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Thread: Chipmunk Thanks for the summary, SKS. I had to work so I missed it. Nice to know that most of the po

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    Chipmunk Thanks for the summary, SKS. I had to work so I missed it. Nice to know that most of the potential governers are not against "illegal" immigrants. They are an important part of this state, not only economically, but culturally and socially as well.

    They pay more in taxes than they receive in services (or do they?)
    By Mark Andrew Dwyer

    Alamance Independent
    http://www.alamanceind.com/editor/editor_13.html
    February 23, 2003

    The United States offers its residents a variety of valuable benefits, such as high standard of living, social and medical security net, high quality (although expensive) education, an access to state-of-the-art technology and infrastructure, stable currency, and an unparalleled safety from both foreign and domestic threats.

    In today's struggling and dangerous world, all these benefits are rarities and they don't come cheap. It takes money to live in America and one needs a handsome income in order to afford it. Even if offered a wage of twelve dollars per hour, a vast majority of five million+ (and still coming) illegal immigrants [illegal aliens] from Mexico have practically no chance to earn enough to cover these costs for themselves and their dependents.

    And their high fertility rates multiply their income deficiency, thus making the imbalance between what they contribute and what they receive even worse.

    As a result, by their mere presence in this country, they slow down the economic progress and negatively impact the quality of governmental services and the living standard of all those Americans who don't profit directly from their "cheap" labor.

    Here are the details.

    President Bush's recent $2.3 trillion budget proposal, if approved by the U.S. Congress, would levy a $7,000 a year average tax burden on each American resident, including the elderly and the new-born babies.

    This is the per capita cost of having the federal government, without which there would be no United States of America as we know it, and of enjoying government services that benefit all those who reside in this country. In other words, for a family of six (quite a popular model among the five million+ illegal immigrants [illegal aliens] of Mexican ancestry), the Feds need to collect roughly $42,000 a year in federal tax just to break even.

    Now, are you telling me that an illegal alien who has to feed his wife and four children is paying 42 grand to the IRS? I don't think so.

    If an immigrant family pays less in federal taxes than their fair share ($7,000 a year per a family member) then it means that they receive more in federal services than they pay for, even if they don't collect welfare checks or other forms of federal assistance.

    And this imbalance does not even account for other benefits, not being paid for by the federal government, that the illegal immigrants [illegal aliens] are drawing from America's wealth.

    They use the existing infrastructure they haven't built. They benefit from living in a functional and well-organized country that took two hundred years of hard work and ingenuity of previous generations of Americans to build and improve.

    They profit from strong American economy and low price consumer market that they did not create. On the top of that, they pay no sales tax in America on part of the money they earn here but send back to Mexico (or whatever countries of their origin might be).

    And by living in overcrowded low-cost dwellings, they don't pay enough per capita property taxes to offset the cost of local services they and their numerous children claim and receive.

    To make things even worse, they usually have no health insurance, which translates onto hundreds of millions of dollars they draw each year from American public health care system.

    Here is more bad news.

    In State of California, which absorbs the biggest share of mass Mexican illegal immigration, the average tax burden is substantially higher than in the rest of the U.S. Governor's Davis'es budget 2003-04 proposal calls for total spending of over $96.4 billion (or about $2,750 per resident a year), roughly $33.6 billion of which is supposed to come from California personal income tax.

    If approved, it would levy about $1,000 a year of state income tax average burden on each resident of California (which is only about one third of $2,750 that the state will spend for the benefit of average resident), or about $6,000 a year per family of six.

    This, combined with the above $42,000 federal tax figure, yields $48,000 a year (or $8,000 per family member) that an illegal immigrant family [illegal aliens] of six living in California has to pay in state and federal income taxes alone in order to be not considered a burden for the society.

    Well, it takes two people working 40 hours a week 50 weeks a year for $12 an hour (which is quite high a wage for a "cheap" laborer), to make $48,000 a year (2 x 40 x 50 x 12 dollars).

    So, even if both parents in a family of six work full time, there is absolutely no way how they could pay their fair share of the tax burden (48 grand a year), and then you and I have to pick up the hefty tab. Think about these facts before repeating the open border lobby mantra that the immigrants [illegal aliens] pay more in taxes than they receive in services. (And remember that the open border lobby "tactfully" keeps quiet about the alarming rate at which the quickly growing population of illegal immigrants [illegal aliens] uses up our limited natural resources and contributes to pollution, deterioration of the environment, green house effect, global warming, etc.)

    Here is the conclusion.

    We, the majority of American taxpayers are being soaked big time so that the farm and meat packing plant owners can profit handsomely from their "cheap" laborers. And the ****ers want to make us believe that it's for our benefit. So, call your U.S. representatives today. Tell them to seal our Southern border and to put mass illegal immigration to stop.

    It's time for the American nation to halt the importation of families who cannot or are not willing to pay their fair share of state and federal income taxes (a minimum of $8,000 per family member per year, that is).
    If it were my call then I would also suggest adding an IQ test as a requirement for admission, with a passing score of 98 (a national average). And if the prospective immigrants have a problem with any of these, they always have a choice to stay where they are.
    --
    "The net cost of immigration is $70 billion a year." - George Borjas, Harvard professor. 2002 "Immigration is estimated to cost Californians $1,300 per household annually in additional taxes." -- Costly immigration, Paul Craig Roberts
    "Immigration costs U.S. born workers $133 billion a year in job losses." - Economics professor George Borjas
    Overall, migrants from around the world send $30 billion to relatives back home. $23 billion last year to Latin America and the Caribbean. $10 billion was sent home to Mexico alone. Filipino workers send $6 billion a year and 10,000 cash transfers are sent to China each month, averaging $2,000 to $3,000 each.

  2. #2
    Chipmunk Thanks for the summary, SKS. I had to work so I missed it. Nice to know that most of the potential governers are not against "illegal" immigrants. They are an important part of this state, not only economically, but culturally and socially as well.

    They pay more in taxes than they receive in services (or do they?)
    By Mark Andrew Dwyer

    Alamance Independent
    http://www.alamanceind.com/editor/editor_13.html
    February 23, 2003

    The United States offers its residents a variety of valuable benefits, such as high standard of living, social and medical security net, high quality (although expensive) education, an access to state-of-the-art technology and infrastructure, stable currency, and an unparalleled safety from both foreign and domestic threats.

    In today's struggling and dangerous world, all these benefits are rarities and they don't come cheap. It takes money to live in America and one needs a handsome income in order to afford it. Even if offered a wage of twelve dollars per hour, a vast majority of five million+ (and still coming) illegal immigrants [illegal aliens] from Mexico have practically no chance to earn enough to cover these costs for themselves and their dependents.

    And their high fertility rates multiply their income deficiency, thus making the imbalance between what they contribute and what they receive even worse.

    As a result, by their mere presence in this country, they slow down the economic progress and negatively impact the quality of governmental services and the living standard of all those Americans who don't profit directly from their "cheap" labor.

    Here are the details.

    President Bush's recent $2.3 trillion budget proposal, if approved by the U.S. Congress, would levy a $7,000 a year average tax burden on each American resident, including the elderly and the new-born babies.

    This is the per capita cost of having the federal government, without which there would be no United States of America as we know it, and of enjoying government services that benefit all those who reside in this country. In other words, for a family of six (quite a popular model among the five million+ illegal immigrants [illegal aliens] of Mexican ancestry), the Feds need to collect roughly $42,000 a year in federal tax just to break even.

    Now, are you telling me that an illegal alien who has to feed his wife and four children is paying 42 grand to the IRS? I don't think so.

    If an immigrant family pays less in federal taxes than their fair share ($7,000 a year per a family member) then it means that they receive more in federal services than they pay for, even if they don't collect welfare checks or other forms of federal assistance.

    And this imbalance does not even account for other benefits, not being paid for by the federal government, that the illegal immigrants [illegal aliens] are drawing from America's wealth.

    They use the existing infrastructure they haven't built. They benefit from living in a functional and well-organized country that took two hundred years of hard work and ingenuity of previous generations of Americans to build and improve.

    They profit from strong American economy and low price consumer market that they did not create. On the top of that, they pay no sales tax in America on part of the money they earn here but send back to Mexico (or whatever countries of their origin might be).

    And by living in overcrowded low-cost dwellings, they don't pay enough per capita property taxes to offset the cost of local services they and their numerous children claim and receive.

    To make things even worse, they usually have no health insurance, which translates onto hundreds of millions of dollars they draw each year from American public health care system.

    Here is more bad news.

    In State of California, which absorbs the biggest share of mass Mexican illegal immigration, the average tax burden is substantially higher than in the rest of the U.S. Governor's Davis'es budget 2003-04 proposal calls for total spending of over $96.4 billion (or about $2,750 per resident a year), roughly $33.6 billion of which is supposed to come from California personal income tax.

    If approved, it would levy about $1,000 a year of state income tax average burden on each resident of California (which is only about one third of $2,750 that the state will spend for the benefit of average resident), or about $6,000 a year per family of six.

    This, combined with the above $42,000 federal tax figure, yields $48,000 a year (or $8,000 per family member) that an illegal immigrant family [illegal aliens] of six living in California has to pay in state and federal income taxes alone in order to be not considered a burden for the society.

    Well, it takes two people working 40 hours a week 50 weeks a year for $12 an hour (which is quite high a wage for a "cheap" laborer), to make $48,000 a year (2 x 40 x 50 x 12 dollars).

    So, even if both parents in a family of six work full time, there is absolutely no way how they could pay their fair share of the tax burden (48 grand a year), and then you and I have to pick up the hefty tab. Think about these facts before repeating the open border lobby mantra that the immigrants [illegal aliens] pay more in taxes than they receive in services. (And remember that the open border lobby "tactfully" keeps quiet about the alarming rate at which the quickly growing population of illegal immigrants [illegal aliens] uses up our limited natural resources and contributes to pollution, deterioration of the environment, green house effect, global warming, etc.)

    Here is the conclusion.

    We, the majority of American taxpayers are being soaked big time so that the farm and meat packing plant owners can profit handsomely from their "cheap" laborers. And the ****ers want to make us believe that it's for our benefit. So, call your U.S. representatives today. Tell them to seal our Southern border and to put mass illegal immigration to stop.

    It's time for the American nation to halt the importation of families who cannot or are not willing to pay their fair share of state and federal income taxes (a minimum of $8,000 per family member per year, that is).
    If it were my call then I would also suggest adding an IQ test as a requirement for admission, with a passing score of 98 (a national average). And if the prospective immigrants have a problem with any of these, they always have a choice to stay where they are.
    --
    "The net cost of immigration is $70 billion a year." - George Borjas, Harvard professor. 2002 "Immigration is estimated to cost Californians $1,300 per household annually in additional taxes." -- Costly immigration, Paul Craig Roberts
    "Immigration costs U.S. born workers $133 billion a year in job losses." - Economics professor George Borjas
    Overall, migrants from around the world send $30 billion to relatives back home. $23 billion last year to Latin America and the Caribbean. $10 billion was sent home to Mexico alone. Filipino workers send $6 billion a year and 10,000 cash transfers are sent to China each month, averaging $2,000 to $3,000 each.

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