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Thread: Speaking of Xenophobes & Nativists . . .

  1. #1
    Mexico's Immigration Law: Let's Try It Here at Home
    by J. Michael Waller


    Mexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven't been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill.

    That's too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

    At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it's noteworthy that nobody has argued that the U.S. look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solveCour illegal immigration problem. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:

    in the country legally;
    have the means to sustain themselves economically;

    not destined to be burdens on society;
    of economic and social benefit to society;
    of good character and have no criminal records; and contributors to the general well-being of the nation.

    The law also ensures that:

    immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;

    foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;

    foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country's internal politics;

    foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;

    foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
    those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.

    Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens -- and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, legal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or
    General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country's immigration policy.

    It is an interesting law -- and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a
    crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

    If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.


    We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. [1] Now let's look at Mexico's main immigration law.

    Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

    Foreigners are admitted into Mexico "according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress." (Article 32)

    ******Immigration officials must "ensure" that "immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents. (Article 34)

    *******Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics," when foreigners are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when "they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy." (Article 37)

    ******The Secretary of Governance may "suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest." (Article 38)


    *****Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

    ******Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)

    A National Population Registry keeps track of "every single individual who comprises the population of the country," and verifies each individual's identity. (Articles 85 and 86)

    ******A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

    ******Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

    (Article 116)

    Foreigners who sign government documents "with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses" are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)
    Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

    Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)

    *******Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)

    Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico -- such as working with out a permit -- can also be imprisoned.

    Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,

    "A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally." (Article 123)

    Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)

    Foreigners who "attempt against national sovereignty or security" will be deported. (Article 126)
    Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:


    **********A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)

    Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)

    All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States. The stark contrast between Mexico's immigration practices versus its American
    immigration preachings is telling. It gives a clear picture of the Mexican government's agenda: to have a one-way immigration relationship with the United States.

    Let's call Mexico's bluff on its unwarranted interference in U.S. immigration policy. Let's propose, just to make a point, that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico's own law as a model.


    This article was first posted at CenterforSecurityPolicy.org.
    Wolves Travel In Packs
    ____________________

  2. #2
    Mexico's Immigration Law: Let's Try It Here at Home
    by J. Michael Waller


    Mexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven't been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill.

    That's too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

    At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it's noteworthy that nobody has argued that the U.S. look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solveCour illegal immigration problem. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:

    in the country legally;
    have the means to sustain themselves economically;

    not destined to be burdens on society;
    of economic and social benefit to society;
    of good character and have no criminal records; and contributors to the general well-being of the nation.

    The law also ensures that:

    immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;

    foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;

    foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country's internal politics;

    foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;

    foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
    those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.

    Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens -- and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, legal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or
    General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country's immigration policy.

    It is an interesting law -- and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a
    crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

    If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.


    We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. [1] Now let's look at Mexico's main immigration law.

    Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

    Foreigners are admitted into Mexico "according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress." (Article 32)

    ******Immigration officials must "ensure" that "immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents. (Article 34)

    *******Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics," when foreigners are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when "they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy." (Article 37)

    ******The Secretary of Governance may "suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest." (Article 38)


    *****Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

    ******Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)

    A National Population Registry keeps track of "every single individual who comprises the population of the country," and verifies each individual's identity. (Articles 85 and 86)

    ******A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

    ******Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

    (Article 116)

    Foreigners who sign government documents "with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses" are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)
    Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

    Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)

    *******Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)

    Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico -- such as working with out a permit -- can also be imprisoned.

    Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,

    "A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally." (Article 123)

    Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)

    Foreigners who "attempt against national sovereignty or security" will be deported. (Article 126)
    Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:


    **********A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)

    Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)

    All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States. The stark contrast between Mexico's immigration practices versus its American
    immigration preachings is telling. It gives a clear picture of the Mexican government's agenda: to have a one-way immigration relationship with the United States.

    Let's call Mexico's bluff on its unwarranted interference in U.S. immigration policy. Let's propose, just to make a point, that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico's own law as a model.


    This article was first posted at CenterforSecurityPolicy.org.
    Wolves Travel In Packs
    ____________________

  3. #3
    22 Countries have Joined to Rebuke U.S. Immigration Policies " But does the U.S. Care?
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    It is safe to say that the United States was a bit distracted the first weekend of November. There was so much focus on the November 7 elections that, as usual, the rest of the world, aside from Iraq, mattered little to the majority of us.

    Otherwise, we would have paid more attention to the 16th annual Ibero-American Summit that took place in Montevideo, Uruguay.

    As much as this election focused on immigration policy, at least in the minds of Republican politicians, so it was the topic of debate at the summit.

    Yet, hardly any of us knew it.


    Heads of state attend the sixteenth annual 22-nation IberoAmerican Summit
    (Source: Cumbre Ibero-Americana)

    Over three days, the leaders of: Argentina, Bolivia, Brasil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, México, Nicaragua, Panamá, Perú, Paraguay, Portugal, Principado de Andorra, República Dominicana, Spain, Uruguay y Venezuela, met and talked about immigration policy " basically U.S. immigration policy.

    It seems our South American neighbors and European friends, who belong to the summit delegation, don't like the direction of our immigration policies.

    They dislike the policies so much that all of them signed a resolution that has become known as the "Commitment of Montevideo."

    "We believe the construction of walls does not stop undocumented immigration," said the resolution, adding that new border barriers lead to migrant-smuggling rings while harming "spirit of understanding" between neighboring countries.

    It would be easy to dismiss this summit as just a U.S. bashing bash against our policies " if it weren't for something significant that happened at the summit:

    "This the first time in the history of the Iberoamerican community that a joint declaration has been reached on immigration," said Enrique Iglesias, head of the summit's general secretariat, during the closing session that included Spain's King Juan Carlos and leaders or envoys of Portugal, Andorra and 19 Latin American nations.


    "I believe immigration is the great issue of the century," Iglesias said, adding that the accord "will be the point of reference for ongoing dialogue of the 22 countries."

    The significance of 22 nations making their feelings known about how much they dislike our policies is something not to be ignored - after all, our economic existence is as much intertwined with their survival as their's is with ours.

    Yet, hardly any publicity of the summit was brought to the attention of the American public.

    It's as if the scenario in the Middle East is happening all over again, when we scratched our heads and asked in ignorant innocence in the aftermath of 9/11 " when did the Muslim world start to hate us?

    This may well be the beginning of the end in South and Latin America of tolerance of U.S. policy practices.

    As proof that there is sound reason for the leaders of Latin and South America to be fed up with our policies, an unlikely column appeared today that outlined the evolution of global opinion turning against the United States.

    What's so unlikely about the column is that it's not written by an activist or a blogger or even an opinion writer on foreign policy issues. It's written by someone accustomed to logically evaluating financial markets " financial columnist Malcolm Berko.

    Without being defensive or in favor of a particular cause, Berko's column outlines the cold, hard facts.

    It's up to us to either see them for what they are, or risk scratching our heads and being the only ones clueless as to why our global neighbors don't like us all that much.


    Malcolm Berko


    Financial pressures lead others to hate U.S.
    Wolves Travel In Packs
    ____________________

  4. #4
    Another Opinion

    A commentary on politics and current events for those who like to think for themselves

    About Me

    Paul Hosse
    A veteran community and political activist. Former candidate. Navy veteran & DAV member. Past State Chairperson of National Writers Union of Kentucky (UAW-1981/AFL-CIO) Amateur historian, writer and book reviewer. Monday, November 19, 2007

    Illegal Immigration Mexican Style

    I think everyone knows my position on illegal immigration. In case you don't, let me enlighten you. Illegal immigrants should be removed immediately from the US, but before they're deported, immigration officials should do an **** DNA swipe. Illegals should be notified in Spanish, both verbally and in writing, that their DNA will be stored in the government's national database. If they're caught a second time, they will go to jail, and then deported. Employers will be heavily fined the first time; fined and jailed the second time. No exceptions. Illegal aliens should not be entitled to any taxpayer based service, even if they're "paying" into the system using a false or stolen SSN. If they want come here, that's great; just do it on a green card. On a related topic, we speak English here. Learn it. Use it. Or leave.

    Mexico's former President, Vincente Fox, has repeatedly said the United States had "no right" to secure its border. America was acting "medieval" and "inhumanely" by proposing a fence along the border, while at the same time encouraging Mexicans to sneak into the country. Some Hispanic groups have openly proposed a program of "reconquista" or reconquest to create a so called "Republic of North" comprising of New Mexico, Arizona, California, Texas, and Colorado through various political groups like "La Raza" and the Azlan Movement. With over 80% of Americans demanding a secured southern border, the federal government continues to do nothing. Why? Under NAFTA, Mexican drivers will be allowed unimpeded access to US highways in vehicles of questionable safety. Why? Is this why some politicians want to issue illegals a driver's license? Sure would make access to and from Mexico easy. Very little federal effort or money has in fact been put into place to secure our border with Mexico. The burden has fallen largely on poorly equipped, staffed, and funded local police officers along key border areas. Even our US border patrol and few military personnel stationed along key crossing sites aren't allowed to engage illegals. They can only "observe, withdraw, and report". Again, why?
    Wolves Travel In Packs
    ____________________

  5. #5
    By John W. Lillpop

    Startling new information secured by Judicial Watch documents the fact that Mexican military and other officials have staged 29 incursions into America over the past 12 months.

    FOXNEWS: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,321547,00.html

    In 17 of the incursions, the Mexicans were armed.

    Can you imagine? An armed invasion of these great United States without so much as a whimper or complaint from the dunderheads charged with defending our nation?


    In fact, George W. Bush is so concerned that he has retreated to the middle east on a "peace mission."

    Dubya on a peace mission?

    That's akin to having Nancy Pelosi address the NRA in order to rally support for the second amendment. Or Harry Reid touring Iraq to assure U.S. ground troops that America is winning the war.

    But perhaps the American people are actually better off with Dubya consigned to the most dangerous region in the world? At least while he is abroad, Duyba is not doing more "lame duck" damage here at home while on a scavenger hunt for a legacy.

    And who knows, maybe Dubya can actually bring peace to Israel by convincing Prime Minister Ehud Olmert into adopting an "open borders" policy that will allow millions of suicide bombers to invade Israel, to do work (blow up buses, shops, etc.) that persnickety Jews will simply not do?

    A middle east version of his idiotic "Mexicanization" policy that has worked so well in Americaif you happen to be an official of the Mexican government looking to dump 38 million illiterate peasants on the backs of U.S. taxpayers, that is?

    With just slightly more than 365 days left for the "Worst President" in history to achieve a respectable legacy, Dubya will have to do something spectacular and dramatic should his peace mission fail.

    Here's food for thought for the Dubyamester: Why not invade Mexico, take over the oil fields, imprison all of their corrupt elitist billionaires and politicians, and hand out their treasury to the 38 million criminals who have invaded America?

    With the caveat that in order to claim the booty, every illegal alien must be embedded with a tracking chip and return to Mexico forever, with no right of return or visit.

    Dubya could even skim oil profits off the top and send said profits to the U.S. treasury for distribution to rich and powerful Americans desperately in need of more tax cuts.

    How do you say win-win in Spanish?
    Wolves Travel In Packs
    ____________________

  6. #6
    Mexican Military/Police Incursion into the US

    http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DEEDEX1
    Wolves Travel In Packs
    ____________________

  7. #7
    Someone12
    Guest
    Beverly: you are my heroine (please note the 'e' on the end of this word) --
    Mexcio apparently has more strict 'rules' about immigration then we do ( of course, like most rules and laws in Mexico, there is 'selective enforcement' [coupled with bribes])...
    We, the United States of America (not the Dysfunctional States of Mexico nor the Cabbage States of Poland) should stand fast to protect that which we (as a nation) have fought for and earned...and not give it away to anyone who staggers across our borders or scams a visa.....those individuals need to be tossed out of our country (the nation of laws) on their sorry behinds and not welcomed back...forever.....who needs 'em? (well, maybe the cows at immigrate2us.feedmebonsbonsand frenchfries.lard) really....would the US of A be any worse if we barred each and every one of these border jumpers and visa cheats? If any of you answered 'yes'...please....justify your answer....otherwise....the answer is 'no'...
    thanks again Bev (if I may call you that, out of endearment)..

  8. #8
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Someone12:
    Beverly: you are my heroine (please note the 'e' on the end of this word) --
    Mexcio apparently has more strict 'rules' about immigration then we do ( of course, like most rules and laws in Mexico, there is 'selective enforcement' [coupled with bribes])...
    We, the United States of America (not the Dysfunctional States of Mexico nor the Cabbage States of Poland) should stand fast to protect that which we (as a nation) have fought for and earned...and not give it away to anyone who staggers across our borders or scams a visa.....those individuals need to be tossed out of our country (the nation of laws) on their sorry behinds and not welcomed back...forever.....who needs 'em? (well, maybe the cows at immigrate2us.feedmebonsbonsand frenchfries.lard) really....would the US of A be any worse if we barred each and every one of these border jumpers and visa cheats? If any of you answered 'yes'...please....justify your answer....otherwise....the answer is 'no'...
    </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Someone 12 ITA with all that you have said. You are a true American patriot. I've been meaning to thank you for all the laughter you provide. Your sense of humor is comedic gold.

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">thanks again Bev (if I may call you that, out of endearment).. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Please do. Take care!
    Wolves Travel In Packs
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  9. #9
    you should be very grateful of being not only out of the slavery but also out of the zoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hahahahahahah

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