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    I'm not some progressive nutjob, as you well know, but this question raises the whole issue in some very simplistic kida way, don't you think?

    Some Dems believe no war is ever worth the sacrifice, and I will never agree with that position, specially when the security of the country is directly compromised, but this war in Iraq stopped being about security a long time ago. I wish I could tell you what it's about but I don't have a clue, and I don't believe American soldiers should die for some unknown cause.

    Soldiers sign up for the military to protect the United States, either here or abroad, to fight a noble cause, not to pursue some political objective or the agenda of the Republicans or the Democrats. A soldier's life is way more important than any election or political ambition!

    The U.S. Military is not some third world militia composed of mercenaries and guns for hire. Pride, principle and honor are actually an integral part of every single soldier who wears the American flag, and that's something to be proud of.

    I do respect and support the military. I have many military friends and family in the USMC, and it's that respect that makes me also value their lives as precious and significant.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
    Here is a question for the lefties. You preach against the war, about bringing our troops home, and they need to be with their families. Did it ever occur to you what their job is?

    They are not the walmart greeter. The military functions as a means of force. Everyone who joined knew that. Unlike most countries they joined of their own free will. Their job is not to question their superiors or the policy. It functions as a means to that political end.

    For anyone who does not support our military efforts you also do not support the soldier or his mission. You disrespect their choices in life and the freedoms that allowed that choice to begin with. And most of all you spit on the freedoms that you have the soldier is fighting for. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Davdah

    this is the b ull c rap that GWB jr tried to sell the american people. "If you dont support your troops , you are un-american" even if you dont agree with the war" .


    GWB used psychology into making you feel guilty about being unpatriotic. You and millions of other fell 4that hook , line and sinker.


    If one does not support the war, then that is the end of it period.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Here is a question for the lefties. You preach against the war, about bringing our troops home, and they need to be with their families. Did it ever occur to you what their job is? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Not definitely to protect Iraq!
    and why us???

    As their fellow american, it is painful
    to see your own die for some political agenda!

    We have our own borders, sea port, airports,to protect.

    Leave Iraq alone!

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">For anyone who does not support our military efforts you also do not support the soldier or his mission. You disrespect their choices in life and the freedoms that allowed that choice to begin with. And most of all you spit on the freedoms that you have the soldier is fighting for. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I support our troops 100% and have the utmost respect for them. More often than not, I have respected and supported the military endeavors with which this country has been involved. However, I can no longer support a war without end. We continue to lose American lives in Iraq for what purpose? We will never, ever resolve the turmoil which exists between the various religious sectors in Iraq. Why continue to spend money and spill blood over a war that we cannot win? Didn't we learn something from Vietnam?

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    BTW Davdah


    This is not a question for Dems as you state or lefties.

    The people that feel this way about the war are common to both sides of the fence. It is an individual and personal opinion.. not a group mentality.

    The Brainwashing of these young troops into thinking that what they are doing is righteous is disgusting. Just for their cause. The ones doing it are abominable. "Make the lie real" mentality. Tell the lie enough times and you will believe it yourself. Very sad

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">This is not a question for Dems as you state or lefties. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Very true, 4Now. I happen to be righthanded - lol!

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    I'm blue-collar, red-blooded, but wear a black hat... So that makes me neutral! lmao

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    I agree with what the others have written Davdah. I myself have nothing but respect and admiration for military forces, US or otherwise. In UK I worked about as close as you can be with the military whilst not signing on the dotted line to be in it.

    Iraq has become a joke. It never was about National Security. Al Queda were not in Iraq until the US invaded. We created our own war there. Now we are trying to police a civil war which will be impossible to win. Finally, Bush and Co are realizing we can't stay there forever. The Iraqi's themselves don't want the US forces there anymore. That's pretty obvious. So what are we doing there? How do you define victory in a civil war?

    As Proudie said, we haven't learn't anything from past mistakes. If you look into how the Korean war got started, there are some similarities with Iraq, namely we backed the wrong guy.
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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