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Thread: Obama's Childhood Arrival Promise Graph

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    Obama's Deferred Action Promise Graph

    DACA progress
    -BoardWizard

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    An immigrant
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    Obama's promise

    Lets see if Obama delivers on his commitment.

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    We have two choices in this election, a man that made a promise and reneged on it 4 years ago and then, a man that has lived with integrity, sharing millions of his wealth with his church and other charities. A liar and deceiver will not be my choice in the upcoming election. Immigrants are forced to show CERTIFIED DOCUMENTS at all levels of the petition process and yet the man in office has yet to produce a certified document. I hope the immigrants in our country are not fooled again by this political ploy. President Bush tried to get the Dream Act in Congress. I believe it was 5 votes that kept it from passing and guess which party was in the majority at that time: DEMOCRATS. I will take my chances with the generous and successful businessman. Our office is prepared to help as many as possible and donate our time to Catholic Charities to help fill out these forms. We are very much aware there may be only a window of time for many that qualify, so we need to focus on that and put our energy towards that end. Do keep us updated...on the graph, but Obama does not have my vote this time around.

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    Oh, for Pete's sake ILW . . . STOP this unabashed politicizing of this issue. Nena77's comment has no substance other than to bash Obama . . . who is responsible for the present DREAM stop-gap measure? OBAMA! Cut him a little slack and stop turning this forum into a grandstand for Mitt Romney for president. So Nena77 . . . take your "chances" with the man who strapped his dog to the roof of his car. Take your "chances" with the political party that produced Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew, both of whom had to resign the offices of president and vice president, respectively, in disgrace. Take your "chances" with the political party that produced Ollie North and the Iran Contra affair. Take your "chances" with the political party that nominated Sara Palin as the vice presidential nominee. Take your "chances" with the political party that put George W. Bush into power for eight years, who took the USA from a budget surplus to a multi-trillion dollar deficit in the flash of an eye and embroiled us in two wars, Iraq and Afghanistan, neither of which has had any benefit to America. Yes, take your "chances" with the political party that now has Mitt Romney as its poster boy . . . the ultimate in greed, riches and lack of concern for the common man.
    Do you want to argue politics . . . . or do you want real immigration reform? I want real immigration reform and the only way to get it is to stop politicizing immigration and stop putting Amnesty riders on otherwise cogent changes the immigration system sorely needs to bring it into the 21st century. The problem with this country’s politics is the power machine that multi-term politicians are able to establish in Washington. The founding fathers never envisioned professional politicians who had never held a real job in their life, or rich kids who can afford to buy the presidency. Let’s get back to basics and let Mexico deal with its own problems and allow America to determine what its own immigration policies will be without a Hispanic uprising. This is not Mexico North, this is the United States of America. Get the Republican Congress to pass the DREAM ACT. Get the to pass cogent immigration reform without an amnesty. Secure our borders through law enforcement, not military intervention and the building of the American Berlin Wall. Move on America . . . Alfred E. Neumann for president in this world gone MAD.

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    I cannot believe that anyone is so misguided as to call The Republican candidate for President, a man with integrity. The Republican party for no better reason than to cripple Immigration reform voted against any and every immigration or immigrant benefit put before them. You blame the president for that? This charitable candidate, about whom you speak so highly, has made his donations, which you know are tax deductible, to religous organizations of which he is a member and to institutions of higher learning that are, again, schools that actively teach religion. Why does he not make his Income tax returns public? What's he got to hide?

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    This graph is incredibly disingenuous. The administration did not "promise" to grant deferred action to 1.4 million people. It promised to grant deferred action to individuals who satisfy the elements of the June 15 memo, which independent organizations have subsequently estimated to be as many as 1.4 million. If fewer people apply--or wait until after the November election to apply--it would hardly be fair to fault the Obama administration. And even if the 1.4 million estimate is correct, and all 1.4 million submit applications on August 15, it would take at least six months to process and approve them.

    I am all in favor of holding the administration accountable. But one cannot distort what the administration has promised and/or set expectations that are impossible to meet.
    Last edited by benwinograd; 07-26-2012 at 02:36 PM.

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    Correction nena77 --- the dream act of in 2007 was sponsored by Democrats but failed because only 10 Republicans voted for it. So there were not enough votes to break the filibuster. I hope no one listens to the statements you’re spewing without any shred of evidence!
    How can you help immigrants without even getting the basic facts straight?
    ILW, I hope this debate is not about dirty politics but about keeping this administration honest about promises made.

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    Brother_Hesekiel
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    Apparently, Nena flunked basic arithmetic and lacks common sense.

    To understand the President's executive order, it's important to understand the background and circumstances involved.

    There are an estimated 11,000,000 illegal aliens in the U.S., maybe millions more. Deporting a single one costs us, the American taxpayers, about $11,500 on average. Multiplied by 11 million that's $1,265,000,000,000,000.00. Yep. We don't have that kind of cash, not even a fraction of it; in fact, we are so deeply in debt that we maxed out all of our credit cards. That's why we just recently had the issue with raising the debt ceiling. The U.S. government came very close to declaring bankruptcy.

    Furthermore, if we deport about 400,000 illegal aliens per year, it would take us 27-1/2 years to deport all 11 million. We can't deport more, because that would cost money, more money for CBP and ICE agents, more money for judges, more money for detainment centers, and so on. But we don't have more money, and we, the American taxpayers don't want to pay more to deport more.
    So that's the background.

    With cash available to deport up to about 400,000 illegal aliens per year, all of them on credit, the President said to the immigration folks: listen, try to grab the criminals first, before you kick in the doors of school houses and drag children out, or even the little guy who works hard to support his family.
    That's the issue at hand: the biggest bang for our buck.

    He wants to deport 400,000 criminals per year, instead of 100,000 criminals and 300,000 children, while the 300,000 criminals he can’t deport can keep on doing their thing.

    At some end we have to realize that we can't deport them all. This end is the kids who were brought to the U.S. before age 16 to no fault of their own.

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    lualde
    Guest

    Excellent comments.

    Nena77 must be one of the Rommey's cronies, thus her enthusiast for this man. So, as interconlas said "take your chances" and with your vote try to bring more disgrace to this wonderful country




    Quote Originally Posted by inteconlaw View Post
    Oh, for Pete's sake ILW . . . STOP this unabashed politicizing of this issue. Nena77's comment has no substance other than to bash Obama . . . who is responsible for the present DREAM stop-gap measure? OBAMA! Cut him a little slack and stop turning this forum into a grandstand for Mitt Romney for president. So Nena77 . . . take your "chances" with the man who strapped his dog to the roof of his car. Take your "chances" with the political party that produced Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew, both of whom had to resign the offices of president and vice president, respectively, in disgrace. Take your "chances" with the political party that produced Ollie North and the Iran Contra affair. Take your "chances" with the political party that nominated Sara Palin as the vice presidential nominee. Take your "chances" with the political party that put George W. Bush into power for eight years, who took the USA from a budget surplus to a multi-trillion dollar deficit in the flash of an eye and embroiled us in two wars, Iraq and Afghanistan, neither of which has had any benefit to America. Yes, take your "chances" with the political party that now has Mitt Romney as its poster boy . . . the ultimate in greed, riches and lack of concern for the common man.
    Do you want to argue politics . . . . or do you want real immigration reform? I want real immigration reform and the only way to get it is to stop politicizing immigration and stop putting Amnesty riders on otherwise cogent changes the immigration system sorely needs to bring it into the 21st century. The problem with this country’s politics is the power machine that multi-term politicians are able to establish in Washington. The founding fathers never envisioned professional politicians who had never held a real job in their life, or rich kids who can afford to buy the presidency. Let’s get back to basics and let Mexico deal with its own problems and allow America to determine what its own immigration policies will be without a Hispanic uprising. This is not Mexico North, this is the United States of America. Get the Republican Congress to pass the DREAM ACT. Get the to pass cogent immigration reform without an amnesty. Secure our borders through law enforcement, not military intervention and the building of the American Berlin Wall. Move on America . . . Alfred E. Neumann for president in this world gone MAD.

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    lualde
    Guest
    Excellent comments by interconlaw. This nena77 must be one of the Rommey's cronies and thus her enthusiast for this man.

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