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Thread: Loyalty Oath

  1. #1
    Michael
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    The following oath for permanent residency is being considered by Congress. Lets hope it passes.

    "I pledge allegience to the United States and it's government. I renounce all other allegiences, states and belief systems. I accept the American principles of liberty, freedom, capitalism and justice as being the only acceptable form of governance in a civilized society. I solemnly swear to obey all laws and to defend the United States of America from all enemies, foreign or domestic. So help me God."

  2. #2
    Michael
    Guest
    The following oath for permanent residency is being considered by Congress. Lets hope it passes.

    "I pledge allegience to the United States and it's government. I renounce all other allegiences, states and belief systems. I accept the American principles of liberty, freedom, capitalism and justice as being the only acceptable form of governance in a civilized society. I solemnly swear to obey all laws and to defend the United States of America from all enemies, foreign or domestic. So help me God."

  3. #3
    More like "bullsheit oath".

  4. #4
    Michael,
    Your posts are amusing and I never take it seriously.... but get a break... you shouldn't be making joke of serious and respectable matter like oath.... take care...keep posting...I love to read ur posts...it makes me laugh....Have a good night...Pasha

  5. #5
    Well, I'm no constitutional scholar, but Michael's oath is full of constitutional violations, including free speech and religion.

  6. #6
    This is what it is now , I am sure the liberal anti- USC Para legal can find this un constitutional TOO



    OATH OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
    "I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the armed forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

  7. #7
    I'm not anti-USA and my political leanings have nothing to do with this. Michael was referring to a green card oath, which I find to be excessive.

    I am quite familiar with the citizenship oath. However, despite the pledge to abandon all foreign allegiances, there are plenty of people out there (my father included) who are dual citizens. I have even dealt with triple and quadruple citizens. And, to nitpick, the last phrase (So help me god) does not have to be recited if one does not want to (a little thing called freedom of religion comes to mind); in fact, one can freely choose to affirm, rather than to swear. This is the same in courts, where one can affirm instead of swearing on a sacred text of one's choosing.

  8. #8
    What do you swear on if you are Agnostic or Atheist?
    Sweet Madame Belu

  9. #9
    As an agnostic/atheist or even as a Mormon (not allowed to swear), you affirm. You do not affirm on a text. In addition, you can swear on any text you wish. A Muslim can swear on the Qran, a Hindu on the veda, or a professor of literature may swear on the collected works of Shakespeare. In short, an affirmation is a call to one's conscience, while a swearing is a call to one's faith. Either are perfectly allowed, even though TV shows only show swearing ins.

  10. #10
    "a professor of literature may swear on the collected works of Shakespeare"

    So, a professional gambler can swear on the Daily Racing Form and Larry Flynt can swear on his Hustler magazines?

    What happened to just raising your right hand?
    Sweet Madame Belu

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