers had all run off somewhere where it was "easier" we wouldn't have this country today. So why don't you all start building a better future for yourselves in your own country? I am sure many Americans would invest in any good ideas that anyone came up with. And we would surely help in any way we could.

  4. #4
    Guest
    I personally pay more than $40,000 per year to the INS. I have an annual income in the neighbourhood of $150,000 / yr and I spend my money in the US just like any other American. I have 2 cars, a high-end house and a whole bunch of toys inside that home. I employ 7 Americans at my company as well as other trades at my home. HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY STATE THAT IMMIGRANTS DO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMY? My point is not to brag but to point out that you cannot make blanket statements about people. You would NEVER know that I am an immigrant. I look the same, sound the same, and act the same as any natural born American. I suggest that you spend some time studying macro economics and how it works... Who do you think are buying houses? Who do you think are investing in 401K plans? Most 'immigrants' who are a drain on local economies are ILLEGAL ALIENS, not people who are trying to conform to US laws. Your efforst should be confinded to reducing illegal immigration not complaining about the rest of us...

  5. #5
    Guest
    I am a USC, I am married to an immigrant, of hispanic origin. We have 3 high end houses, 1 beautiful little girl, 2 labs, a very succesful business, that employs over 100 ppl, both citizens and immigrants. If you think they are driving down the cost of labor, then you need to get off your a** and get a better job than flippin burgers, making pizza, or scrubbin floors and toilets! Immigrants are not all bad! You have bad ppl in all races. Hispanics are not the only ones on wel-fare. You know that as well I. I am totally against immigrants getting welfare, especially illegal ones, but we do not process the applications. Immigrants come to this country to make a better life for themselves and their family, and for some they think ohh i can take kids to the doctor for free so lets ride this welfare train until it stops! That is not right. These ppl. should be banned from getting any type of citizenship and worker documentation for the fact that welfare is not making it a better life! That is truley what i believe. There are literally hundreds of thousands of children starving in america every day, because their parents are either divorced, or drugged up or just does not give a damn! PLAIN AND SIMPLE! IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF THAT THE PPL WHO NEED THE WELFARE THE MOST CAN NOT GET IT, BECAUSE OF THE SHORTAGE! I WILL TELL YOU ALL A LITTLE SECRET. GROWING UP THERE WAS 5 OF US KIDS, MY MOTHER WAS NEVER THERE FOR US, WE NEVER HAD FOOD, ETC. ETC. I REMEMBER MY 2 OLDER SISTERS WOULD GO TO SCHOOL, AND PACK UP ANYTHING THEY COULD FROM THERE LUNCHES TO MAKE SURE THAT {US} THE OTHER 3 AT HOME HAD SOMETHING TO EAT THAT DAY! THAT IS REALLY WHEN YOU NEED WELFARE! WHEN YOU ARE ON THE BRINK OF STARVING TO DEATH. BUT WE WERE KIDS, USC KIDS WHO WERE STARVING BECAUSE THERE SIMPLY WERE NOT ENOUGH FUNDS! SO THAT IS WHERE MY PIONT COMES IN WITH THE WELFARE. LIKE RIGHT NOW I KNOW A WOMAN WHO'S HUSBAND IS A CONTRACTOR, THEY ARE BOTH ILLEGAL ALIENS, THEY MAKE GOOD MONEY, THEY NEED NO ASSITANCE, BUT THEY HAVE A LITTLE BOY WHO IS 4 HIS HAIR WAS FALLING OUT, SHE CALLED ME TO MAKE A DOCTORS APPT. FOR LACK OF ENGLISH, I DID SO WITH MY PEDIATRICIAN, AND SHE *****ED CAUSE THEY WANTED $120.00! THAT IS NOTHING COMPARED TO THE HEALTH OF MY BABY! IF IT WERE TO COST ME 1 MILLION DOLLARS, I WOULD FIND A WAY TO PAY IT! WELL A WEEK PASSED SHE CALLED ME ONCE MORE TO MAKE ANOTHER APPT, SHE HAS THE MONEY SHE SAYS, SO I DO WE MEET UP AT THE DRS. OFFICE, THEY ASK FOR HER METHOD OF PAYMENT, SHE PULLS OUT A MEDICAL CARD! IT REALLY HAS BEEN TWEAKIN ME SINCE I FOUND OUT SHE WENT AND APPLIED FOR A MEDICAL CARD, AND REALLY DOES NOT NEED THE CARD. THEY ARE BUYING A HOUSE, HAVE CELL PHONES, 2-3 CARS, YA KNOW, MY HOUSE WOULD GO IF NEED BE, BEFORE I LET THE HEALTH OF MY BABY GO BAD, OR APPLIED FOR WELFARE, BUT IT HAPPENS, AND I HAVE TOLD HER AND HER HUSBAND THAT I THINK ANYONE WHO IS AN IMMIGRANT IN THIS COUNTRY THAT APPLIES FOR WELFARE AND RECIEVES IT, SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT, CAR PAYMENTS, RECIEVE THEIR CITIZENSHIP PAPERS, OR WORKERS PERMIT PAPERS! tHEY WANT TO MAKE A BETTER LIFE FOR THEMSELVES, THEN BY DAMN IT, QUITE HAVING SO MANY KIDS, SCREWING THE SYSTEM, AND LYING! WHEN IT COMES TO WELFARE APPLICATIONS THEY REALLY SHOULD BE CHECKED OUT A LOT BETTER THAN THEY ARE! AND AMERICANS SHOULD BE FIRST, IT SOUNDS BAD, BUT HEY YOU WERE NOT THE ONE STARVING WHEN YOU WERE 3-4 YEARS OLD EITHER! ALL PPL OF ALL RACES SCREW THE SYSTEM, NOT ONLY HISPANICS. THERE ARE AMERICANS THAT DO THE SAME THING! IT IS ALL IN A MATTER OF WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE. I DECIDED THAT WHEN I HAVE CHILDREN, THEY WILL HAVE BOTH PARENTS, THEY WILL NEVER WANT FOR NOTHING! IT IS FROM SOMETHING I LEARNED IN MY LIFE, AND I APPLIED IT, AND NOW MY DAUGHTER IS 2, GETS ANYTHING SHE WANTS, AND ALWAYS HAS PLENTY TO EAT. NOT THROUGH THE SYSTEM, BUT BY HARD EARNED MONEY. I AM NOW 23 YRS. OLD AND HAVE A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS. IT IS ALL A MATTER OF HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO BOTAIN IN YOUR LIFE. I HOPE YOU HAVE CHANGED YOUR VEIWS ON HISPANICS IN GENERAL. IT IS NOT ONLY HISPANICS. IT IS EVERY RACE IN THE USA. IF YOU WANT TO HEL PTAKE NOTES, VOTER SEASON IS UPON US. AND WITH BUSH IN THE PRESIDENTS SEAT, THINGS ARE STARTING TO GET A WHOLE LOT WORSE. SO IF I WERE YOU MY FRIEND, I WOULD GO DEMOCRATIC THIS YEAR. GOOD LUK WITH WHAT LIFE HAS TO OFFER YOUR SMALL SIDE-LINED VEIWS! CIAO IN ENGLISH THAT IS GOODBYE~ ~ ~

  6. #6
    Guest
    Jannis your foreparents were immigrants. You need to learn your history.

  7. #7
    Guest
    Jannis you are an idiot, you don't even know anything about American history. Who do you think built America? IMMIGRANTS!!!

  8. #8
    Guest
    Jannis you should learn how to spell word "countries" first, before accusing innocent immigrants.
    Not "contrys" it's COUNTRIES

  9. #9
    Guest
    You people should learn OUR history. The Founding Fathers of this country were mostly if not all born in THIS COUNTRY. And my point was that they worked and sacrificed to make something of the place they were at. They did not run off to take advantage of other peoples hard work.I notice that no one disputed my facts. You are reduced to name calling.You should all read the post from the person that exploded all the myths that all the poverty pimps put out about how wonderful immigration is. And to the person who said I was saying unfair things about immigrants, I WAS talking about ILLEGALS. I have nothing against anyone who comes here legally.

  10. #10
    Guest
    What about the illegals that came here legally and even when there status went illegal did NOT go on welfare, but finds other means to support themselves. I tell you this, I pay for my child's medical care and not through medical, he is a USC but I still do not use it. I maybe an illegal but that doesn't mean I suck the system dry, no I have other ways of supporting myself. You shouldn't categorize just because someone is an illegal, they immediatly sit on welfare and suck the system dry.

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