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Thread: 60 Minutes program

  1. #1
    They did a segment tonight on what happens when a US Citizen dies while their spouse is waiting for AOS interview:

    60 Minutes program
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

  2. #2
    They did a segment tonight on what happens when a US Citizen dies while their spouse is waiting for AOS interview:

    60 Minutes program
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

  3. #3
    Interesting documentary Brittie. I have heard these stories before about widows, such a shame.
    I remember there were many cases like these after 9/11 and women who were here for many years because of their husbands working here..but lost their residency soon after.

    I wish there wasn't those viagra commercials in that video though lol
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  4. #4
    Such a shame that immigrant widows of USC are treated in such a way. Has immigration services lost all of it's soul?

  5. #5
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by max-one:
    Such a shame that immigrant widows of USC are treated in such a way. Has immigration services lost all of it's soul? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
    The only option is the I-360 for Widow(er). The surviving spouse would have to be married for at least 2 years, among other conditions. But then you have the other problem from anti-immigrant groups or its members such as:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The other side of the widow story:
    How to Become a U.S. citzen:
    1. If you''re a pretty woman, find some guy who is a u.s. citizen and throw yourself at him.
    2. Make apparent to friends/family how in love and happy you are.
    3. Arrange for death of spouse
    4. Congratulations, now you are U.S. citizen.

    Posted by subject931 at 04:10 AM : Nov 24, 2008 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    The above opinion posted by subject931 shows the true problem. With unwavering suspicion, even on the most innocent of circumstances.

    BTW: USCIS, like any other government agency does not make up the rules, just administers the rules as written on the books. In some cases, such as the 60 minute interview, it does not look pretty from the outside looking in.
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

  6. #6
    Agreed. Hudson's right, it's old law which hasn't been updated to allow for changing circumstances. I believe most of the INA was made during the 1950s when it took maybe a few weeks if that for an interview date. They just didn't think of it taking a year or more back then. An area ripe for CIR I hope.

    My mom once met such a victim on a flight over here. Apparently her USC hubby died while waiting for the interview and she was told by many lawyers the petition dies with him. She got lucky and was able to do AOS based on another immigration category.

    I thought Chertoff's reply was somewhat vague and evasive. Maybe he needs some help from those little blue pills
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

  7. #7
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brit4064:
    Agreed. Hudson's right, it's old law which hasn't been updated to allow for changing circumstances. I believe most of the INA was made during the 1950s when it took maybe a few weeks if that for an interview date. They just didn't think of it taking a year or more back then. An area ripe for CIR I hope.

    My mom once met such a victim on a flight over here. Apparently her USC hubby died while waiting for the interview and she was told by many lawyers the petition dies with him. She got lucky and was able to do AOS based on another immigration category.

    I thought Chertoff's reply was somewhat vague and evasive. Maybe he needs some help from those little blue pills </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
    chertoff's reply was a classic government reply Brit. He probably did not know the specifics of the case, but at the same time, could not give anything firm because of the litigation. Thus, the appearance may looked evasive, but in reality, ti was answering the question without putting his foot in his mouth.

    I assisted an immigrant whose husband passed away. She petitioned the I-360 and got her green card. However, it was some of the family members, specifically the children from the previous marriage and the ex wife that tried to get her deported. The ex even suggested she caused the death even though it was Legionnaire's disease contracted while in Italy.
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

  8. #8
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
    What about the first part of that video? The African nuclear reactor being broken into and bomb making material nearly acquired by a band of 8 or so thieves. That should be a little more concerning that some welfare mom having to move. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    My thoughts exactly !!! These people do not care about America. All they care about is getting a green card and scamming for money. They could care less about America. Which is why we don't want them here. They just don't get it.

  9. #9
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
    What about the first part of that video? The African nuclear reactor being broken into and bomb making material nearly acquired by a band of 8 or so thieves. That should be a little more concerning that some welfare mom having to move. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
    Davdah,
    The South African incident is serious. No one is debating that. However, the incident occurred in South Africa which the government has decided to bury the embarrassing incident. And there is nothing the U.S. nor any other country can do something about it except offer training to the security personnel.

    However, the widowers, which the investigative report concentrated on, are not welfare mothers, but surviving spouses who, through an unfortunate set of circumstances, have been involved in an immigration nightmare not of their own making. And with the first widower, the in-laws have been very gracious to their grandson and to the daughter-in-law. The others did not go that far with the supporting family members. Again, finally, all came the LEGAL WAY are attempting to get approval in the LEGAL WAY.
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

  10. #10
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I assisted an immigrant whose husband passed away. She petitioned the I-360 and got her green card. However, it was some of the family members, specifically the children from the previous marriage and the ex wife that tried to get her deported. The ex even suggested she caused the death even though it was Legionnaire's disease contracted while in Italy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


    The women was from Italy, strange coincidence eh? How much life insurance was there? Details, details. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



    Excellent; AGAIN - My thoughts exactly !! These people stop at nothing ! My ex-fraudster tried to blow up my house and kill me ! These people stop at nothing !

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