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    But the crime is true either way. How about where possessive cases are intended but the apostrophes are missing as in Vons, Ralphs, or Albertsons? Or in sentences like 'Your wrong.' or 'Its correct.' or 'Mines better.'? Anyway...

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by iperson:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rough Neighbor:
    But the crime is true either way. How about where possessive cases are intended but the apostrophes are missing as in Vons, Ralphs, or Albertsons? Or in sentences like 'Your wrong.' or 'Its correct.' or 'Mines better.'? Anyway... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Those are all ACW crimes too. Arrest them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Don't you be arresting my hun RN. I might have to whip you really bad
    If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans

    Democrats - Brave enough to KILL our unborn, just NOT our ENEMIES!

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">First arrest- Brit, a regular poster of ilw. The proof of the crime is found in this thread title. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


    <span class="ev_code_RED">Well it looks like Brit was ok after all folks. Just doing what his countrymen uphold.</span>

    British City Gets Rid of Apostrophes

    By MEERA SELVA, AP

    (Jan. 31)

    - On the streets of Birmingham, the queen's English is now the queens English.
    England's second-largest city has decided to drop apostrophes from all its street signs, saying they're confusing and old-fashioned.



    But some purists are downright possessive about the punctuation mark.
    It seems that Birmingham officials have been taking a hammer to grammar for years, quietly dropping apostrophes from street signs since the 1950s. Through the decades, residents have frequently launched spirited campaigns to restore the missing punctuation to signs denoting such places as "St. Pauls Square" or "Acocks Green."
    This week, the council made it official, saying it was banning the punctuation mark from signs in a bid to end the dispute once and for all.
    Councilor Martin Mullaney, who heads the city's transport scrutiny committee, said he decided to act after yet another interminable debate into whether "Kings Heath," a Birmingham suburb, should be rewritten with an apostrophe.
    "I had to make a final decision on this," he said Friday. "We keep debating apostrophes in meetings and we have other things to do."
    Mullaney hopes to stop public campaigns to restore the apostrophe that would tell passers-by that "Kings Heath" was once owned by the monarchy.
    "Apostrophes denote possessions that are no longer accurate, and are not needed," he said. "More importantly, they confuse people. If I want to go to a restaurant, I don't want to have an A-level (high school diploma) in English to find it."
    But grammarians say apostrophes enrich the English language.
    "They are such sweet-looking things that play a crucial role in the English language," said Marie Clair of the Plain English Society, which campaigns for the use of simple English. "It's always worth taking the effort to understand them, instead of ignoring them."
    Mullaney claimed apostrophes confuse GPS units, including those used by emergency services. But Jenny Hodge, a spokeswoman for satellite navigation equipment manufacturer TomTom, said most users of their systems navigate through Britain's sometime confusing streets by entering a postal code rather than a street address.
    She said that if someone preferred to use a street name with or without an apostrophe punctuation wouldn't be an issue. By the time the first few letters of the street were entered, a list of matching choices would pop up and the user would choose the destination.
    A test by The Associated Press backed this up. In a search for London street St. Mary's Road, the name popped up before the apostrophe had to be entered.
    There is no national body responsible for regulating place names in Britain. Its main mapping agency, Ordnance Survey, which provides data for emergency services, takes its information from local governments and each one is free to decide how it uses punctuation.
    "If councils decide to add or drop an apostrophe to a place name, we just update our data," said Ordnance Survey spokesman Paul Beauchamp. "We've never heard of any confusion arising from their existence."
    To sticklers, a missing or misplaced apostrophe can be a major offense.
    British grammarians have railed for decades against storekeepers' signs advertising the sale of "apple's and pear's," or pubs offering "chip's and pea's."
    In her best-selling book "Eats, Shoots and Leaves," Lynne Truss recorded her fury at the title of the Hugh Grant-Sandra Bullock comedy "Two Weeks Notice," insisting it should be "Two Weeks' Notice."
    "Those spineless types who talk about abolishing the apostrophe are missing the point, and the pun is very much intended," she wrote

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">"Those spineless types who talk about abolishing the apostrophe are missing the point, and the pun is very much intended," </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Hmmm, she must have been thinking of a certain poster in here

    That's how I was taught it in school. If it's possessive, it should have an 's after it. Might be old fashioned but it's still legit.
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brit4064:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">"Those spineless types who talk about abolishing the apostrophe are missing the point, and the pun is very much intended," </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Hmmm, she must have been thinking of a certain poster in here

    That's how I was taught it in school. If it's possessive, it should have an 's after it. Might be old fashioned but it's still legit. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    . . . unless it is a plural possessive in which case the apostrophe goes after the s.

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