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Thread: More Than 500,000 Rally in L.A. for Immigrants' Rights

  1. #1
    Joining what some are calling the nation's largest mobilization of immigrants ever, hundreds of thousands of people boisterously marched in downtown Los Angeles Saturday to protest federal legislation that would crack down on undocumented immigrants, penalize those who help them and build a security wall on the U.S. southern border. Spirited crowds representing labor, religious groups, civil-rights advocates and ordinary immigrants stretched over 26 blocks of downtown Los Angeles from Adams Blvd. along Spring Street and Broadway to City Hall, tooting kazoos, waving American flags and chanting "Si se puede!" (Yes we can!). The crowd, estimated by police at more than 500.000, represented one of the largest protest marches in Los Angeles history, surpassing Vietnam War demonstrations and the 70,000 who rallied downtown against Proposition 187, a 1994 state initiative that denied public benefits to undocumented migrants.

    The marchers included both longtime residents and the newly arrived, bound by a desire for a better life and a love for this county.

    Arbelica Lazo, 40, illegally immigrated from El Salvador two decades ago but said she now owns two business and pays $7,000 in taxes annually.

    Jose Alberto Salvador, 33, came here illegally just four months ago to find work to support the wife and five children he left behind; in his native Guatemala, he said, what little work he could find paid only $10 a day. "As much as we need this country, we love this country," Salvador said, waving a stick with both the American and Guatemalan flag. "This country gives us opportunities we don't get at home."

    Saturday's rally, spurred by anger over legislation passed by the U.S. House of Representatives last December, was part of what many say is an unprecedented effort to organize immigrants and their supporters across the nation. The U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee is to take up efforts Monday to complete work on a comprehensive immigration reform proposal. Unlike the House bill, which beefed up border security and toughened immigration laws, the Senate committee's version is expected to include a guest worker program and a path to legalization for the nation's 10 to 12 million undocumented immigrants.

    In recent weeks, hundreds of thousands of people have staged demonstrations in more than a dozen cities. The Roman Catholic Church and other religious communities have launched immigrant rights campaigns, with Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony taking a leading role in speaking out against the House bill and calling on his priests to defy its provisions that would make felons of anyone who aided undocumented immigrants. In addition, several cities, including Los Angeles, have passed resolutions against the House legislation and some, such as Maywood, have declared itself a "sanctuary" for undocumented immigrants.

    "There has never been this kind of mobilization in the immigrant community ever," said Joshua Hoyt, executive director of the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights. "They have kicked the sleeping giant. It's the beginning of a massive immigrant civil rights struggle."

    One of the marchers Saturday, Jose Alberto Salvador, 33, left his wife and children behind in Guatemala four months ago to cross the border into the United States so he could earn enough money to return home and buy a house.

    Jorge Valdovinos, 43, is a legal immigrant from Mexico who has three US-born children and works as a financial advisor.

    Amid a sea of American and Mexican flags, protesters chanted "Si Se Puede!" and waved banners in Spanish that read, "We aren't criminals" and "The USA is made by immigrants."

    "I love this country as if it were my own, for the opportunities it has given me," said Laurentino Ramirez, an illegal immigrant from Mexico who works at a garment factory. "The law is unjust for those who don't have papers. We come to work. We don't come to do harm to anyone."

    Many of the marchers were immigrants themselves " both legal and illegal -- from Mexico and Central America. Some had just crossed the border, while others had been here for decades. There were construction workers and business owners; families with young children and people in wheelchairs. Throughout the afternoon, protesters heard speakers demand a path toward legalization and denounce HR 4437, which would tighten border enforcement and crack down on employers who hire undocumented workers.

    The rally was organized by numerous unions, religious organizations and immigrant rights groups and publicized through Spanish-language media, which encouraged participants to wear white to symbolize peace and bring American flags. The mostly peaceful march stretched over 26 blocks, shutting down streets and tying up traffic around downtown for hours. Police estimated the crowd at 500,000, more than five times the size of the 1994 rally against California's Proposition 187, which would have denied services to undocumented immigrants. Participants said the massive mobilization shows that immigrants' voices must be heard and that they are contributing to the country's economy.

  2. #2
    Joining what some are calling the nation's largest mobilization of immigrants ever, hundreds of thousands of people boisterously marched in downtown Los Angeles Saturday to protest federal legislation that would crack down on undocumented immigrants, penalize those who help them and build a security wall on the U.S. southern border. Spirited crowds representing labor, religious groups, civil-rights advocates and ordinary immigrants stretched over 26 blocks of downtown Los Angeles from Adams Blvd. along Spring Street and Broadway to City Hall, tooting kazoos, waving American flags and chanting "Si se puede!" (Yes we can!). The crowd, estimated by police at more than 500.000, represented one of the largest protest marches in Los Angeles history, surpassing Vietnam War demonstrations and the 70,000 who rallied downtown against Proposition 187, a 1994 state initiative that denied public benefits to undocumented migrants.

    The marchers included both longtime residents and the newly arrived, bound by a desire for a better life and a love for this county.

    Arbelica Lazo, 40, illegally immigrated from El Salvador two decades ago but said she now owns two business and pays $7,000 in taxes annually.

    Jose Alberto Salvador, 33, came here illegally just four months ago to find work to support the wife and five children he left behind; in his native Guatemala, he said, what little work he could find paid only $10 a day. "As much as we need this country, we love this country," Salvador said, waving a stick with both the American and Guatemalan flag. "This country gives us opportunities we don't get at home."

    Saturday's rally, spurred by anger over legislation passed by the U.S. House of Representatives last December, was part of what many say is an unprecedented effort to organize immigrants and their supporters across the nation. The U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee is to take up efforts Monday to complete work on a comprehensive immigration reform proposal. Unlike the House bill, which beefed up border security and toughened immigration laws, the Senate committee's version is expected to include a guest worker program and a path to legalization for the nation's 10 to 12 million undocumented immigrants.

    In recent weeks, hundreds of thousands of people have staged demonstrations in more than a dozen cities. The Roman Catholic Church and other religious communities have launched immigrant rights campaigns, with Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony taking a leading role in speaking out against the House bill and calling on his priests to defy its provisions that would make felons of anyone who aided undocumented immigrants. In addition, several cities, including Los Angeles, have passed resolutions against the House legislation and some, such as Maywood, have declared itself a "sanctuary" for undocumented immigrants.

    "There has never been this kind of mobilization in the immigrant community ever," said Joshua Hoyt, executive director of the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights. "They have kicked the sleeping giant. It's the beginning of a massive immigrant civil rights struggle."

    One of the marchers Saturday, Jose Alberto Salvador, 33, left his wife and children behind in Guatemala four months ago to cross the border into the United States so he could earn enough money to return home and buy a house.

    Jorge Valdovinos, 43, is a legal immigrant from Mexico who has three US-born children and works as a financial advisor.

    Amid a sea of American and Mexican flags, protesters chanted "Si Se Puede!" and waved banners in Spanish that read, "We aren't criminals" and "The USA is made by immigrants."

    "I love this country as if it were my own, for the opportunities it has given me," said Laurentino Ramirez, an illegal immigrant from Mexico who works at a garment factory. "The law is unjust for those who don't have papers. We come to work. We don't come to do harm to anyone."

    Many of the marchers were immigrants themselves " both legal and illegal -- from Mexico and Central America. Some had just crossed the border, while others had been here for decades. There were construction workers and business owners; families with young children and people in wheelchairs. Throughout the afternoon, protesters heard speakers demand a path toward legalization and denounce HR 4437, which would tighten border enforcement and crack down on employers who hire undocumented workers.

    The rally was organized by numerous unions, religious organizations and immigrant rights groups and publicized through Spanish-language media, which encouraged participants to wear white to symbolize peace and bring American flags. The mostly peaceful march stretched over 26 blocks, shutting down streets and tying up traffic around downtown for hours. Police estimated the crowd at 500,000, more than five times the size of the 1994 rally against California's Proposition 187, which would have denied services to undocumented immigrants. Participants said the massive mobilization shows that immigrants' voices must be heard and that they are contributing to the country's economy.

  3. #3
    one thing is for sure, there is no way an enforcement-only is passing this year or next year...After all those rallies, i doubt congress will have the gut to pass a bill that will felonized all those people...

    You are talking about the largest rallies in U.S history, this should count for somehing...Now , im not saying that pro immigration bill will past soon, but ill say enforcement-only bill has been defeated this week....

    this had gained huge media coverage all over the country, and the american public are just starting to notice that those people are fighting for the right to live, the right to make a living, and they are at war against evil human beings that are blood thisty to make their life miserable.

  4. #4
    Participants said the massive mobilization shows that immigrants' voices must be heard and that they are contributing to the country's economy.
    -----\
    He's dead on point, this large rally can not go unheard, even kyl is side stepping now and is willing to make compromises.


    The reason why enforcement-only, can not pass is because the minute-men can not reach enought american citizens to denounce comprehensive immigration bill...If they were enought minute-men rallying in the streets, then maybe enforcement-only would have a chance of passing, but they just dont have the numbers and the american people refuses to support bunches of angry, racists human beings.

  5. #5
    The Hidden Dangers of McKennedy:

    Why the Kennedy-McCain Amnesty Bill Will Destroy America

    1. Amnesty Legislation on a Massive, Historically Unprecedented Scale.

    If enacted, S.1033 would be amnesty legislation on a massive, historically unprecedented scale. 100 million Mexican immigrants would be admitted within the next 5 years!


    2. Since preferential eligibility for an immigrant visa is based on family ties to a citizen or legal permanent resident, the number of derivative relatives each immigrant alien cohort can sponsor increases geometrically, as most aliens sponsor the extended family members of both the alien and his spouse.

    In addition, if the waiting period required to admit a derivative relative is reducedthe rate of geometric increase speeds up, compressing or eliminating the time period of each immigrant "generation."

    Any increase or improvement in processing visa applications has a similar surge effect !

    S.1033 would both massively increase the numbers of aliens immediately eligible for permanent immigrant status, and significantly reduce the existing waiting time between applying for a visa in the home country and becoming a U.S. citizen, able to sponsor the widest range of derivative relatives!

    THIS IS HORRIBLE ! WE SHOULDN'T EVER LET IMMIGRANT FAMILIES GET UNITED IN US!
    WE SHALL ENCOURGAE THEM ALL OUT OF US !


    3. Elimination of Immediate Relatives from Family-Based Visa Cap

    With their new green cards, adjustment-phase beneficiaries would be able to begin sponsoring members of their extended families for immigrant visas. S.1033 Title VI provides for 60.000.000 increase in the numbers and kinds of derivative relatives of illegal aliens eligible to enter the U.S. as immigrants. Immediate relatives (spouses, minor children and parents) of US citizens and most parolees would be removed from counting against the ceiling for family-based immigrant visas, and the definition of immediate relatives, who are exempt from any visa limits, is expanded to include the children of children of children of children , children of spouses childrens nieces(, and children of grandparents siblings of U.S. citizens.

    These provisions would free up at least 20.000.000 new family preference immigrant visas per year, and could easily multiply X20 the number of admitted derivative relatives, to additional immigrants per year, supplemented by a pool of unused immigrant visa numbers from prior years. For example, a U.S. citizen will be able to sponsor for immediate entry, outside of any limits, all of the U.S. citizen's sibling's grandchildren, grandchildren of their uncle's and aunt's uncle's, spouses' grandchildren by prior marriage, etc. When those family-sponsored relatives arrive, as immediate permanent residents, they will be able to immediately apply to bring in additional family members, spouses, and children.

    THIS IS A NIGHTMARE ! ALL MEXICANS ARE RELATIVES IN 3-rd GENERATION ! IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THIS PASSED INTO LAW !

    PLEASE, ACT NOW !

    STOP THIS MADNESS, STOP THIS MCKENNEDY DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA !

  6. #6
    Americans of all races, political party, or what ever must take a firm stand against this illegal invasion. The Mexican Government should take care of its citizens. We the American tax payer should start suing illegal aliens, hospitals should sue the hell out of anyone, including illegals for not paying their bills, we need a National I.D Card to be used by U.S citizens, and another type of Gov. issued I.D for non U.S Citizens who are here LEGALLY on Work Visas ect. I hope and pray that H.R 4437 Pass. Build the wall!!!!!!! NOW!!!!! You have a baby in the U.S while illegal; you and your baby should be deported, Americans must demand that laws be changed, if you live in Public Housing while illegal; you should be getting a bill from the American tax payer! You own a home, car, even a Dog, I think it all should be taken, sold, and the money be spent to help build the Wall, and if illegal, deported. If you are illegal, and come back, the U.S Government should treat you like the Mexican Government treat its illegal immigrants; that's a topic that Mexico would not want see go public. The world watches as illegal aliens make a mockery of U.S laws, enemies to America watch as they see how easy it is to enter the U.S. Mexicans boast that they will take America BACK one Man at a time. Mexicans largely hire Mexican, they vote only for Latino candidates, Illegal Mexicans are the most selfish, and racist people, they do not hold an allegiance to America. They also vote in American elections illegally, when caught should be DEPORTED, We should demand that anyone voting in any election in the U.S. be a legal resident. The Federal Gov. should be investigating voter fraud, because it is happening. Some even go to the military, Mexico have a military no American Citizen have asked any illegal immigrant to join the U.S. Armed Forces. So stay the hell out of our military, if illegal; you need to be deported. I think that these demonstration are only making Americans more aware that we need to stand together.

  7. #7
    THIS IS A HORRIBLE INVASION !

    PLEASE, ACT NOW !

    STOP THIS MADNESS, STOP THIS MCKENNEDY DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA !

  8. #8
    LieMaster, Hurricane is here, you can not stop it now, after a years of exploitation poor illegal slaves. No more slavery ! Amnesty to all illegal slaves !!!

  9. #9
    No, your are blinded!
    Who are the slaves?
    I think WE are the exploited slaves, NOT illegals!
    Those illegals buy the most expensive houses in US that even upper middle class Americans can't afford!
    They buy those houses at 85% below market value - yes, there is special discount program for illegals and this is something you don't know about!
    How could slaves get that?
    There is special program that allows illegals ONLY to get that kind of deal, plus they get free 20% downpayment and lower interest rate on mortgages - lower than AAA credit score holder can dream of!
    And they get it all without Social Security, ID or Work Permit!
    Read about it here:

    http://discuss.ilw.com/eve/forums/a/.../m/18110202231

    It is time to WAKE UP !

    Look how much illegals cost to State of Florida!
    US$ 850 Billion!
    Multiply that by 50 - and you will figure how much illegals cost the US in one year!
    Everything is FREE for illegals: schools, medical care, housing - EVERYTHING!


    Read about costs of illegals here:

    http://discuss.ilw.com/eve/forums/a/.../m/30910102231

    THIS IS A NIGHTMARE !
    THIS IS A HORRIBLE INVASION !
    WE MUST STOP IT NOW !

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